Woman Sexually Harassed by Fellow Women Asks for a Kanye Album Tip
May 1, 2018
RUSH: Robbie in Sacramento, my adopted hometown. It’s great to have you with us. How are you doing?
CALLER: Hi! Great! Hi, Rush Limbaugh. I’ve been listening to you on KFBK out here since ’80s, so long enough to know that you are a good judge of music. And I am calling to request a music recommendation. But first, a confession of my own artistic ignorance. I had no idea that Kanye West was such a thoughtful person — and I love thoughtful music! I love thoughtful poetry. One of my favorite albums of all time is The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, and now I want to check out Kanye. I’d like to purchase a song or an album, and I know he’s made a lot of music, and I don’t know where to start, and I was wondering if you had a recommendation for a particularly thoughtful song or album that would be a good one for me to start with.
RUSH: Well, I don’t at this moment, but in mere moments I will have a suggestion for you, if you keep your radio on.
CALLER: Okay. And then may I…? While I give you time, may I make another comment about the correspondents dinner —
CALLER: — and the #MeToo movement?
RUSH: Have at it.
RUSH: It’s your call.
CALLER: So I found it very interesting that at the correspondents dinner, it was a female who so vulgarly harassed Sarah Sanders. And I find that so interesting because I’m a Millennial. I’m on the upper age spectrum on Millennials, so I’ve had enough time to get a taste of the professional world. I’ve experienced a good deal of sexual harassment from men. But hands down, no contest, it has been women who have given me the most harassment and made professional life the most miserable for me.
RUSH: Can you describe for me…? What form does the harassment from women take place?
CALLER: Well, there’s a couple of things. One is a constant suggestion that they make that because I have a good working relationship with some of my male colleagues, that it’s because of the way I look or that it might be because some of some sexual component.
RUSH: Uh-huh. Yes. I’m not surprised by any of this, Robbie. None of it.
CALLER: Yeah. So totally, totally degrading my professional skills, my mind.
RUSH: They’re basically… They’re accusing you of sleeping with these people, and that’s why you’re doing well, right?
CALLER: Yes. Exactly.
CALLER: And then also discriminating against me for the way I look, and it has constantly been women that have caused me to want —
RUSH: I know.
CALLER: — to change how I’m going to dress —
RUSH: I know.
CALLER: — or wear my hair at an interview or going to work, choosing to not wear makeup, choosing to dress a little frumpier —
RUSH: I know.
CALLER: — things where I just don’t want it to get in the way of my professional success. So, yeah, it’s not been fun. They’ve been savage. They’ve just tried to destroy me, tear my down. Without fail, it’s been men who have championed me professionally, told me I could do things I didn’t think I could do as a woman, and I have not had that support from other females.
RUSH: Yeah. None of this is either a surprise or even news to me. The fact that women can be vicious to one another is something that’s not often discussed because the current climate is focused on the mean-spiritedness and evilness of men. But believe me, I have seen it. I have seen the viciousness. I have seen it and it is mean. There have been movies about it, Mean Girls, for example.
RUSH: I have seen it. I once observed long ago… If you’ve been listening to this program since the late ’80s on KFBK, whether you remember it or not, you have heard me share an observation. You know, you’re walking down the street, you look across the street, and you see an attractive woman. You’re a guy; you see an attractive woman. You stare; you can’t help it. It’s nature.
What you don’t see is other women staring daggers at her for daring to be dressed the way she is in public or whatever. You don’t see that because you’re not looking. But it can be vicious out there, and especially in an interoffice complex arrangement where there is a ladder of success everybody’s trying to climb. So I have seen it. Obviously, not being a woman, I haven’t experienced it. But I’ve seen it, and I know how vicious it can be. You’ve had to actually modify the way you dress just to reduce the kind of —
CALLER: I’m a little hesitant to admit this because I did it for strategic reasons, but I wonder if it was compromising integrity. But I have chosen to wear 10-year-old shoes to an interview. I’ve chosen to put my hair in a bun for an interview when I knew I was going —
RUSH: Wait, with another woman, was it a woman?
CALLER: Yeah. Yes.
RUSH: You didn’t want to appear threatening or challenging in any area where she might have felt superior to you?
CALLER: Right. Because in my opinion, generally true about women, is they don’t want another woman in the room that they feel might outshine them in any way.
RUSH: I’m not gonna divulge anything of course, but I know exactly, I know exactly what you’re saying, Robbie. I have seen it. I’ve not been a victim of it, obviously. We men have our own problems in this regard, and they’re the same. They manifest themselves in different ways, but we have the same problems. I once got fired. I was working for a pathological liar, and I couldn’t handle it anymore. I felt like my intelligence was being insulted. I called this guy, “Would you stop bragging about this stuff that didn’t happen? You don’t know this person, you didn’t work there.”
And I got home in 30 minutes and the owner of the radio station was on the phone firing me because the guy, he happened to be my boss, he had called the owner of the station and said, “This guy is really off the rails.” But I couldn’t handle it, I just couldn’t. Pathological lying is something I do not deal with well. I do now, I know how to look the other way and forget it, but back then it was one of the pet peeves. We all have various pet appeases. That was one of mine. But look. Keep your radio on, we’ll have a couple Kanye suggestions here for you before the program ends ’cause we got a Kanye expert here.
CALLER: Great. Thank you.
RUSH: On the staff. Anyway, I appreciate the call. It’s great to know you’ve been listening to KFBK since the late ’80s? That’s awesome.
CALLER: Yes. With the lovely Kitty O’Neal.
RUSH: Oh, yes.
CALLER: Who is doing a wonderful job. Better than ever.
RUSH: She’s great. Absolutely fantastic. Okay, well, you’re bringing back so many great, great memories of my adopted hometown. Robbie, thanks for the call. I appreciate it.
CALLER: Thank you.
RUSH: You better.
RUSH: Okay. By the way, I’m gonna have to add Robbie to the all-time top-ten favorite female names, Robbie in Sacramento. Robbie, the first thing I want you to try, it’s explicit, it’s got the little E by the title meaning explicit lyrics, but given your experience working with other women and what you’ve had to do to accommodate mistreatment there, I don’t think this will be a problem for you. Gold Digger would be a good tune to start with, with Kanye.
Now, Kanye’s thoughtfulness that you referred to in his music, I haven’t listened to Kanye music because of my hearing problems. I have a big problem being able to translate the melodies of songs that I didn’t know before I lost my hearing. Everything sounds the same note. (interruption) What was that? Oh. Snerdley is telling me that I’m blessed by not being able to hear some of the new music. But my comments on Kanye’s thoughtfulness really center around the tweets that he has been recently sending and what I think is behind them. There is a lot of thoughtfulness behind this stuff that he’s tweeting out.
As far as his music, I can’t vouch for it. I’m not saying one thing or another about that. That’s up for you to decide. Music’s subjective. You like it or you don’t. There’s no right or wrong. Some people like country. Some people don’t. There’s nothing wrong with either way about it. Find what you like, and you’ll be cool and ready to go.