RUSH: Adam in Hollywood, Florida. Adam, great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.
CALLER: Hey, Rush.
RUSH: Hey, how are you, Adam?
CALLER: It’s an honor to speak with you. Great, great honor to speak with you. Thank you so much for taking my call. I really appreciate it.
RUSH: You bet.
CALLER: I’m curious how to respond to friends and acquaintances I have on social media who immediately equate any form of being careful with the influx of Syrian refugees to racism and xenophobia. There’s not even an intelligent conversation.
RUSH: I know. You’ve gotta get out of the sewer there, Adam.
CALLER: I’m sorry?
RUSH: You’re in a sewer. You know, the old argument, you never get into an argument with a fool because after a while people can’t tell who’s who.
CALLER: They’ll drag you down and beat you with experience, huh?
RUSH: Not drag you down. It’s just you’re never gonna change their mind about anything. The thing that I would do if I encountered something like this, always make them site. So you got your liberal friends saying anybody trying to stop the refugees is xenophobic or racist. First off have ’em name names, and then ask them to explain the virtues of the refugees. Make them demonstrate what they actually don’t know.
And then demonstrate that all they’re doing is emoting. And then shame them. Shame them for being so uninformed, for being so malleable, so subject to propaganda, and blame them for posing a great threat. Their attitudes are putting this country at great risk. Just don’t ever go on defense with them, Adam. Just always stay on offense. Do not grant them any moral superiority. You make ’em prove it, demo it, hang on. Not through here.
RUSH: I wanted to go back to Adam in Hollywood. He’s still… Adam, you’re still there, right?
CALLER: Yes, I am.
RUSH: How do you normally deal with it? You’ve got these… You’re dealing genuinely here with… Look, I want to be honest but charitable at the same time. You’re dealing with genuinely ignorant people here. You’re dealing with provocateurs, and you’re dealing with people that are arrogant and condescending and think that they are morally superior when they can’t… Adam, they can’t hold a candle to you. Whatever you do, do not get defensive. Do not ever allow them to occupy position where you feel like you have to prove what you believe or your decency or your goodness. That’s all they’re trying to do, is position you as morally inferior to them.
RUSH: However you choose to deal with them, stay above them. Demand names, demand evidence, if you want to engage ’em. I would un-like ’em, if I were you. But if you want to have fun with it, how do you deal with it yourself?
CALLER: Well, what I usually do, I mean, I like to cite news articles but I don’t like to pull the conservative publications because, you know, that’s the answer right there, that you already have a slant. So I try to pull our side from ABC News. You know, that’s a different liberal news sources, and when you post, like, a liberal news site, the immediate response is insults and name-calling, not even an intelligent response to the cited source.
RUSH: Well, of course. That’s all they’ve got. They’re not there to debate ideas with you, Adam. They don’t think they should have to. You are inferior. Their superiority in their own mind — and, actually, they don’t feel superior. These are actually a bunch of sick reprobates. But the fact is that they’re trying to feel superior to you, and, as such, they never have to prove anything. They never have to explain anything, never have to justify anything. You’re the one who does. That’s why it’s… Now, if you want to take this on as an object lesson in persuasion and try various techniques, then that would be cool, just to see if you can pull it off. But don’t get dragged down in the mud with these people. These are pigs, and pigs like the mud.
CALLER: Great. Awesome. Thank you for the advice. I really appreciate it.
RUSH: Wait. I’m not through here. If you want to get specific… Like, what do they say? Give me an example, like, they call you or anybody else a xenophobe or a racist if they oppose the Syrian refugees.
CALLER: I’ll give you a great example. I’m Jewish. Half of my family was murdered in the gas chambers. So the first thing they want to throw at me is the SS St. Louis.
RUSH: They —
CALLER: I mean, where is the connection?
RUSH: They actually throw the SS St. Louis? That proves to me these people are doing nothing but regurgitating a bunch of garbage that they’re reading. I’ll guarantee you 90% of them don’t even know what the SS St. Louis is. But here’s what you tell ’em. It’s very simple. Jewish people are an ethnicity. Syrian people are a nationality. We’re talking about people from nation versus a religion. There’s no… The Jewish people were not attempting to populate countries for the purposes of conducting jihad, like Islamists, the militant Islamic jihadists are.
That is actually a profound insult, for these people to try to compare them, and the SS St. Louis was a ship, Jewish people from Germany trying to leave, and they were not accepted, not allowed to land in Florida. They were not allowed to dock in Florida. I saw a movie about this when I was too young to know what it was, and I was 10- or 12-years-old. It was one of the most boring movies I’ve ever seen because I didn’t understand it.
But that movie did not try to make the claim that the people interpreting it today are. They’re trying to draw moral equivalence to United States then to the United States now, and the best thing to tell them is a generic thing. You need to tell these clowns the United States of America is not the problem. The United States of America is the solution. It’s people like those that you’re talking to are the problem. They pose a grave danger and threaten to the future existence of the country. And that’s… If I were you, I would tell ’em that and then unfriend ’em or dislike them or whatever you do.
CALLER: Great. Great.
RUSH: I’m not kidding. I’m not kidding, Adam, because you’re not ever going to… None of these people, not a one of them is ever gonna say to you, “You know what? You’re right. Thank you.” They exist for one reason only, and that’s to dispirit you, depress you, make you mad. They’re sick. They’re not psychologically all there. Twitter has become a home, certain sewers of Twitter have become homes to people like this.
CALLER: Oh, no, this is Facebook. I don’t deal with Twitter at all.
RUSH: Well, six of one, half dozen of the other.
CALLER: (laughing) You’re right. You’re right.
RUSH: They just got more characters at Facebook to write their drivel.
CALLER: And it’s a lot easier to post a meme with a bunch of words illustrating a point than it is on Twitter.
RUSH: There you go. Okay, true. The point is to have fun with it. But whatever you do, whatever, do not ever — I’m talking about within yourself. Do not ever assume a defensive posture or an inferior posture to these people, especially when and if you interact with ’em.
RUSH: Bradford, Columbia, South Carolina. Great to have you, sir, on the EIB Network. Hello.
CALLER: Thank you, Rush. You’re a great American. Thank you for having me on.
RUSH: (chuckles) Thank you, sir, very much.
CALLER: I just wanted to piggyback on an earlier conversation you had with Adam. I’ll make it quick. But I think a lot of people in your audience, myself included, do have a lot of social media interactions with people on Facebook, and all the strategies that I’ve learned — because I do it kind of for fun, talk to these libs — is you gotta hit ’em with facts, and there’s so many of ’em out there, and that’s just really the only way you can overcome their objection. Like you said early, you cannot be defenseless. The Republican —
RUSH: Wait, wait. Slow down just a minute. Are you saying that you can overcome them with facts? Do you like talking to them out there on Facebook and so forth? Is that what you —
RUSH: You do?
CALLER: I have four kids so I can’t allow this kind of propaganda to be disseminated without any kind of push-back. I just think we’re too passive as conservatives and we allow them to put this stuff out there and for it to be absorbed by people, and that’s just not the way we’re gonna overcome it.
RUSH: Well, I agree with that. The passivity is no good. So you take ’em out and be how do you…? How do you push back with specificity? What do you — and do you actually get concessions from these people that they were wrong?
CALLER: Well, their silence is a concession, and that’s really what drives me ’cause after a while, all day it’s crickets. You don’t hear anything from ’em anymore, they back off, and they move on. So that’s the defeat, when they stop talking their nonsense. Because if you let them, they’ll keep going and going and going and stating these opinions as facts, these emotional outbursts that they have as facts. And once you give them actually facts, then they become quiet and they may move on, and then no longer can decimate the propaganda. So that’s what we have going.
RUSH: Well, I’m glad you’ve found that to be the case. In our interactions with them we have found that their silence does not mean acquiescence. We have found they retreat and they refocus their efforts elsewhere, when they find out that you don’t accept it and you push back, leave you alone and move on down the line. Because what they’re ultimately aiming to do is pervert and pollute and corrupt as many people and their opinions as possible.
So if you are able, in your push-back, to appear to any and all who are watching, to slam them and break them, then of course they’re gonna leave you alone, and they’re gonna try to pretend you don’t exist anymore. But, look, I admire what you’re doing. Don’t misunderstand. I love the push-back. That’s why I was telling Adam, “Whatever you do, if you decide to engage with these people, you always stay superior to ’em. You do not accept any premise they put forward that puts you on defense. Don’t accept any premise, but certainly don’t ever go on defensive.
“Don’t think you have to justify or explain yourself to these people ’cause it’s the other way around. They’re the ones that don’t know diddly-squat about what they’re talking about.” And… (interruption) Well, and of course laugh at ’em, but how? It’s hard to convey laughter on Facebook. You can do it, but, yeah, laughing at ’em and getting other people to join you in mocking them and laughing at ’em? I mean, ridiculing? That is, perhaps, the deepest slice of all, is succeeding in ridiculing these people as the Nimrods that they are.
So don’t misunderstand. I admire the effort, the push-back, particularly if you’re having fun with it. That in itself is going to be infectious and will inspire other people to try it. The problem with the left is, they’re fact-proof. They’re not dealing in fact. You can hit ’em with fact after fact, stat after stat. That’s not what they’re talking about. They have their own facts — and really, their opinions are their facts, and yours don’t sway them at all. Maybe you do when they go silent. That’s great, if that happens. More power to you.