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MACCALLUM: Joining me now by phone, radio talk show host himself, Rush Limbaugh. Hi, Rush.

RUSH: Hi, Martha. How are you?

MACCALLUM: I’m fine, thank you. Is it — is it true? Have you always had a crush on Hillary Clinton?

RUSH: Noooo. You know, I think she’s just saying this because — actually, the explanation for this is, to me, I understand now why Bill Clinton hit on my date about a year ago at the Kobe Club in New York. I was minding my own business and Clinton came in, and the short version is, he used the mayor of Los Angeles to distract me while hitting on my date.

MACCALLUM: All right.

RUSH: So I figure he thinks it must be true, too.

MACCALLUM: I can’t believe that, Rush. I find that impossible to believe.

RUSH: Imp…? Martha?

MACCALLUM: (laughing)

RUSH: Martha, I would not… Do you want the rhyme and reason? I’ll tell you the — I’ll give you… He came over three or four times. He had Ron Burkle with him and the mayor of Los Angeles — who I thought was either the shoe shine guy or a Secret Service agent — and he was going on and on and on about how he loved me, had to talk to me; and after a minute of talking to the mayor of LA, I glanced to my left and Bill Clinton’s face is three inches away from my date.


RUSH: And so now Hillary says I have a crush on her. This is obviously something Clinton has thought for a long time in their household.

MACCALLUM: Rush, let me ask you something. You know, Operation Chaos, some people think, you know, that there’s evidence that has been quite successful in a number of states; Pennsylvania among them. What do you expect for tomorrow in Indiana? Do you think it will be successful there, too?

RUSH: Oh, no question, because the success or the definition of success of Operation Chaos is just that: Is there chaos? The original purpose of this, before the Texas and Ohio primaries, was to make sure that Obama got bloodied up politically. He was riding the messianic trail at the time. The McCain campaign had sworn they were not going to criticize Obama. Who better than the Clintons to do it? But for that to happen, the nomination process needed to be extended. She needed to stay in. Our purpose is not to see that either one of these people get the nomination. It is to see to it that neither of them get it by virtue of the primaries, that the superdelegates have to make the choice and cause ultimate chaos.

MACCALLUM: That’s certainly what we’ve been seeing. You know, there’s a sense out there that the tide is turning for her. Do you think that’s true?

RUSH: Hard to say. You know, most of the media is totally in the tank for Barack Obama; and if she loses, or if he wins by even the narrowest of margins tomorrow it’s going to be very, very, very obvious. I heard last night before she made her speech in Indianapolis that her staff told her that her internals showed her not doing well, losing maybe Indiana. I trust my source on this, which is why we issued orders today for our operatives to vote Hillary tomorrow in the (laughs) Indiana primary.

MACCALLUM: That would be —

RUSH: But, look, there’s no question she’s got the momentum, Martha. He hasn’t won a primary since February 22nd. He’s lost primaries in seven of the largest ten states. She does have the momentum right now.

MACCALLUM: That would be a huge loss for her. If she lost Indiana it would be hard to say how she could make the argument to go on. Let me ask you this, Rush —

RUSH: These are the Clintons, Martha! They don’t quit.


RUSH: And this is what she has lived for.

MACCALLUM: No, they are incredibly tenacious and that’s proving to, you know, work for them. They never say die and they are not quitting; and, if anything, she has more power, more strength right now than I’ve seen her have in a long time. But let me ask you this, Rush. In terms of the Florida and Michigan issue, do you think that she has every right to fight that?

RUSH: Sure. This is the Democrat primary, and it will cause more chaos. She damn well sure should fight it. She wants to win this. She’s not in this to be a good sport and at the end of it say, ‘Thanks, Obama. You ran a great campaign.’ She should, no question, continue doing this. Absolutely.

MACCALLUM: Do you have time for one more quick question, Rush?

RUSH: I do. I think we’ve just rejoined my program. So, Martha, you are now on the EIB Network with your final question.

MACCALLUM: Hi there. Thank you. Hi, everybody. Rush, let me ask you one more question. Do you ever think that you might have created a monster in this situation? Do you think that Hillary Clinton is strengthened by all of this, and that she could then beat John McCain in November if she’s the nominee?

RUSH: A lot of people in my audience — I won’t say it’s a lot, but I do get e-mails from people who are a little worried that we’ve revived Hillary here and there’s a lot — on our side of the aisle, there’s a tremendous amount — of fear of the Clintons, and I keep telling people, ‘Look, she puts her pants on one leg at a time like all the other guys. There’s no reason for all of this fear.’ She has been revived. I haven’t created a monster. We don’t have the ability to choose their nominee. Remember, their nominee is going to be chosen by the superdelegates, not by Democrat voters. Then it’s up to McCain to beat her, if she gets the nomination. I frankly think Obama is going to get this. That’s not the point. The point of this has been to extend it, exactly as it has been extended; to have these people go at each other’s throats. You know, Obama’s now been bloodied up. He’s no longer this messianic candidate. She already has half the country that hates her, according to the disapproval numbers. So we’ve succeeded here even beyond our wildest objectives.

MACCALLUM: All right, Rush. It’s very interesting, as always, to talk to you. Thanks for letting us join your show for a little bit, and hi to all your viewers. Have a great show and we’ll talk to you soon.

RUSH: Thank you, Martha.

MACCALLUM: Thank you.

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