{"id":3939,"date":"2016-03-14T16:37:05","date_gmt":"2016-03-14T16:37:05","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2017-06-28T10:26:06","modified_gmt":"2017-06-28T14:26:06","slug":"if_trump_wins_florida_and_ohio_it_ll_be_trump_vs_cruz_and_it_won_t_be_over","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2016\/03\/14\/if_trump_wins_florida_and_ohio_it_ll_be_trump_vs_cruz_and_it_won_t_be_over\/","title":{"rendered":"If Trump Wins Florida and Ohio, It\u2019ll Be Trump vs. Cruz — And It Won\u2019t Be Over"},"content":{"rendered":"

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RUSH: Hey, hey, hey, how you doing, folks? It\u2019s great to be here chomping at the bit all day yesterday for this moment in time to arrive. That\u2019s right, at the beginning of yet another excursion into broadcast excellence hosted by me, Rush Limbaugh. We\u2019re here at 800-282-2882. The e-mail address, ElRushbo@eibnet.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m just gonna give a brief overview of some things here and then as the program unfolds we\u2019ll get into it in great detail. The primaries tomorrow, do not overlook Illinois and Missouri. They are going to be important, but as far as Florida and Ohio are concerned, the polling data now has Marco Rubio in third place. The latest CBS poll, Rubio in third place in Florida.<\/p>\n


\nTrump has canceled an appearance that was scheduled for tonight at Trump Doral down in Miami and instead has scheduled an event for Youngstown, Ohio. That\u2019s because there are two polls on Ohio out there, and one of them Kasich is ahead by six, and in another they are tied 33-33. My preference is that Trump win Florida and Ohio.<\/p>\n

Have you heard what Kasich did today? I\u2019m gonna tell you what\u2019s happening here, folks. Kasich has come out full-throated, 100 percent for amnesty<\/a>. He is talking like Jeb Bush talks about amnesty and the illegal immigrants as gifts from God or some such thing. And he has made it clear. What\u2019s going on here, the establishment has one last great hope, and that\u2019s Kasich winning in Ohio and they\u2019re sending Kasich out there, or maybe he\u2019s doing it on his own, but he is full-throated, promising amnesty in 100 days, if he\u2019s elected president, which he\u2019s not gonna be. But if he\u2019s elected president within the first hundred days we\u2019re gonna get comprehensive immigration reform, amnesty.<\/p>\n

The establishment is lining up behind him. The reason is obvious. If Kasich wins Ohio, which is what the smart money thinks is gonna happen now, that\u2019s why Kasich\u2019s gone all-in on amnesty, which I think could kill it, frankly, plus wait \u2019til Ohioans find out he voted for NAFTA. Trade deals are one of Trump\u2019s big strong suits and Trump\u2019s been pounding that in his trips to Ohio. Anyway, by going all-in for amnesty with the support of the establishment, if Kasich wins Ohio, and the smart money says he will, that means the establishment could run around on Wednesday saying, “See? See? The mainstream Republican Party position is for comprehensive immigration reform, and they will use that however they use that all the way from here until the convention in Cleveland in July.”<\/p>\n

Now, even if Kasich wins Ohio, he\u2019s mathematically eliminated from winning the nomination in the primaries. He cannot get the 1,237 even if he wins Ohio. If he loses it, it\u2019s not even close. If he wins, I mean, he\u2019d have to do something impossible like win 75% of all the delegates remaining throughout all of the states. But that doesn\u2019t matter. He\u2019s gonna stay in. I think if he loses Ohio he\u2019s gonna stay in, and he\u2019s going to stay in because the last great hope that the establishment has is for a contested convention.<\/p>\n


\nNow, I don\u2019t mean to imply that Kasich\u2019s said something brand-new about amnesty; he hasn\u2019t denied it. He\u2019s still all-in on the promise and on the subject. The most recent reporting on Kasich is some weeks ago, but it\u2019s been highlighted here today as that\u2019s one of the things that he has been campaigning on and making a big deal of. So if you want this to be a two-man race — because if you look at all of this polling data, I mean, here\u2019s the way to look at this. Look at — pick Florida, pick Ohio, I don\u2019t care which. You\u2019ve got Trump at whatever number he\u2019s at, and then everybody else equals vastly greater than Trump, everybody combined.<\/p>\n

Now, the theory is that a majority of votes that are currently for Cruz, for Rubio, for Kasich, a majority would go to Cruz. Not all of them. Some would go to Trump, but you would have to say by common sense not a majority or they\u2019d already be with Trump. So within the Republican primary voting sector there would appear to be a greater number of people opposed to Trump than for him, but it\u2019s never going to manifest itself if Kasich and Rubio — it\u2019s hard to say what Rubio, I mean Rubio could stay in, too. I don\u2019t mean to leave him out of the conversation, but Rubio is now targeted to come in third place in his own state.<\/p>\n

So Kasich seems to be the focus here. And I don\u2019t think he\u2019s going to get out no matter what happens. If he wins Ohio he\u2019s definitely not gonna get out. But I think if he loses it, he will probably stay in, too, but it would be a much tougher sell. Now, let\u2019s go further. I\u2019m going to put some things out there for you to think about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I\u2019m gonna get to the violence business. That\u2019s not hard to analyze. I mean, everybody\u2019s getting that wrong, and it\u2019s being led by the Drive-Bys and, sadly, some Republicans. But, yeah, we\u2019ll get to it. Just hang in there, be tough. Be patient. Can\u2019t do it all in the first monologue segment.<\/p>\n

The Cruz people really believe they can get to 1,237. But if they can\u2019t they really believe they can, if things fall right, they can end up with more delegates than Trump. So they believe they can go into Cleveland with a greater number of delegates than Trump has but still not enough to get 1,237, in which case they would argue that they should be the nominee because they have more delegates and more votes than anybody else, and to deny them would cause chaos. And Trump will say the same thing if he doesn\u2019t get to 1,237. But the GOP rules committee has yet to meet. There\u2019s another rules meeting coming up in April where they can change, do anything they want.<\/p>\n

So we\u2019re by no means over this thing. And that\u2019s gonna be something that I think everybody needs to keep in mind after tomorrow. There are going to be powerful forces in all media that will attempt to convince as many people as possible that it\u2019s over after tomorrow. I\u2019m talking about on the Republican side, that it\u2019s all over but the shouting, particularly if Trump wins Florida and Ohio, the drumbeat\u2019s going to be that it\u2019s over. But it isn\u2019t going to be over.<\/p>\n


\nThere are still a lot of states yet to come. There\u2019s still a lot of voting yet to be done, and it will not be over after tomorrow. And that\u2019s gonna be something I think the Cruz people are gonna be fighting. Regardless what happens in Ohio, whether Kasich wins it or not, the idea that the whole thing is over… In fact, here\u2019s the way to look at it. If Trump does pull Ohio out and wins Florida as well, they\u2019re really… The Trump people are gonna be leading the charge. “It\u2019s over; that\u2019s it. “It might be better,” they\u2019ll say. “Maybe just get out let\u2019s unify now.<\/p>\n

“Let\u2019s start the long process of unifying.” Cruz will not get out, because it\u2019s in Cruz\u2019s best interests for Trump to win Florida and Ohio. It\u2019s in Cruz\u2019s best interests for Kasich to lose and to have no reason to stay in. If Kasich wins Ohio, there\u2019s a reason to stay in. There really isn\u2019t, other than to take it all the way out to a contested convention. Why, in Kasich\u2019s mind, he could be the chosen one if the Republican convention doesn\u2019t want either trump or Cruz. And all of that hinges on number getting to 1,237.<\/p>\n

So Kasich… The thrust of Trump\u2019s campaign is that Kasich voted for NAFTA, very much in support. Trade deals have become almost item number one on Trump appearances. It\u2019s actually kind of interesting, I mean, to watch all this shake out. You follow Trump\u2019s appearances and look at his talking points from state to state to state. They don\u2019t vary much, but these trade deals are right at the top. And they get a lion\u2019s share of the reaction from Trump\u2019s crowds. So the Republican establishment — the entire Washington establishment — is, I think, facing an awakening.<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t think they realize just how deeply rooted and widely believed it is that these trade deals have destroyed the American middle class are. I think they thought there was, you know, the usual anti-NAFTA crowd out there. They\u2019re thought of as a bunch of conspiracy kooks, but they\u2019ve never been considered to be a significant number of both Republican and Democrat voters, and apparently that\u2019s not the case. There\u2019s a significant number of people supporting Trump. You can even make the case, I think, that Trump and Crazy Bernie\u2019s crowds really are one thing more powerfully than they are either in support of Bernie or Trump.<\/p>\n

And that is they\u2019re anti-establishment. I think it\u2019s huge, the number of Americans livid with Washington for years, folks, not just the last four, five, seven, eight, 10. I think it\u2019s for decades. I think tracing all the way back to the nineties, there was an increasing — \u2019cause if you look at the middle class, it has not gotten better. It hasn\u2019t gotten better economically. Wages have not increased significantly. I\u2019ve been through this drill before. You can see what happened. What has happened to the college education?<\/p>\n

It was the one way out. The one supposedly as-close-to-a-guarantee-as-anything-can-be step up the ladder of success, has become a weight or a shackle because of the debt you incur in getting one. So even that — and who runs the colleges and who runs the banks and who runs the loan programs and who sets the tuition? It\u2019s the establishment guys. And many in the middle class think that there\u2019s been an active… Not conspiracy, I don\u2019t think. There probably has been one, but the word can connote some things I don\u2019t intend it to.<\/p>\n

But there has been an active effort by people, they believe, to keep them from being able to improve themselves economically in their lives and they\u2019ve just had it, because they see all kinds of wealth. They saw all kinds of wealth. I mean, they don\u2019t understand. Every hedge fund guy is a multibillionaire. How does that work? They don\u2019t understand it. It doesn\u2019t make any sense to them. How does that work? Why is a hedge fund guy automatically a billionaire? Why do the hedge fund guys make $12 billion, $10 billion, $2 billion, and not $500,000? Where\u2019s all this money coming from? The banks get bailed out when the banks screw up their own businesses.<\/p>\n


\nThey don\u2019t get bailed out. So I think the anger\u2019s deep, and it\u2019s sustained, and it\u2019s being tapped into expertly by Trump. But it does not, apparently, represent a majority of Republican primary voters. It\u2019s just the most energized and the most animated. The Cruz people also have something else to be concerned about, I think. I could be all wet on this. If the race piddles itself down to we\u2019ve got two-man race, Trump and Cruz, I think the Cruz campaign\u2019s a little concerned that endorsements for them by some in the establishment could hurt them with their voters. For example, if you\u2019re…<\/p>\n

What do you think of this, Snerdley? Let\u2019s say you\u2019re an all-in Cruz voter, and Kasich ends up not continuing after tomorrow, and gets down to a two-man race. It\u2019s basically Trump and Cruz, and here comes, say, Lindsey Graham endorsing Cruz. I mean, he\u2019s an establishment guy. Cruz people will say, “Oh no! That\u2019s not what we want! Oh no! Please, wait, we don\u2019t need it right now.” Then let\u2019s say… Oh, pick a name. Any elected Republican name that\u2019s considered to be establishment. Mitch McConnell would never do it, but imagine if he did.<\/p>\n

The Cruz people have to be worried that that could taint their own voters. So this is gonna be a big week for the Cruz campaign to get through because there\u2019s gonna be all kinds of misinformation about it. And the leading bit of misinformation is going to be that — whatever happens tomorrow, Wednesday, the news is going to be that — it\u2019s, for all intents and purposes, over. And the Cruz campaign is not going anywhere, and they\u2019re not quitting.<\/p>\n

They do not think it\u2019s over — and, in fact, they have a pathway to victory, one of two ways. Kasich is the wild card, depending on what happens in Ohio, and Trump is going to do whatever he can to win there. As I say, he\u2019s canceling an appearance in Florida tonight, rescheduling it for one in Youngstown, where he\u2019s gonna hammer Kasich. I think Trump could put himself over the top if he would just use my line. Just say that he\u2019s got a job for Kasich, postmaster general, and everybody will be happy.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Let\u2019s review so that we keep things in perspective and focused here. In Florida, CBS News\/Battleground Tracker Polls. Here we go, Florida: “Trump at 24, Cruz 24, Rubio 21. In the CBS poll, Rubio is in third place in Florida. However, Rubio people in Florida say, “Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. There\u2019s a whole bunch of early voting that\u2019s going on down here, 1.1 million early votes, and we could get the lion\u2019s share of those. So don\u2019t rule us out here.” Yesterday in Iowa there are two different polls. There\u2019s Quinnipiac and a Monmouth poll.<\/p>\n


\nIn one of the polls, Trump and Kasich are tied, and in another one Kasich is up by six. Both Trump and Cruz have made adjustments to their schedules and are doing events in Ohio today that were not originally planned. Trump had an event planned for Trump Dural down in Miami that he has canceled and instead going to Youngstown. Cruz was going to be spend a large part of the day in North Carolina, which is very… You know, North Carolina, Illinois, and Missouri are also big. They\u2019re not getting talked about a lot.<\/p>\n

But you keep an eye on Illinois and Missouri as the results get reported tomorrow, too. Because Florida\u2019s pretty much a known quantity. Ohio? I\u2019ll tell you why Ohio is the focus and I\u2019ll tell you why Cruz and Trump are going back there. They want Kasich out of the race. Trump wants to win Ohio. Trump thinks if he wins Ohio and wins Florida, that that is, for all intents and purposes, it; that he can create a narrative that it\u2019s over. It\u2019s all over but the shouting, that nobody else has a prayer of getting anywhere near 1,237.<\/p>\n

So he wants Kasich out. Cruz wants Kasich out for different reason. If Kasich stays… See, Kasich — no matter if he wins Ohio or loses it — is mathematically eliminated. And I realize there are a lot of you in Ohio who like your governor, and I realize many of you in Ohio like Kasich. But the fact of the matter is that if he wins or loses, he\u2019s mathematically eliminated, particularly if he loses. But either way, it\u2019s history. But if he wins, he\u2019s gonna stay in. If he wins, he\u2019s going to stay in because he wants a contested convention.<\/p>\n

He doesn\u2019t want anybody getting to 1,237 before they get to Cleveland and the convention because he wants to be able to benefit from a contested convention. This may be a (oh, what would you call it?) a fusion candidate, somebody that they go to when none of the other two can put together a majority. Whatever. It\u2019s a long shot — and plus, just screwing things up. If he could do that, it\u2019s a feather in his cap, history books, all that. He\u2019d love to do it. Cruz wants him out because, as far as the Cruz campaign\u2019s concerned, their biggest challenge…<\/p>\n

By the way, Cruz won a couple other primaries over the weekend. He won Wyoming and got nine delegates. Trump got one. And there was one other place. Colorado. Was it Colorado? They were both congressional district primaries, and they were small. They weren\u2019t covered. Anyway, Cruz won both of them. So he\u2019s creeping up. He\u2019s like 90 delegates behind Trump. The biggest objective the Cruz campaign has is fighting the narrative that it\u2019s over. This is going to be a very big week for the Cruz campaign, given that perception is reality in politics.<\/p>\n


\nThe Trump people are gonna be doing everything they can to suggest it\u2019s over either way. If Trump wins only Florida of Florida and Ohio… Remember, there\u2019s four or five states tomorrow, but the big ones that everybody\u2019s talking about are Florida and Ohio. So if Trump wins Florida, he and his allies in the media are gonna be trying to make the case that it\u2019s all over but the shouting. If Trump wins both — which is what Cruz wants, by the way. This is the key. Cruz needs Trump to win both to get rid of Kasich.<\/p>\n

That solidifies all of the anti-Trump support around Cruz and sets up a two-man race. The Cruz people really believe that they can win a plurality of delegates in a two-man race if Kasich gets out. But Kasich has to lose Ohio. And that means Trump has to win it because there\u2019s no way Cruz is going to. See, the biggest thing the Cruz people have to fight is the perception that it\u2019s over, which will be the reporting starting late Tuesday night and all day into Wednesday. So this is gonna be a big week for them to get through, because it will not be over.<\/p>\n

But everybody on the Trump side and a lot of other media will be trying to say that it is. So it\u2019s interesting the way things are shaping up here, and with both Trump and Cruz rescheduling events to go into Ohio, they both have the same interests there: Kasich losing. (interruption) That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right. Marco won one. It was Wyoming. It was… No, no. I mentioned Wyoming. What\u2019s the second one? (interruption) Oh, that\u2019s right. And that\u2019s where… Oh, yeah, Marco swept Washington, DC.<\/p>\n

Well, that\u2019s where the establishment guys are supposed to do well: In Washington. Just kidding. You know, it\u2019s a shame. I said this Friday. I said, “It\u2019s a shame about Rubio. If it weren\u2019t for that Gang of Eight, he would be perceived and looked at entirely differently. That Gang of Eight thing did so much damage. I mean, justifiably, but nevertheless it did so much damage.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: I gotta get Glenn in here from Youngstown, Ohio, before we have to go today. Hi, Glenn. Welcome to the program.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. A longtime listener and first-time caller.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay. My comment was, you know, this Kasich? I wouldn\u2019t walk across the street to one of his rallies. I mean, there\u2019s just no enthusiasm there.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a minute. He\u2019s your governor.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. I realize, and I voted for him for governor, but, to be honest with you, they had a rally in Hanoverton, Ohio, and they set up a tent outside that would hold about 500 people. Well, they only had 400 people in the tent. There\u2019s just nothing there. Nobody is coming to his rallies, that I\u2019ve seen, on TV.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, he just had one with Mitt Romney. He just had… Mitt Romney\u2019s out there speaking at rallies with Kasich.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You know, I supported Mitt, and I\u2019m really ashamed of him coming out against the —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Has not been helpful. But, you know, look, I know what you\u2019re saying. I shouldn\u2019t say this \u2019cause people are gonna misunderstand it. But, you know, I watch Governor Kasich in these rallies, and he talks about all the great things that he\u2019s done in Ohio and all the great things that are happening there, and I\u2019m wondering: Why isn\u2019t everybody moving there? Don\u2019t misunderstand. But he\u2019s telling stories about this overwhelming success and revitalizing communities and getting rid of rotten culture and whatever else and all this job creation and stuff. I mean, it sounds like utopia.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m out of time, folks. I gotta go but we\u2019ll wrap it up here in just a second.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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