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RUSH: This is very, very interesting. Snerdley. Did you watch this last night? You…? (interruption) I lifted the ban because it was part of the campaign and the focus was not an MSNBC host or hostette. It\u2019s not a traditional… It was not an MSNBC show per se. It was a special, one-time-only program, a town hall with Trump to counter the town hall going on CNN. Of course I lifted the ban. (interruption) Actually, I didn\u2019t even have to lift the ban for this because I didn\u2019t lift any ban.<\/p>\n

The ban is on the normal, everyday, run-of-the-mill MSNBC programs, but they brought in their morning team to do this thing last night. They didn\u2019t let Chris Matthews anywhere near this. He\u2019s out there probably trying to get on the pope\u2019s plane to thank him, even as we speak. Anyway, Mika Brzezinski (who is the daughter of Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former national security advisor for Jimmy Carter) and Joe Scarborough, conducted a town hall with Trump last night. And this was a… Well, just listen. This is… It got me. I have to tell you, I fell for this, too.<\/p>\n

BRZEZINSKI: I wanted to describe a candidate to you. The candidate is considered a political outsider by all the pundits. He\u2019s tapping into the anger of the voters, delivers a populist message. He believes everyone in the country should have health care, he advocates for hedge fund managers to pay higher taxes, he\u2019s drawing thousands of people at his rallies and bringing in a lot of new voters to the political process, and he\u2019s not beholden to any super PAC. Who am I describing?<\/p>\n

TRUMP: Or any special interests or any donors. You\u2019re describing Donald Trump.<\/p>\n

BRZEZINSKI: Actually, I was describing Bernie Sanders.<\/p>\n

TRUMP: Oh, that\u2019s good. There\u2019s one thing we are very similar on. He knows that our country is being ripped off big league, big league on trade. The problem is, he can\u2019t do anything about it.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: All right, now, folks, I was disagreed with last night on cable TV, and we have the sound bites coming up. Do you remember yesterday — or maybe it might have been Monday or Tuesday. Well, it had to be Monday or Tuesday \u2019cause this is only Wednesday. Remember when Trump went off on George W. Bush in the debate Saturday night and we…? (interruption) This is Thursday? It just makes the case it was either Monday or Tuesday then, because I know it wasn\u2019t yesterday. (chuckles) Anyway, remember I went off on Trump when he went off on Planned Parenthood, in the debate, supporting them. He said they\u2019re great, and he went off on George W. Bush.<\/p>\n

“He knew about 9\/11, didn\u2019t do anything to stop it, didn\u2019t keep us safe. There were no weapons of mass destruction.” Remember all that? And I said, “South Carolina is an open primary; Trump made that move on purpose to try to expand his base, expand his support base since it\u2019s open, either just slam the last nail in the coffin — just wipe this thing out, just end it — or else he believes internal polls that show Cruz catching up, so he\u2019s gotta go out and get new voters somewhere. But I said, in any case, this was the result of strategy.<\/p>\n

Well, last night that theory was discussed by analysts on cable TV, and I was said to be all wet, that that\u2019s not Trump.<\/p>\n

They made it sound like I was making Trump sound diabolical. And it wasn\u2019t diabolical, it was political strategizing, but they think I was saying Trump was being diabolical. I wasn\u2019t. They\u2019re saying, “No, no, no, Trump wasn\u2019t strategizing, he was just speaking from the heart in that debate.” Well, I\u2019m here to tell you that I think he was strategizing in his reaction to this. He has just been told by Mika Brzezinski that there is no difference between him and Bernie Sanders. And what did he do?<\/p>\n

He praised Bernie Sanders. He said the difference in Bernie and me is that Bernie can\u2019t do anything about any of this, and I can. Remember this discussion we had the other day about the political spectrum not being a straight line but a circle? This is exactly what I mean. Both sides, both ends of the spectrum eventually meet at the top of the circle.<\/p>\n

So she throws him a curveball. I fell for it. I thought for sure she\u2019s describing Trump. And then she says no, I actually was talking about Bernie Sanders. And Trump said (paraphrasing), “Well, that\u2019s good. There\u2019s one thing that we\u2019re very similar on. He knows our country is being ripped off big league, big, big league on trade. Problem is he can\u2019t do anything about it.”<\/line><\/p>\n

He did not take the occasion to hammer Bernie Sanders as crazy or anything else. Now, I\u2019m not saying this is strategy because he didn\u2019t know this question was coming, but given the chance to hammer Bernie, he didn\u2019t instinctively hammer Bernie when he was effectively told that there\u2019s not much difference between him and Bernie, in the ways that she described. The ways that she described him as basically their impact on the political scene, not policy differences.<\/p>\n

So don\u2019t misunderstand me here. I\u2019m not saying that Trump is no different than Bernie Sanders. The way she set it up made it look like that. Scarborough then said, “How do you convince a Republican like me, Mr. Trump, that if you were nominated, you\u2019re not gonna nominate the type of Supreme Court justice that always seems to go in there and flip and become a big lib?”<\/p>\n

TRUMP: Okay. So if you look at me as a conservative, okay, and I\u2019m not sure that that\u2019s necessarily the most important word, but I say I\u2019m a common-sense conservative, I\u2019m the most conservative on the border. Nobody tougher than me on the boarder. I\u2019m the strongest on the military, most conservative on the military. We\u2019re gonna get rid of Common Core. I\u2019m very conservative on that issue. Common Core is going. We\u2019re gonna have local education. On the Second Amendment I am absolutely the strongest.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So there\u2019s Trump. He\u2019s been insisting he\u2019s a conservative since the summer. Now that\u2019s not the most important thing. He\u2019s a common-sense conservative. And he says, as you will hear coming up, that he\u2019s gonna have more crossover votes. That\u2019s exactly what I said that he was doing on Saturday night that all these analysts last night told me I was wrong about.<\/p>\n

He\u2019s out there now telling everybody it\u2019s gonna happen. Mika Brzezinski again. “You said that if you knew about bin Laden, why didn\u2019t the government know about him?” Meaning he was a bad guy before he blew us up. “If you knew about it, why didn\u2019t the government, Mr. Trump? It seems like an approach a Democrat would take against a Republican.” She\u2019s talking about the way he went after Bush Saturday night in the debate. And here\u2019s his reaction.<\/p>\n

TRUMP: I will have more crossover votes if I get the nomination. I will have more crossover votes than anybody that\u2019s ever run for office. I will have Democrat votes; I will have independent votes; I will do tremendously with crossover. One other thing, I will have states that nobody ever thought of getting in terms of a Republican.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: It\u2019s exactly what I said. He just admitted it. He says he\u2019s gonna get more Democrats, more independents. I said that he\u2019s going to redraw the electoral map. He\u2019s gonna put Pennsylvania in play. He\u2019s gonna put Wisconsin in play. He\u2019s gonna put Michigan in play. Pennsylvania, I said all this on Monday or Tuesday, \u2019cause this is Thursday. I said this on Monday or Tuesday after pointing out that he had made a move on the left.<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s go to these sound bites. We\u2019re gonna jump forward here, we\u2019re gonna find these bites. Roger Stone is the first one. This is Fox Business Network, After the Bell, this is last night, and David Asman is talking to Roger Stone, who\u2019s a consultant, used to be with Trump, has been with bunch of Republicans. He\u2019s one of the guys that said that I didn\u2019t know what I was talking about. He was not mean about it, just thinks I was wrong about it.<\/p>\n

ASMAN: Rush Limbaugh suggested today that there is a strategy here, that, if Hillary is the nominee for the Democrats, she\u2019s gonna go after Bush\u2019s Iraq war and Bush\u2019s recession, and this is a way of undermining that strategy from Donald Trump. What do you think of that?<\/p>\n

STONE: I just don\u2019t think that Donald Trump is that diabolical. He\u2019s just speaking from the heart. Look, I was there, I was working for him at the inception of the Iraq war. There is no doubt whatsoever he was opposed to it and vocal. And he also believes that the government had numerous tips to our intelligence agencies, the CIA, the NSC, about 9\/11. There\u2019s nothing — there\u2019s nothing diabolical or Machiavellian. Trump merely tells you what he really thinks.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: I didn\u2019t say it was diabolical or Machiavellian. Trump has admitted it anyway. He admitted that what he\u2019s doing here is going for crossover votes. He\u2019s proud of it. He\u2019s gonna have more independents. He\u2019s gonna have more Democrats, and he\u2019s gonna have more states that normally go Democrat, vote Republican. And I said that\u2019s what I thought Saturday night was all about. I don\u2019t think Stone either understood the point that I was making in the clip or was thinking about something. Maybe he thought I was being critical and his instincts are to defend Trump.<\/p>\n

I was not being critical. In a way, I was trying to tell people this guy is not an idiot. He\u2019s not a political neophyte. He\u2019s got serious political advisors in his circle, and I just didn\u2019t think that going after Bush the way he did and defending Planned Parenthood, I didn\u2019t think that that was happenstance. Anyway, after hearing all this, folks, I\u2019m sure you all agree now that I was right.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: What I was saying was that Donald Trump was not out of control in that debate. The additional strategy — look, this is not diabolical. If you know that the Democrats number one target in this upcoming campaign is gonna remain George W. Bush and the Iraq war and torture and weapons of mass destruction and the recession and the current economic plight and ISIS is still George Bush\u2019s fault, my point was that Trump is taking that off the table, taking that ammunition away from Hillary for the general election by doing what he\u2019s doing on this score.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s not diabolical. It\u2019s forward thinking. These guys are just hypersensitive. Whenever they think Trump\u2019s being criticized, then as they have a rote behavior that they engage in. “No, no, no, he\u2019s not a mean guy, no, he\u2019s speaking from the heart.” I didn\u2019t say he wasn\u2019t.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Josh in Brick, New Jersey. It\u2019s great to have you, sir. Hello. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Thank you, Rush. First-time caller, longtime listener. <\/p>\n

RUSH: It\u2019s great you\u2019re here. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Actually, I have two points. The first point is, I believe, and I\u2019d like to know what you think about, had Ted Cruz not been in this primary, would the Republicans even be claiming that they would hold the line and not even take up Obama\u2019s Supreme Court pick? <\/p>\n

RUSH: Hmm. It\u2019s an interesting question, as Tom Brokaw would say. (imitating Brokaw) “Interesting question.” You may have a point that — I think Cruz\u2019s presence does hold their feet to the fire, in a way. But you\u2019ve noticed — <\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s my point. <\/p>\n

RUSH: — there are already signs they\u2019re caving. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes. He did say that he would filibuster that, so that\u2019s gonna put the pressure on them. <\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: What\u2019s your second point? <\/p>\n

CALLER: My second point is this is not about Ted Cruz, but I\u2019m just curious; if Trump loses the Republican primary, forget third-party, why doesn\u2019t he just go on the Democratic ticket, and who knows, he could beat Hillary or Bernie? <\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, because she\u2019s gonna have all the delegates. I just saw a story, she just picked up some more delegates and there hasn\u2019t even been a primary. She can\u2019t see, she can\u2019t sing, she\u2019s barking like a dog, she\u2019s losing in the public polling data, all the excitement was Bernie, Susan Sarandon\u2019s saying I\u2019m through voting with my vagina, which I still would like to see that. I\u2019ve never seen that. She\u2019s gonna vote for Bernie now. And yet Hillary picked up a couple more delegates today. <\/p>\n

How does that happen? But, no, I get your point out there. You know what Josh is saying, he took the circuitous route. Hey, look, if Trump doesn\u2019t win the Republican primary, why doesn\u2019t he just go be the Democrat liberal that he is? That\u2019s what Josh was saying. That\u2019s what he was saying. Don\u2019t think you got that one past me, Josh, old buddy, old pal. I spotted it. And since you didn\u2019t say it that way, I decided to translate what you said, because that\u2019s what you meant. I could hear the sarcasm in his voice. He\u2019s a Cruz guy. Would be only natural that he have some opposition to Trump out there. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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