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RUSH: I tell you, folks, I am having a tough time keeping up with everything. I really am. Bruce Jenner is a woman, but still has his penis. Barack Obama is a Jew. Bill Clinton was the first black president, and Hillary Clinton says her interviews are her speeches. We\u2019re supposed to sit here and just accept all this. And they tell us we\u2019re the weirdos. We\u2019re the weirdos! <\/p>\n

Greetings, my friends. Great to have you. Rush Limbaugh, back at it — (laughing) — I\u2019m serious. Here behind the Golden EIB Microphone. The telephone number if you want to be on the program\u2019s 800-282-2882. <\/p>\n

Yeah, Nancy Grace, get to the bottom of this. Well, she was going in some direction. Yesterday on the program, I posited the possibility… I posited that what if this is all just a publicity stunt, that Caitlyn Jenner is simply engaging in a stunt here to illustrate how easy it is to scam the American media, the American pop culture, and the American corporate world by being paid to do all of this? <\/line><\/p>\n

And I don\u2019t know if Nancy Grace heard it or not, but she\u2019s now on the case, and I don\u2019t know why she asked. She\u2019s got this poor little guy who\u2019s the media expert at CNN, Brian Stelter, she starts grilling this guy whether or not Jenner still has his penis. I don\u2019t know why she thinks that Brian Stelter would know, but she wouldn\u2019t let the guy go. You want to hear it? You want to hear this? Here. Let\u2019s set this up. You know, the Stick-to-the-Issues Crowd is not gonna like this. I was actually gonna start with Hillary, and we\u2019ll get to Hillary, this business that she\u2019s telling the media that her speech is the interview. <\/p>\n

Now, I have done that, in a modified way. When I was out regularly on the Rush to Excellence Tour, the media would call and want an interview, and I would say, “Look, you don\u2019t need to interview me. Just listen to the speech if you want to know what I say. Just listen to the radio. Why do you need an interview? Listen to my radio program. Listen to when I go out and do the Rush to Excellence Tour.” <\/p>\n

Now, Mrs. Clinton is doing it to avoid the media. I was doing it because they were ignoring what I was saying. They would come in and want an interview so they could distort me all to smithereens. The difference is, they listen to Hillary and they find ways to make what she says palatable, intelligent, and smart. In my case they were ignoring what I say on purpose so as to not have to report it. But I\u2019ve done it. I\u2019ve declined an interview on the basis, “You don\u2019t need to interview me. Listen to my radio program. Or, alternatively, read my website.” But yesterday, let\u2019s go back, turn back the hands of time not even 24 hours, yesterday I posited the following<\/a>.<\/p>\n

<\/a>RUSH ARCHIVE: Wouldn\u2019t it be great if all this is just a publicity stunt to show how shallow the American pop culture and entertainment culture is and how easy it is to hijack it, by coming out and going through something like this. And look at me, “I could go from a $100 to $500 million net worth in ten years and captivate the attention of the American media. I could get all kinds of endorsement contracts for makeup, and I\u2019m a man telling everybody I\u2019m a woman.” Wouldn\u2019t that have been a great publicity stunt? It would have been one of the best all-time publicity stunts. And I guess there\u2019s an outside chance it still could be.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, so given that, we go to last night\u2019s Headline News Nancy Grace show, and she\u2019s speaking with the host of CNN\u2019s media program, Brian Stelter. Brian Stelter, CNN\u2019s media expert. Brian Stelter got started doing a blog called TVNewser, and the New York Times was so impressed they hired him, and CNN was so impressed they hired him away from there. So he\u2019s now the media expert, which I guess that means he knows everything about Bruce Jenner, uh, Caitlyn Jenner. So here\u2019s Grace. She\u2019s talking about Jenner\u2019s physical transformation, man to woman, with Brian Stelter, media expert, CNN.<\/p>\n

GRACE: How far has the transitioning gone? Okay, does he have a penis?<\/line><\/p>\n

STELTER: Well, that\u2019s the part everybody wants to ask, but everybody\u2019s afraid to ask, right?<\/p>\n

GRACE: I really don\u2019t have another way, I was trying — I was grasping for words, I didn\u2019t know quite how to put it out there.<\/p>\n

STELTER: The best answer I\u2019ve got, is she has said in the past that will be the last part, if she ever decides to go there, that will be the last part.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a minute, now. You can\u2019t become a woman without… (interruption) Well, what are you saying? Right, the chopadickoffamy operation. You\u2019ve got to do that. This is all academic. How can you become a woman if you have not had the chopadickoffamy? So here\u2019s the next guest. Nancy Grace talking to Dr. Kathy Rumer about Jenner\u2019s transformation to Caitlyn Jenner, and this is how that sounded.<\/p>\n

GRACE: I\u2019ve got a question. At this juncture, is Caitlyn Jenner a woman? Does he still have a penis, or does she have a vagina, how does this whole thing work?<\/p>\n

RUMER: Well, I think the jury is still out on that one, whether he\u2019s had bottom surgery yet or not.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a minute, stop the tape. What do you mean, the jury is still out? Cue this back to the top. (laughing) The jury is still out? It seems pretty cut and dry to me. It seems pretty up and down to me, yes or no, one way or the other. Here it is again. I\u2019ll try not to laugh uproariously and interrupt this.<\/p>\n

GRACE: I\u2019ve got a question. At this juncture, is Caitlyn Jenner a woman? Does he still have a penis, or does she have a vagina, how does this whole thing work?<\/p>\n

RUMER: Well, I think the jury is still out on that one, whether he\u2019s had bottom surgery yet or not. It\u2019s essential for the patient to live at a minimum for one year in the role as a female, if they are transgender female, or transgender male, living a male role.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why? Why is it mandatory to live for a year before you have, I guess the new term “bottom surgery”? For those of you in Rio Linda, that obviously means below the waist. So why would you have to wait a year? Is there some sort of psychological hormonal thing that you\u2019ve gotta do to adjust, or is it a commitment thing, that you show people that you\u2019re really dead serious about this and you\u2019ve gotta do that for a year? What happens, by the way, if say nine months in, you fail? Maybe that\u2019s probably why they wait, \u2019cause that would be — I mean, that\u2019d be a point of no return, right? I mean, how do you go back? So maybe that\u2019s why. Maybe they wait to see if somebody is really serious about this. (interruption) Well, that\u2019s a hormonal thing. <\/p>\n

The “above the waist stuff,” that would be a hormonal fix, I would think. Brian Stelter is apparently the expert because Nancy Grace goes back to him here.<\/p>\n

GRACE: So, Bryan, senior media correspondent, senior media correspondent. Right now … he still has… the penis. Says you.<\/p>\n

STELTER: Well, I don\u2019t know any differently. I\u2019m going based on —<\/p>\n

GRACE: So you haven\u2019t looked?<\/p>\n

STELTER: — all that she has revealed so far. But like I said this has all been doled out one little detail at a time.<\/p>\n

RUSH: “So you haven\u2019t looked?” she said to him. (laughing) “So you haven\u2019t looked, Brian”? This poor guy. (laughing) He must have said, “Look, I\u2019m the media expert here. Why are you asking me?” She obviously thinks you\u2019ve got an inside on this, Brian. I mean, she asked you of all the people! There\u2019s Dr. Sanjay Gupta she could have asked. There\u2019s any number of experts in the medical field she could have asked but she went to the media expert on the network. Boy, she was boring in. Did you hear that? She was relentless. When you have Nancy Grace on the case, you don\u2019t want to be in her way. So, that\u2019s the latest on that. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Ray in St. Louis, you\u2019re next. It\u2019s great to have you on the EIB Network. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Greetings from Missouri. First name caller. Been listening to you for as long as I can remember. I was listening to your show earlier in your broadcast, and you were talking about Bruce Jenner — isn\u2019t everybody — and wondering what\u2019s he waiting for or why does he do this. I just thought I\u2019d update you there that he\u2019s waiting for probably — if this is when he came out, he\u2019s probably gonna wait a year before he does anything about it, because it\u2019s a medical requirement. Psychologists and whatever, it\u2019s on the DSM IV manual. It says wait for one year of real life experience so that you can find out what it\u2019s like, real life, you know.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait, I\u2019m glad you called, because I got some questions about this, because I\u2019m just listening to what Jenner or any of other transgender people say.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why do you have to go through a year? Why is a year of psychological adjustment required when you do this in the first place because you think — if you\u2019re a man, you think you\u2019re a woman. Why do you have to wait a year to find out if you\u2019re right? I mean, why do this in the first place? I\u2019m told that people say, “I knew I was the opposite sex when I was five years old or eight years old or whatever, you know, and I love wearing my mom\u2019s clothes, I knew it, I knew.” So why do doctors say, now, we gotta give them a year after they make the announcement and we do some of the surface changes to find out if it sticks?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I think it\u2019s partly because of insurance purposes, because first of all, this person\u2019s gonna spend, 20, $30,000 for this surgery, and surgeons who do this, the better ones, they won\u2019t even accept somebody for surgery without at least one year\u2019s — you know, real life experience. It\u2019s to give the person time to chicken out or realize they can\u2019t take it or whatever.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, I hear you. I understand. I just don\u2019t understand it. You either are or you aren\u2019t, and I don\u2019t know why you need a year to adjust. Now, the medical people, “I\u2019m not doing this until this person\u2019s sure.” What I hear when I hear a doctor saying that is, “They don\u2019t really know, they\u2019re playing around here, and we\u2019re not gonna do this until we\u2019re really convinced they\u2019re serious about this.” <\/p>\n

What we\u2019re talking about here, folks, if you\u2019re just joining us and you\u2019re trying to decipher this, Ray here called because we had some sound bites in the first hour. Nancy Grace, Headline News, on the case, asking the media expert at CNN, the media expert, Brian Stelter, if he knew whether Bruce Jenner still had a penis. Because Nancy Grace says if that\u2019s the case, then all of this is academic. There\u2019s no transgender anything that\u2019s gone on here. I mean, people run around putting on makeup and long hair and doing hormone shots, but if that woman still has his penis, then what are we talking about here? <\/p>\n

And I don\u2019t know why she thought the media expert at CNN would know, but that\u2019s who she kept drilling. And so that\u2019s what Ray is calling about here. Well, the doctors wait to do that surgery for a year because there\u2019s a lot of stuff that has to happen here, if this is serious. I mean, you\u2019ve gotta go down to DMV, you have to change your birth certificate, you have to do everything. You have to change every bit of paperwork about yourself. And believe me, you don\u2019t want TMZ following you. If you have TMZ following you around during that, this — I don\u2019t know. This whole thing, all of this, there\u2019s something about it that, I don\u2019t know, if you really, really, really, really, really — I\u2019m deciding whether I want to finish my sentence here. He-he-he. <\/p>\n

If you really, really, really want to do this, then why does all of it have to be on TV? It seems to me that you wouldn\u2019t want all the TV around, you\u2019d just want to get this done in private. If really, really, really, really wanted to do this, that you would get it done, you would get it dealt with, \u2019cause it\u2019s who you are. Instead of making this big, ballyhooed, pop culture television episode out of all of it. Anyway, I appreciate the call, Ray. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Here\u2019s Michael in Morristown, New Jersey. I\u2019m glad you waited. Your turn. You\u2019re up next in the EIB Network. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yes, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Long-time listener from your early days here in New York City. First of all, I want to say I think that was brilliant recognition of the Bruce Jenner thing being a political issue. Absolutely correct, in my opinion as well.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Getting back to that Nancy Grace question, asking if Bruce cut it off? It\u2019s kind of a quandary, maybe. Must Bruce cut it off to be defined as a woman? I relate this to the Supreme Court looking at marriage. You know, we\u2019re trying to take gender out of the equation here. Could they possibly…? Could it lead to an invalidation of any law that references gender to avoid discrimination lawsuits? So you could be whatever you want to declare yourself as. You know, “Today I\u2019m a man; tomorrow I\u2019m a woman.” Whatever.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you\u2019re right on the money here because what\u2019s stopping anybody from declaring they want to be anything?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. You had mentioned something about getting driver\u2019s licenses changed. I know in 46 states you have to do the gender reassignment surgery before you can have your birth certificate changed.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: In four states, they don\u2019t say you have to do that. So in those case, maybe those states would have to have their laws overturned. Bruce Jenner has another, more pressing issue I think that you\u2019d relate to. He loses his male golf handicap of 5.3 and he has to play as a woman now and start over from scratch.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you know, people are writing stories, did Bruce Jenner or Caitlyn Jenner win the decathlon? No, no. People are writing this seriously. You know, here\u2019s the thing. If you\u2019re gonna go all-in on something like this, there are gonna be people that take you seriously and react to it. Okay, if you\u2019ve been trending female, if you are female, and you\u2019ve been taking hormones, what were you doing? <\/p>\n

But, you know, this guy Bruce Jenner, won the decathlon in 1976, but now he\u2019s not Bruce Jenner anymore, so who won? People are addressing this stuff in what they think is a deeply serious intellectual fashion. But here\u2019s one for you. I was just asked this. It\u2019s very rare — Michael, I\u2019m sure you\u2019ll understand this — I\u2019m asked a question that I\u2019m stymied by, but I was just asked if Jenner goes ahead and does the chopadickoffamy, which is Nancy Grace\u2019s question. If you missed the beginning of the program, Nancy Grace was asking of the media expert at CNN whether Jenner still had the male organ. And her belief, if he\u2019s still got that, then all this is just BS, he\u2019s not a woman. You cannot be a woman and have a penis.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, there\u2019s no legal definition yet out there. I\u2019ve done a whole bunch of searching, and of course the Internet\u2019s got all the truth, right? <\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you raise an interesting point here about taking gender out of everything. We\u2019re taking gender out of marriage, and now we\u2019re taking gender out of humanity. But the question I got was, okay, if Jenner does go through with this and has the chopadickoffamy procedure then how does the new person have or experience or enjoy sexual gratification, since the mechanism for it is no longer there? Is there something that is surgically attached, implanted to replace it, or not?<\/p>\n

CALLER: And what if they want to be no gender at all? <\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, there\u2019s a place for that on the form.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, again, maybe the states will be prohibited from asserting gender. I know California last year wanted to remove gender altogether from the marriage certificates, so maybe it should be removed from all documentation where you don\u2019t even specify that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I know people are thinking this is crazy, nobody\u2019s doing that. They are, folks. He\u2019s right about what California wants to do, but the funniest or most relevant thing about it to me is why — do you realize the basis for all this is called freedom and liberty and love? The basis, “Well, who are you to say that somebody can\u2019t love somebody else? There\u2019s not enough love in the world anyway. Why do you care who loves who? Why do you care what makes somebody happy?” There\u2019s nothing that\u2019s wrong if somebody really wants to be or do something, and it\u2019s rooted in love and compassion, then nobody\u2019s allowed to say it\u2019s wrong. And that\u2019s the attack. That\u2019s the assault. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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