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RUSH: This is Anthony, Colorado Springs, Colorado. Hello, sir. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thank you, sir. I\u2019d like to say the Putin is not invading the Ukraine. He\u2019s ensuring that his 20% pro-Russian supporter base is not dissolved or dismantled before the Ukrainian elections. That way he can ensure that he gets a neutral, non-pro-EU government in this presidential election. He can grow his 20% supporter base to 35% for the next election, and get a pro-Russian government in that election. Every great strategist knows that you first build one\u2019s defenses before you move to take the battlefield. I\u2019d like to compare this to our involvement in Egypt where Obama sent money and guns to radicals in his minority supporter base before the Egyptian presidential election. Or compare this to United States crushing Cuba\u2019s economy just for being a Russian supporter so close to our border. We don\u2019t have the moral ground to stand on and point fingers, sir.<\/p>\n

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(crosstalk)<\/p>\n

RUSH: Here is the problem. And this is exactly who Obama really is. A moral equivalence. This guy from Colorado Springs claims that what Putin is doing in Ukraine is what we have done in Cuba and everywhere else in the world, and why can\u2019t they do it if we do it? But we don\u2019t do what Putin is doing. That\u2019s not who we are.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Another note to seminar callers: You see why we don\u2019t permit people to read from prepared scripts on the program. We want you to tell us what you really think, not read something that you found interesting or influential. Because nobody outside of trained professional with read something somebody else wrote and make it sound compelling. I\u2019m one of the few who can do it. I do it each and every day. <\/p>\n

So I\u2019m saying, “Don\u2019t try this at home.” But nevertheless, that caller, “Anthony from Colorado Springs,” is exactly what I am talking about in terms of who it is that is running this country. That is exactly what the American left believes, that we have plundered the world, that we have run around the world and we have imposed our view, and we have imposed our freedom.<\/p>\n

We have imposed our system on people, and in the process we have stolen their natural resources. In some cases, we\u2019ve taken their oil and we\u2019ve taken their diamonds. We\u2019ve taken their minerals, and we have enslaved their people. This is what they believe. So, when the KGB decides to rebuild Russia into the Soviet Union again and takes over Georgia, and now threatens to make a move in Ukraine, all of a sudden, “Hey, we do it! Why are we telling them they can\u2019t do it?”<\/p>\n

We don\u2019t do it. <\/p>\n

That\u2019s the difference. <\/p>\n

We don\u2019t conquer. (interruption) Okay… (interruption) Okay… (interruption) The… (interruption) Okay, so you want to ask the question, “Doesn\u2019t Russia have the right to go in and squash a bunch of little bugs who border them, who are engaging in the behavior they don\u2019t like that they might consider threatening?” Have you forgotten that the Ukrainians disarmed? They disarmed after we promised to defend them. <\/line><\/p>\n

The Ukrainians do not have a military per se. Let me find that in the Stack here. (interruption) Well, they trusted us. They trusted Bill Clinton. They trusted the UK. Let me find the story here. Damn it, I put this the bottom of the Stack someplace. I may have to dig it out. I may have already used it and didn\u2019t get to that part of it. But… Here we go. This is it. It\u2019s in the French News Agency story: “Ukraine Soldiers Vow Defiance as Bases Surrounded.” <\/p>\n

Nobody is telling you that Ukraine cannot defend itself. It gutted its army and did away with its nukes. It had a nuclear weapons and it did away with its nuclear deterrent based on assurances by Russia and the US as well as the UK, France, and China that their territory would be inviolate, including Crimea. Bill Clinton signed those assurances for the US, and they were reaffirmed in 2009 by Obama. <\/p>\n

So the Ukraine military doesn\u2019t exist, for one thing. They were promised this wouldn\u2019t happen. (interruption) That\u2019s why we\u2019re doing what we\u2019re doing? Well, we\u2019re not doing anything, just like we didn\u2019t do anything in Syria, and just like we\u2019ve told the Israelis, “You know what? You\u2019re on your own now.” Let me repeat this to you, because nobody in the news media ever mentions that Ukraine cannot defend itself. <\/p>\n

They gutted their army. They even did away with their nukes. They had a formidable nuclear deterrent. They did this on the basis of promises, assurances by leftists, people running Russia and the United States — Bill Clinton and later Barack Obama — along with leftists in the UK and France and the ChiComs. They believed promises made by those people. Why else would they get rid of their military? <\/p>\n

They had been assured that they would not be invaded if they would simply gut the military. They were assured that their territory would be inviolate, and this included Crimea. These assurances were signed for the United States by Bill Clinton and reaffirmed in 2009 by the Obama administration. So even if that exists, if you want to say, “Well, look, the Russians don\u2019t like what these clowns are doing in Ukraine, and they want to take it back and rebuild the Soviet Union,” there is this thing called history. <\/p>\n

We fought for years dismantle Soviet communism because of its threat to us and what it was doing to people. It was the ultimate human rights campaign to get rid of the Soviet Union, to bust it up. There has to be an agent for good in the world. There has to be an agent for the influence of what is good and just and right. We\u2019ve always been that. Contrary to seminar callers and American leftists, we do not conquer. We liberate people. <\/p>\n

We liberate people from tyranny, bondage, authoritarianism, and then we pay to have their countries rebuilt, as in the case of the Marshall Plan in Europe and Japan after World War II. Putin knows exactly what he\u2019s doing, and he\u2019s doing it because he knows exactly he\u2019s not gonna be stopped. He knows exactly who he\u2019s up against. He knows exactly what kind of opposition he\u2019s gonna have. He knows he\u2019s basically got an ally. <\/p>\n

<\/a>Obama tells Medvedev<\/a>, “Just tell Vlad to wait until I win reelection, and then I\u2019ll be flexible, and I\u2019ll really start downgrading our nuclear capability in the United States so he can follow suit like I know he wants to do.” It was the joint declaration by the Russian Federation and the United States of America December 4th, 2009. That confirmed their commitment. Want me to read it? <\/p>\n

“1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine; <\/p>\n

“2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations; <\/p>\n

“3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind,” and I\u2019ve got the signatories.<\/p>\n

It was signed by Boris Yeltsin, originally; John Major, United Kingdom; William J. Clinton, United States; Leonid D. Kuchma for Ukraine. That is the original. That was what was reaffirmed in 2009. Now, the seminar caller also said that we did to Cuba exactly what Putin is doing to Ukraine. We destroyed the Cuban economy with our embargo because they were a satellite of the Russians, of the Soviets. It was our embargo that destroyed Cuba. No, ladies and gentlemen. You see, this is another predictable lament of the left: The United States is the problem in the world. The United States is the destabilizing agent in the world. <\/p>\n

Do you know who destroyed Cuba? His name happened to be Fidel Castro, and the way he did it was to install communism throughout Cuba. It happened when I was a young child, but I remember all the appearances that Castro made. There was a time Castro had the US dangling at the end of a string. He had actually convinced us that he didn\u2019t know which way he was gonna go. He could have picked us or he could have gone with the Soviets. I remember he\u2019d show up on Face the Nation. He\u2019d show up on Meet the Press with the cigar and his military hat and his uniform on. I remember watching, it was a black-and-white TV, when I nine or 10 years old, I remember watching this stuff, eight or nine.<\/p>\n

I remember being afraid of the guy, and I remember being afraid of the guy because of the way the media was covering him. I didn\u2019t know Cuba from anything, but I was told that what was going on down there was very, very important. And then I remember when Castro supposedly made his decision and threw in with the communists, as though that were possibly not gonna happen. It turns out it was always gonna happen. Fidel Castro, communism, destroyed and keeps the destruction in place. Cuba. We didn\u2019t. Our embargo didn\u2019t. The Cubans can trade with anybody. You can go to France, UK, go to Canada, go anywhere, you can get a Cuban cigar, Cuban rum, Cuban sugar. You can visit Cuba if you live in any other of those countries. <\/line><\/p>\n

Our embargo destroyed Cuba? That\u2019s what Castro tells his people. He calls it the blockade, by the way. Half of Cuban people think there\u2019s an actual military blockade in the straits of Florida. They don\u2019t know any different. They think the US Navy\u2019s deployed with a blockade in the ocean. But this is my point. This guy was reading from some script and there\u2019s a column in the Washington Post today by the esteemed Eugene Robinson. “In the Ukraine Crisis, the US Has a Credibility Problem.”<\/p>\n

“Let\u2019s be real,” he says. “It\u00c2\u2019s one thing to say that Russia\u00c2\u2019s takeover of the Crimean Peninsula ‘cannot be allowed to stand,\u2019 as many foreign policy sages have proclaimed. It\u00c2\u2019s quite another to do something about it. Is it just me –” do you see, by the way, how I am reading interpretively and making this dull piece sound compelling? That\u2019s what I mean by you can\u2019t do it. I can. Leave it to me. Pick it up here again. “Is it just me, or does the rhetoric about the crisis in Ukraine sound as if all of Washington is suffering from amnesia? We\u00c2\u2019re supposed to be shocked — shocked! — that a great military power would cook up a pretext to invade a smaller, weaker nation? I\u00c2\u2019m sorry, but has everyone forgotten the unfortunate events in Iraq a few years ago?” (gasping)<\/p>\n

Oh, Iraq! See, we did to Iraq exactly what Putin\u2019s doing to Ukraine, and so we don\u2019t have any leg to stand on. Who the hell do we think we are? So they immediately establish a moral equivalence, which is we\u2019re no different than the worst bad guy in the world. In fact, we\u2019re worse than the worst bad guy because we\u2019ve got more power. We are the destabilizing force. Who the hell do we think we are? And that\u2019s the kind of people that populate the Obama administration. Do not doubt me.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Who else can but us? The Brits? No, nobody\u2019s gonna do anything. Yeah, it always does bounce back to us when things go awry in the world, but why not? That\u2019s what being a superpower is. That\u2019s what leadership is. That\u2019s what being looked up to is. That\u2019s what being looked to for guidance means. That\u2019s why it matters who\u2019s elected. That\u2019s why what they believe matters. (interruption) Build coalitions? To go into Iraq? You mean, why do they have to build a coalition if it\u2019s up to us to do so. That\u2019s just a concession to political correctness and the media. Remember, there are US opponents everywhere, including in this country, and they believe that we are the problem in the world not the solution. <\/p>\n

Now, I am not, nor have I advocated military action in Ukraine. That\u2019s not at all my position here. It never has been. All I\u2019m doing is pointing out the reason this is happening is because Putin knows full well he can get away with it. It matters who leads this country and what they believe matters. Kerry can sit here and whine and moan about how it\u2019s a twenty-first century and it\u2019s unfair that Putin is pretending it\u2019s the nineteenth century, but welcome to reality. These guys honestly believe — and nobody will convince me otherwise — people like Kerry and Obama believe their own PR. They really believe that their presence alone sends a signal to the bad guys of the world that we\u2019re not your enemy anymore. You don\u2019t have to engage in the kind of activity you\u2019re known for. <\/p>\n

They have no real understanding. We know Kerry doesn\u2019t, his days of Vietnam forward. We know Obama has no experience whatsoever in any of this, ever, doing anything. But we know that there are some universal truths. That bad guys are bad guys, and we know that people who run countries want to control more, and they will invade. It\u2019s the way of the world. Ours is a world governed by the aggressive use of force. Since you don\u2019t want to be at war all the time, what do you do? You have policies and stature that just shout deterrence. We build the B-2 bomber, for example, hoping we never have to use it. <\/p>\n

Now, a leftist will never understand that. We build the Strategic Defense Initiative hoping we never have to use it. We hope that its existence alone prevents bad guy aggression. That\u2019s how you deal with this. You deal with it by preventing it from happening, and even then you know it\u2019s going to now and then. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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