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RUSH: Paul in San Antonio. Great to have you, sir. Thank you for waiting. Hello.

CALLER: Good afternoon, Rush. I am a conservative who just happens to be black. And I wanted to personally thank you for your commentary, but more so than your commentary, I wanted to thank you for the information you provide with it, because that’s what ties everything together.

RUSH: Thank you. I appreciate that, sir, very much.

CALLER: I wanted to give you a brief explanation of how I came upon this journey of being conservative, especially coming from the black community. As you would say, at 17 I was a young skull full of mush. I was beaten over the head and terrified that if I didn’t vote for Jimmy Carter in my first election we were basically gonna go back to slavery. Well, I did notice that after he was elected it got worse, not necessarily for black America, but just for America in general. So I chalked that one up.

Then Reagan came along, and I really heard, we were about to get lynched, we were about to basically go back to slavery. And that didn’t happen. And I noticed that America actually got a little bit better overall. I’m like, okay, what’s going on? I’m the kind of person that needs to know why. So your show came along. And at the time I heard somebody talking about how you were racist. So, much like the Mueller investigation, I embarked upon a journey to find out, to see what was going on.

So after 20 years, just like the Mueller investigation, I finally had to close the investigation down after finding out that you have not colluded with or have ever been a racist. And just like the Mueller investigation, people are not happy with it, and they’re still spreading the propaganda that you must have somehow been this way and there’s no way to disprove it. So after 20 years of investigation, you’ve been cleared, and I just wanted to personally let you know that.

RUSH: I love this! I love this analogy! You conducted a 20-year investigation which required frequent, constant listening —


RUSH: — to try to root out and detect any of the racism that you heard — there’s Crazy Bernie, look at that bandage! Anyway. You sought this investigation and 20 years, and you’re just now on the verge of closing it without finding any evidence of racism here on this program or by me.

CALLER: And the people who wanted me to initiate the investigation are not happy and they’re still determined to say that you’re racist, just like the Mueller investigation. No matter what you do, you must be racist. Which leads me to my final point if I could make it.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: You’ve often asked in the black community why it is black America, though they have mainly conservative values, totally rejects conservatism and conservatives for the most part. And I think I have the answer to that.

RUSH: What is it?

CALLER: If you’re in the black community — and most blacks do practice conservatism, anti-abortion, free speech, gun rights — but to embrace conservative ideology and those who represent it well, you would in fact have to dismiss all that you have been taught and admit that those who taught you were wrong in what they presented to you, which would be much akin to having a father that you thought was the greatest person in the world and then realizing he was either a criminal or a bad person. It’s hard to reconcile —

RUSH: Yeah. (crosstalk)

CALLER: — from somebody that you trust.

RUSH: It’s an excellent point. Can you walk me through something?


RUSH: You’ve heard during the Reagan years how bad it was gonna be, bad it was gonna get, going back to slavery, whatever else they said, and you’re sitting around and you’re watching the country actually get better. You’re watching the economy grow, you’re watching people get jobs or getting raises. But you had expected the country to go in the tank and maybe even get worse for people.

I’m gonna have to hold you over for the break to get the answer here so I want you to think about it, but I want you to take me back. Because this is part of your transformation. You fully expected the Reagan years to be bad for African-Americans and for you. At least you were told that was gonna be the case.

CALLER: I was terrified.

RUSH: When they happen and everything’s going in the opposite direction, I want to know how you felt and what you thought about while this was happening to you.


RUSH: Let me go back here to Paul in San Antonio. Okay. So you are sitting out there, and you’re fully expecting the country to go spiraling down. You’ve been told that Reagan is gonna bring back slavery and racism and the exact opposite happened. So while that’s happening, while America’s getting better all around you, what are you thinking?

CALLER: Well, Rush, I’m the type of person, I gotta know why. So I’m always in search of facts or something to prove or disprove. And one of the theories that I have is, in this situation, minus the absence of information, it makes it easier to control people with emotion. So since I was in search of facts, I was starting to get out of the emotional tie that I had to what I was being taught. Because every time I would listen to you, and I started looking for other sources and I’m like, okay, I’m hearing this mostly in my community and in this segment of the media, but in reality, as they used to say, here’s the rest of the story. And the rest of the story is usually where all the important information was.

RUSH: Now, wait a minute. Hold on. Now, that’s key. Because it wasn’t just me telling people what I thought. What you heard me also offer was backup information or facts that were what they were regardless what I thought?

CALLER: That’s it. That is what got it.

RUSH: So you were able to rely on not just my opinion. You were able to tell, no, I’m not just telling you what he thinks, and you were able to relay information that you heard backing all that up?

CALLER: Rush, you’re kind of like a treasure map. You’re not actually digging up the treasure, but you gave me clues as to where to find the treasure. And the treasure would be the truth.

RUSH: You are filled with great analogies. So you had a 20-year investigation to try to find the racism on the program, you couldn’t, and then you discovered this program is a treasure map to the truth!

CALLER: (laughing) And it also led me to my three P’s, which I think are important and I try to relate this to people that I talk to, and that is always vote policy over party or personality. Because party and personality are two things that vary with the wind. Policy, out of all of them, that’s usually what’s gonna stay in effect and change your life over a longer period of time. And it’s hard to get people to see that because they get so invested into a personality and/or a party, both of which can let you down. A policy is what it is. It states this and it’s supposed to do this, and, yeah, sometimes it’s subverted and used in the wrong way, but overall it’s the safest way to make the right decision.

RUSH: Right. ‘Cause if you find out what a person’s policy really is, you’ll find out who they are, not by virtue of what they say or how they say it. Look at their policy. It’s like an identity. It can’t be denied.

CALLER: And one last thing, Rush, I just want to thank you again because with the tools that I’ve — with my journey, I’ve been able, I’ve been invited to — because I’m the lone conservative most of the time.

So when somebody needs an opposing view, I’m usually the one. And I had all three elements of what you usually fight against at one local event not too long ago. I had an auditorium full of college students, I had an NAACP president, and I had two local activists and I was the lone conservative up there. (laughing)

RUSH: Let me tell you something, Paul. I know how you feel. You know this annual cigar dinner that I go to every April that’s put on by Cigar Aficionado? It’s a fundraiser event for prostate cancer, and it’s in Manhattan. Of course, we can’t do it anymore because this idiot de Blasio will not even grant a two-hour exemption to smoke cigars at the restaurant. So raising money for prostate cancer’s no longer possible.

But I for the first 10 to 12 years was the only conservative that showed up at these things. Jeff Greenfield would get up and make his remarks and make snide, snarky comments about things that I hadn’t even said that night that I might believe or not belive. I know what it feels like to be outnumbered, especially by a bunch of arrogant, condescending people who think they know everything.

CALLER: Can I tell you one last thing? I did use one of your ploys at the end of the meeting. One of the college students got up, I had said that there was no such thing as systemic racism at this time, and they jumped up and there was a line of people to ask me about this, “Well, how can you say that?”

I said, “If there’s systemic racism, that means everybody’s involved. So if everybody’s involved, what makes you think that you protesting against your oppressors and telling them to stop oppressing you is gonna work?” And she couldn’t answer that. I was like, that makes no sense. I said, “Think about it. All the cities that you’re talking about, these shootings and the police, are happening in, the same people that say they’re on your side, which would be the Democrats, are also the ones that run these cities, which makes them run those police departments. So how much sense does your argument make?”

RUSH: Well, you know what you’re running up against? You’re running up basically against robots. I mean, they’re programmed from birth to believe and say certain things that they can’t possibly explain. You can expose ’em with your simple question. “If it’s systemic, it’s everybody, and isn’t everybody, so what are you talking about?” And you’ve got ’em. They don’t know how to answer you at that point.

CALLER: Yeah, they were taught what to think, not how to think, and that’s what I try to do whenever I get a chance. And I’ve learned not to get frustrated just like you say. Because if I took it personally that people don’t get it, I would wiped in a nuthouse. I really would. So I just have to make my point and keep it moving. And again, I credit a lot of that with you because I listen all the time, and even though you don’t tell me what to think, you lay out that road map and it’s helped me a lot.

RUSH: Treasure map, treasure map.

CALLER: Road map, treasure map, as long as I get there.

RUSH: Treasure map. Treasure map. I’m stealing that one. By the way, I’m not gonna steal it. I want to offer you, ’cause I am gonna take that. You’re gonna hear me say, “Treasure map to the truth.” And it’s from you. So I want to compensate you here so what I’m gonna do, are you a member of my website?

CALLER: Yes, I am.

RUSH: Okay. Well, then I’m still gonna comp you. I’m gonna make you a lifetime member, okay?

CALLER: Well, thank you.

RUSH: Now, you gotta hang on. We need to get your vitals here so we can make the tech arrangements for that to happen. And do you expect to need, or would you like, a new iPhone?

CALLER: Being a capitalist, I would prefer to work for it, but I think that maybe my input for the show today would suffice as actual payment or actual work done in order to get it, so yes, I would.

RUSH: All right. I was gonna say, come on, man, take it.

CALLER: (laughing).

RUSH: Now, you have your preferences here. There are three new iPhones. There’s the XS Max, which is a six-and-a-half-inch screen with improved LTE antennas and speed, and you can have two lines on it. There’s the iPhone XS, same thing but a 5.8-inch screen and the iPhone XR, which is a 6.1-inch screen, only one camera, it does not have the souped up LTE, but you can have two lines. Which of the three would you prefer?

CALLER: Being as I’m 6.6 and 270 pounds, I’m gonna go with the larger of them.

RUSH: There you go! There you go! So you want the iPhone XS Max. All right. You will have that. We’re gonna get that out today. I’m gonna go throw in a cable and a charge brick, 18 watts for a fast charge. Don’t use what’s in the box. It’ll take you three hours to charge the thing with that. I’m gonna send you something to charge it in an hour and a half max and some other little goodies, but I need of you to hang on so we can get an address to get this out to you FedEx. Okay?

CALLER: Thank you, sir.

RUSH: Okay. So now I will not feel guilty when I steal “treasure map to the truth.” That’s Paul, by the way, in San Antonio.

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