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RUSH: We go to Fort Collins, Colorado. Hi, Pat. Great to have you with us on the EIB Network. Hi.

CALLER: Thank you so much for taking my call, Rush. I just had two questions that I have kind of mulled over my mind over the weekend, and I haven’t heard anything about them so I thought I’d come to you and find out the answers. One was the details of the whole Bill Clinton-Donald Trump phone call that supposedly took place. It seemed like the news of that came and went and nothing ever was talked much more about it.

And then the second thing was on Saturday morning something flashed over my tablet said that Donald Trump had fired his campaign consultant. And nobody’s talked about that, either. And my question was: If he’s doing so well and if all these things are going so great for him, what’s actually going on? And during listening to your show, the only other thought that came to my mind was: Are we in the process of totally giving a new definition to the term “trumped up”?

RUSH: (laughing) Well..

CALLER: (laughing)

RUSH: Why don’t you just tell us what you really think out there, Pat?

CALLER: I don’t know. No. That’s why I’m calling you.

RUSH: Okay.

CALLER: I’m like, “Okay, these stories came and went, and then they were gone, and nothing ever happened.” So I was just curious about them.

RUSH: Let me explain the best I can here. I think the news that Clinton had called Trump was planted prior to the debate so that it might end up being used as a question to embarrass Trump.


RUSH: The only person in either debate to reference it was Carly Fiorina, and she made a joke about it in her opening statement.

CALLER: Right.

RUSH: She asked anybody else if they had received a call from Bill Clinton. Nothing more came of it, because I think it was designed to come up during the debate, to be asked of Trump. They never got to it, and so it just went away.


RUSH: I think had it come up, the answer to it would have been, “Bill Clinton calls everybody! Bill Clinton probably called Jeb. Bill Clinton’s the brother the Bushes never had. Bill Clinton is loved and adored by the Bush family, and there’s constant back-and-forth conversation.” This story was that Clinton called Trump and said, “The conservative movement needs some energy. They need you in the campaign,” and it was obviously designed to embarrass Trump should the be asked, but I think it was designed specifically for the debate and it didn’t happen so it went away.


RUSH: The campaign manager that quit, I can’t remember why — or that was fired. Are you about Roger Stone?

CALLER: Yes, I think that’s the gentleman, yeah.

RUSH: Roger Stone. (chuckles) Well, this is… This is two sides to this one, too. Roger Stone. Roger Stone is a well-known Republican consultant and flamethrower from way back. He was formerly married to a woman named Ann Stone, who used to head up Republican Women for Choice way back in the early nineties.

CALLER: Ah-haaaa!

RUSH: It was his wife who was leading the movement to get the Republican Party to drop abortion from the formula. Now, they’re since divorced. I’m going back now the eighties and so forth.


RUSH: When Roger Ailes was Bush’s campaign consultant, Roger Stone was always trying to secure a top candidate for his similar kind of services. The fact that he was working for Trump was unknown to me, but he resigned. He claimed he resigned over Trump’s comment about Megyn Kelly, and Trump claims he fired him.


RUSH: So take your pick.


RUSH: It’s six of one, half a dozen of the other. I don’t know what’s the truth about that one.


RUSH: But Roger Stone plays hardball. Roger Stone is in it for… When they say politics is a blood sport… I don’t mean to be making a pun here.

CALLER: (laughing)

RUSH: (laughing) But Roger Stone, he’s a tough, tough competitor. He has worked a lot for New York gubernatorial candidates, Republican candidates, and he’s a flamethrower. He’s tough as nails.

CALLER: Sure. Sure. Okay. Well, that’s the best I’ve heard from anybody anywhere I’ve been able to look at those two things.

RUSH: Well, do you think that Roger Stone quitting or being fired should mean something and the fact that not a lot of news is made of it is interesting or curious?

CALLER: I didn’t know. I didn’t know. But to me it seemed odd that you would have someone who was supposedly rising so much or staying where they were in quote/unquote “the polls,” usually that’s not when somebody fires somebody. (chuckles) You know, usually if things are going well and you’re going up in the polls even if it’s a point or two, you must be doing something right.

RUSH: Well —

CALLER: So I just found it sort of odd —

RUSH: (sigh)

CALLER: — and my joking comment to you about being “trumped up,” you know, I guess there’s just been an element of all of this that I sort of feel like there’s a lot of that going on.

RUSH: Well —

CALLER: You know, trumping up of things, whether —

RUSH: (chuckling)

CALLER: Whether it’s about Donald per se or whether it’s about Fox News being on the right or on the wrong, it just seems like there’s so many mountains being made out of so many molehills.

RUSH: No! It’s because it’s all new.

CALLER: Yeah, yeah.

RUSH: It’s because, I’m telling you: People haven’t seen anything like this before.

CALLER: Yeah, I guess so.

RUSH: And Trump fires people left and right. He’s got a TV show based on firing people.

CALLER: Sure. Sure. Sure. So to me, that sort of went along with what he does, you know? But like I said, I didn’t really know if it meant anything, and I hadn’t seen any other news about it. So I thought I’d call you and find out what’s going on.

RUSH: It doesn’t neither mean anything.

CALLER: Okay. (chuckling)

RUSH: The bottom line is: Neither. Both were intended, if they were gonna have any impact at all, to have momentary, instant impact, and if they didn’t.


RUSH: They were just going to fade away.

CALLER: Sure, and that must be what they’ve done.

RUSH: I think the real news is, of all of this, the oddest thing to me is that Bill Clinton did not call Carly Fiorina. I mean, she’s the woman in the race!


RUSH: Here’s Steven, Greenville, North Carolina. Welcome, sir. It’s great to have you on the EIB Network. Hi.

CALLER: Good afternoon, Rush. I just wanted to talk about the Donald Trump-Megyn Kelly situation. It’s been said before, I know, but this is all about hard-core honesty. We all grew up in times where we all knew a person that no matter how salty their delivery or how tough they put it into words, you knew that they were telling you straight up what the deal was. Now, he may not be the most articulate speaker in the world.

But when he’s addressing things that these other politicians are not — which are basically professional bald-faced liars — it’s very, very refreshing to the public out there. They want to hear the truth. Megyn Kelly with this menstruation flap and everything? You know, a lot of the times the things that they come up with as far as defense or attack is…

I’ve found that 99% of the time, a left winger will always say what they would do or what they’re guilty of or what’s on their minds. They make an accusation against somebody when they themselves are guilty of it. So they have a habit of turning this all around and making an accusation to someone that is not guilty of it. But it is something that they would do or the person that makes the accusation would do.

RUSH: This is a well-known practice among journalists on the left especially, yes. You’re right about that.

CALLER: Yeah. So, I mean, I think that obviously Donald Trump is gonna have to make the adjustment. You know, he’s gonna have to grow as the process goes along. But public wants to hear the truth, and so far he’s addressing the issues that nobody else wants to touch. They want to just gloss it all over and move on.

RUSH: Well, is your point that all these journalists out there, many of them, make these charges against people — or raise these charges — and in fact they’re guilty of maybe even worse stuff themselves?

CALLER: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. And it’s not just the journalists. It’s the politicians and the operatives. When they come out with these hits like the menstruation thing, when I think that most people knew what he meant by blood in the eye, I mean, that’s a very common phrase —

RUSH: Well, now, wait a second. Nobody came out anything other than Trump. Trump’s the one that said… The application of the menstrual cycle meaning was you’re right attached by others, but not by Megyn Kelly. I mean, it was just others who assumed that that’s what he meant when he later said that he didn’t mean that at all, and anybody thinks that’s a deviant and so forth.

I think one of the factors happening here… Gee, I’m out of time. I may have to save this, but I think there’s a lot of people in journalism, not naming names here, who actually think of themselves as personalities and celebrities themselves (and maybe even want to be), which is one of the reasons why there’s a indistinct line of separation between the news maker and the reporter anymore.

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