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\nRUSH: All right, two things —<\/p>\n
RUSH: This is Sal in Cooperstown, New York. It\u2019s great to have you, sir. Hello.<\/p>\n
CALLER: Hey, Rush. Thanks for taking the call. I\u2019m a little nervous so I\u2019ll try to make my point regarding endorsements.<\/p>\n
RUSH: All right.<\/p>\n
CALLER: My opinion is that lately we see the public considering even the so-called true conservatives — the Haleys, the Trey Gowdys in Congress or the Senate — be part of the club, as you call it, or the establishment. And when I hear so many on TV talk about, you know, “Who exactly is the establishment?” For me, it is any candidate that\u2019s going to be indebted to an industry or a company because the candidate has accepted huge donations. And what I\u2019d like to see from the politicians today — and they have an opportunity to make a name for themselves, good or bad — is not worry about what the consequences are going to be endorsing a candidate, \u2019cause there has to be more than a select few that have done so in support of Trump but have not because they\u2019re fearful for their careers. And I think that that just shows that they are silent, that they\u2019re not coming out in support of him, and lastly I think that Trump really… I still question whether he really, really wants this. Because if he really, really does want this position, he can have it with just a few minor tweaks on the things that he does on a daily basis. And so that was my point regarding the endorsements.<\/p>\n
\nRUSH: All right, two things —<\/p>\n
CALLER: (interrupting)<\/p>\n
RUSH: Wait, wait, wait. Don\u2019t go away here. Don\u2019t go away. You said some provocative things. Did I understand you correctly? You mentioned a lot of Republicans would endorse Trump except they\u2019re afraid to?<\/p>\n
CALLER: I do. I think they\u2019re afraid to endorse him because the perception from the Republican Party is that if you\u2019re for Trump… Because they\u2019re doing everything they can to get rid of this man.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n
CALLER: If you\u2019re for him, then you will be looked at by some in the public as bigoted or racist or just too flamboyant or not presidential.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Yeah, but you started off describing this as being establishment related, and you\u2019re on to something there. But that\u2019s not how the establishment operates. But I\u2019ll explain that later.<\/p>\n
CALLER: But here\u2019s a question, then.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Yeah?<\/p>\n
CALLER: If Rubio is out there saying that Trump does not describe his policy and that you can\u2019t get away with that down the road, well, you know what, Mr. Rubio? We\u2019ve asked you so many times, “What\u2019s your stance on immigration?” and your reply is, “Let\u2019s build a wall,” which has been Trump\u2019s motto, and then his response is, “We\u2019ll let the American people decide what they\u2019ll accept.”<\/p>\n
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\nRUSH: Well, but see that\u2019s not —<\/p>\n
CALLER: How is that describing your policy?<\/p>\n
RUSH: Wait, wait. But that\u2019s not right, either. Can you hang on through the break here?<\/p>\n
CALLER: Yeah, of course.<\/p>\n
RUSH: And then will you let me speak and respond when you come back? Because if you will, I\u2019ll let you hang on here.<\/p>\n
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RUSH: Okay, we\u2019re back with Sal from Cooperstown, New York. Sal, about your definition of “the establishment,” you said you consider the establishment to be any Republican takes money from contributors and is going to act on that money in terms of executing policy or what have you. That\u2019s close, but look: In terms of endorsements, the Republican Party is the Republican Party. And, for all intents and purposes, we\u2019re gonna call it “the establishment.” If you\u2019re in the Republican Party, if you\u2019re elected and you want to become more powerful in the Republican Party…<\/p>\n
If you\u2019re gonna climb the ladder of success in the Republican Party, if you\u2019re in the House and you want a committee chairmanship and you want to get part of the leadership eventually (Senate, same thing) you are not gonna endorse Donald Trump. You are going to endorse who the party is officially for, and right now that has become Rubio. It was Jeb; it has become Rubio. If you don\u2019t do that, you may as well forget amounting to anything in the Republican Party. It\u2019d be no different than if you worked for McDonald\u2019s and went out there and publicly endorsed Wendy\u2019s. You\u2019d be finished at McDonald\u2019s! You just… It\u2019s just the way it is. It\u2019s not —<\/p>\n
CALLER: But “we” that are not part of the establishment — we as the public — we finally have a chance, finally have a chance to hire somebody who is not indebted, who is not playing the, “Hey, I better go along with the crowd or I\u2019m not going to get my career change.”<\/p>\n
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\nRUSH: Exactly! But the Republican establishment is not applauding that. They\u2019re scared to death of that. They don\u2019t want any part of that. They don\u2019t want you “hiring” somebody that\u2019s not one of them! And you can\u2019t expect them to get excited that you\u2019re gonna do that, and you can\u2019t expect… They\u2019re gonna fight you left and right, which is exactly what they\u2019re doing, which is why they are in trouble. Look, it goes much deeper than that. But that\u2019s who the establishment is. The establishment is the club that you can\u2019t join.<\/p>\n
You can\u2019t apply for it. There\u2019s no application. You don\u2019t go, “Hey, I want to join this club.” You can run for office, you can become a lobbyist, but you can\u2019t get in there on merit. It has to be connections and then merit takes over. It\u2019s a closed club. You can\u2019t fly to Augusta, Georgia, go to the clubhouse at Augusta National, and say, “I want to become a member.” It doesn\u2019t work that way in any club of elites. And, by the way, let me tell you something else Al Sharpton said, and he is more right than he may know. Donald Trump is from Queens.<\/p>\n
He has never been accepted by the elites of Manhattan, despite what he\u2019s done. Trump\u2019s dad, Fred Trump, was from Queens. Trump was born in Queens. These clubs, when you\u2019re talking about elites and these super high achievers or whatever, however they got there, they are really exclusive and exclusionary. And Trump has never been welcomed into that group of elites that make up Manhattan powerbrokers, be they in real estate or politics or anything else.<\/p>\n
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\nNow, that\u2019s not to say that he doesn\u2019t run around with \u2019em. It\u2019s not to say that he doesn\u2019t go to dinner with them. It not to say that he doesn\u2019t socialize. But he\u2019s not one of them. And it has propelled him and motivated him to build taller buildings, to become more famous, to become a bigger personality than any of them combined, because he\u2019s not admitted. Now, this is not something that bugs him. He doesn\u2019t run around feeling… I\u2019m having a mental block on the…<\/p>\n
He has no insecurities about this or inferiority complex. It\u2019s just the way it is. So he\u2019s in battle with \u2019em now in politics. He\u2019s not in that club. He\u2019s not one of those elites. He\u2019s from Queens. He\u2019s not from Manhattan. He\u2019s never been accepted in the Manhattan crowd. It\u2019s really tiny and small. You don\u2019t get accepted by moving there and becoming a success there. I mean, unless it takes years and years and years and years. But one of the hallmarks of elite clubs like this, no matter where you find them — and they exist in every town.<\/p>\n
Every city, every town has its own elite structure, the people that run the show. And if you\u2019re in it, you\u2019re in it. If you\u2019re not, and if you want to be, you\u2019re gonna spend your life in disappointment. Trump has decided that he\u2019s going to do everything he\u2019s done despite them while not becoming accepted by them or one of them and so forth. And the same thing is playing out here in politics. And I think it\u2019s one of the things that does motivate him in a sense, like it would motivate anybody else. So when it comes to endorsements?<\/p>\n
The Republican Party, if you\u2019re in it and you\u2019ve run for office and if you have accepted “help” (i.e., money) from the RNC or the Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee or the House Campaign Committee… Both the House and the Senate, Republican and Democrat, have a group whose purpose is to make sure every elected Republican stays elected and new ones get elected. And every year the leader changes. It\u2019s always an elected official that chairs it up. And what they say to you is…<\/p>\n
Let\u2019s say you\u2019re a freshman. You\u2019ve gotten elected and you come in and they bring you in. “What do you want to do here?” And you tell \u2019em, “Well, I want to be on this committee, this committee.” And they tell you what you have to do to get it, and that is, “Do what we say. You vote the way we tell you on legislation. You don\u2019t say what we don\u2019t want you to say. You say what we want you to say. Do it for enough times that we can trust you, and you might get on that committee you want to someday be chairman of it. If you violate it, if you go outside…”<\/p>\n
In this case like you described, if somebody in this situation goes out and endorses Trump, they are finished. They may be reelected every year, but they\u2019re finished. They are nonpersons inside the party. It\u2019s made miserable for them. They don\u2019t want to stay. Luis Gutierrez (Democrat-Illinois) admitted all of this, that it also exists on the Democrat side. That\u2019s why you\u2019re not gonna have a whole lot of these people, at this stage, endorsing Trump.<\/p>\n
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\nNow, when we get a nominee, then all of this changes. And then party loyalty rears its head. But in this case, even then we\u2019re gonna have to be some split factions because there are going to be some in this elite Republican group who are gonna vote for Hillary and they\u2019re gonna say so rather than vote for Trump. They\u2019ve already done so. There are already unnamed… They have been quoted as anonymous elected Republicans saying they\u2019re gonna vote for Hillary instead of Trump if he\u2019s the nominee.<\/p>\n
They can\u2019t stand this, because Trump blows up their elite status. Trump blows up the club. Trump demonstrates you don\u2019t have to be in the club to get anywhere. The elites and the clubs rely on one thing — well, many things, but one thing to ensure loyalty, and that is you can\u2019t climb the ladder without being a member. Okay, so Trump gets the nomination. They can\u2019t let this guy become president. It just demonstrates that their club\u2019s not needed! That\u2019s where the Republican Party is in this whole primary right now, folks.<\/p>\n
Everything happening in this primary is showing that that the Republican Party… Their chosen guy, Jeb Bush? He spent $115 million. Four points! Four or five points. Now they moved on to Rubio. The question ought to be: Why now Rubio? Why not Rubio at the beginning? If you like Jeb, what is this really about? Are you signing onto Rubio \u2019cause you really like Rubio\u2019s ideas or is he the next guy up in the club? And the answer is: “He\u2019s the next guy up in the club.” They hate Cruz. Cruz is exactly what I just described.<\/p>\n
Cruz has gone up against \u2019em. He\u2019s done it publicly.<\/p>\n
He\u2019s done it on the floor of the Senate.<\/p>\n
He\u2019s challenged the leadership as a bunch of lying snitches. He doesn\u2019t have a future there, and he knows it. And they\u2019re not gonna help him. And that\u2019s why when Trump runs out and says basically defamatory things, the Republicans are not coming to Cruz\u2019s rescue. “He\u2019s getting what he deserves. He went up against the club, he went up against the elites, and this is what he deserves. He\u2019s getting his!” That\u2019s the way they look at it. Now, as to your other thing about if Trump really wants this, Sal, would you tell me…? What did you say? If Trump really wanted this, he would modify things he\u2019s saying? What do you mean by that?<\/p>\n
CALLER: What I mean by that is when he starts hearing that if he adds up the votes, he just comes out and says on TV, “I\u2019m gonna get some of those votes.” But if he looked at the camera and said to those voters, “Hey, guys, I know you have loyalty to such-and-such, but let me earn your vote, let me show you. Yeah, I\u2019m loud, maybe flamboyant, et cetera, but I am the hardest working individual on this stage and I want your vote.” Ask for my vote. Don\u2019t assume that just because my guy drops out that I\u2019m coming your way. And those are the little things that he can do that doesn\u2019t compromise his principles or compromise —<\/p>\n
RUSH: Wait a minute. You\u2019re saying that if he really wants this he\u2019s gotta make some modifications. Are you worried that he really doesn\u2019t want to win this?<\/p>\n
CALLER: There are times where I look and hear the things he says and say, “Come on, Donald, you know better than that. That this cheap like American public, they\u2019re very easily persuaded by things that are said not only by you, but how the media portrays it.” And if he would just tweak things here and there like —<\/p>\n
RUSH: Why should he? Sal, wait a minute. Hear me on this. Why should he tweak anything? He went out there and said, “I could commit murder on Fifth Avenue and my voters wouldn\u2019t leave me.” And he was right. And the media had a cow. The media can\u2019t believe he\u2019s still alive and breathing. The media thought he\u2019d be dead back on June 20th, three days after he announced. I mean, your theory that he doesn\u2019t really want to win this because he\u2019s out saying outrageous things guaranteed to cause people some concern and not vote for him, we\u2019re way past that.<\/p>\n
CALLER: But if he could just tweak a couple things to guarantee an ultimate win, isn\u2019t winning the ultimate goal here?<\/p>\n
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\nRUSH: Yeah, and I think — yes. I was going to offer an opinion. Yes, of course it is. But you think he might be trying to lose it.<\/p>\n
CALLER: No, I\u2019m not thinking he\u2019s trying to lose it. I\u2019m just thinking that him being himself to some people in America that truly don\u2019t see through it all might be persuaded —<\/p>\n
RUSH: Let me ask you this. Forget what you said about how he could appeal to voters instead of assume he\u2019s gonna get \u2019em. Does it bother you at all that he\u2019s out there just saying this really, really defamatory stuff about Ted Cruz, calling him a liar and a nut and crazy, waving the Bible and he doesn\u2019t really believe all this religious stuff \u2019cause he wouldn\u2019t be holding the Bible while lying the way he does, does that bother with you? Does that kind of stuff, what he says about other candidates, bother you?<\/p>\n
CALLER: From the topic of why he\u2019s doing it, no, but why I am bothered by it is if he keeps these two candidates, Rubio and Cruz, in the race, right to the end, I\u2019m convinced that he can win it. So I don\u2019t want Rubio or Cruz to drop out. I want them to stay in it and continuously get their 20%, let him get his 40, and that will get him to where he needs to get to. If one of those two decide to drop out then I\u2019m gonna have to worry about something else. Whether it happens or not is another story, but it is something to talk about.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Fascinating. All right, good. I\u2019ve gotta take a break. We gotta process that, \u2019cause we got a genuine Trumpist here, folks. Got to process that.<\/p>\n
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