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<\/p>\nBRETT: Are you gonna take it? Depends. I\u2019m Brett Winterble, your guide today on the EIB Network. Dee Snider. That\u2019s Twisted Sister right there, “We\u2019re Not Gonna Take It.” Dee Snider is pushing back on cancel culture. He thinks it\u2019s twisted. (See? See what I did there?) Last week, former Twisted Sister frontman Dee Snider was on with Ashleigh Banfield on NewsNation\u2019s Banfield.<\/p>\n
She said, “I want to get your take a little bit on cancel culture these days.” Dee is talking about way back when, when he testified on Capitol Hill in the 1980s, for the PMRC, the Parents Music Resource Center. Here\u2019s what Dee Snider said.<\/p>\n
SNIDER: It\u2019s censorship, and, ummm, censorship has changed quite a bit. I mean, you go to when I was in Washington testifying — and by the way, it was a bipartisan effort. It was Democrat and Republicans who were joined together in, you know, putting a leash on rock ‘n\u2019 roll. But it was definitely a conservative attitude. It was a more conservative attitude wanting to censor music. Now censorship still exists, but it\u2019s gone from the right more to the left, where we\u2019re in this PC World where we have to be careful about what we say and who we offend, and it\u2019s a very odd thing.<\/p>\n
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BRETT: You know, it\u2019s really an incredible thing because if you talk to any of the folks — I lived in Los Angeles for a long time, and I got to know musicians there in the city. When you speak to musicians, especially professional musicians who earn a living, the increase in taxation, the increase in regulation — and the attack on Gibson guitars, by the way, that the Obama administration ran for a couple of years — really flipped a lot of musicians out of the mode of being, you know, kind of Marxist, left-wing, hippie types into being defenders of the First Amendment.<\/p>\n
You have to remember, it\u2019s an important time in the 1980s. Algore\u2019s wife, Tipper Gore, ran the PMRC, the Parents Music Resource Center. I remember those days very well, remember those hearings very well. In fact, when Dee Snider testified, he didn\u2019t bring in like a binder or a sheet of paper. He did the old trick from high school where he had folded up his remarks on a piece of notebook paper that was in the back pocket of his blue jeans. (laughing)<\/p>\n
He did the thing where he pulled it out and he unfolded it and took like, you know, 15, 30 seconds to enrolled the paper to read the statement into the record. I mean, these guys understand what happens when the politically correct crowd comes in and tries to put you out of business. It\u2019s very serious. And it\u2019s alternative and all that that these folks on the left want to claim to be.<\/p>\n
They\u2019re not. They\u2019re not. They\u2019re not your friends. They\u2019re about control, and they\u2019re about power. Look at Big Tech. You look at what Big Tech is doing out there, with their influence, right? Once upon a time, “Oh, Silicon Valley, we\u2019re alternative! We\u2019re alternative. We\u2019re just a bunch of, you know, people trying to create power for the people with the internet. Yeah, that\u2019s us.”<\/p>\n
That\u2019s not the case. Facebook has been censoring like maniacs. Chelsea Clinton wants Tucker censored off of Facebook! Facebook removed the story of the New York Post publishing about the $3.2 million real estate spending spree of the BLM cofounder, Patricia Khan-Cullors. It\u2019s the third time the social media giant did this to the Post in the past year.<\/p>\n
They did it on the Hunter stuff, and now they\u2019ve done it on this information, saying, “Well, we don\u2019t want to talk about the fact that one of the leaders, one of the founders of the Black Lives Matter global network, spent $3.2 million on real estate.” Now, I don\u2019t know where she got the money. I\u2019m not saying she got it in an inappropriate way. She\u2019s got media deals with YouTube and development deals with different websites.<\/p>\n
She could be a consultant on a number of projects. I don\u2019t count other people\u2019s money. I\u2019m not sitting here counting another person\u2019s money. What I\u2019m taking umbrage with is a discussion that has begun about her owning all this real estate despite the fact that she has declared herself a Marxist. It\u2019s very consistent, by the way, with Marxism and communism.<\/p>\n
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Because we know that during the Soviet era it was very popular to have, you know, your fancy apartment as part of the Communist Party in Moscow. And then you had dachas out there around the countryside where you would go to your summer getaway or your weekend getaway and laugh at the proletariat who were suffering in toilet paper and pantyhose lines.<\/p>\n
So this isn\u2019t about a particular group, Black Lives Matter. This is not about a particular person. It\u2019s actually about the censorship effort by Big Tech, which is disturbing in the extreme. But they\u2019ve got their own standard, and that standard is whatever they decide the standard is going to be that day. And that\u2019s what is so vitally important about that entire conversation.<\/p>\n
There is no set standard. It\u2019s a living, breathing standard. But like feeding a dragon, the dragon is going to get more aggressive the more you work to try to appease it. There is no appeasing Twitter. There is no appeasing Google. There is no appeasing Facebook, any of these products. You cannot appease them.<\/p>\n
Cancel culture is it. That\u2019s what they\u2019re going for. They want to be the ultimate arbiters. It\u2019s the one thing that drives them craziest, by the way: Talk radio. ‘Cause they can\u2019t do it. They can\u2019t break us, because we are talking directly to the people and the people are talking to us. The numbers have never been better. The numbers have been great.<\/p>\n
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BRETT: I heard a terrific phone call here on the program yesterday. I listen to the show every single day, and it is wonderful to be here right now with you. I heard a great call from a woman who had called in. Her name escapes me at this point. But she was asking what wokeism was. She was saying, “What is this wokeism thing? What is woke? I don\u2019t know what that phrase means. It\u2019s new to me.”<\/p>\n
How do we explain this? Well, woke is everywhere in the culture right now, right? There are professors who are rejecting calls to resign after rebuking his woke university. There are all-new approaches towards woke and wokeness. Rush broke this down beautifully with Barack and Michelle Obama on wokeness and whiteness.<\/a><\/p>\n RUSH: Obama has come out against wokeness, and Michelle Obama said (paraphrased), “You know what? I don\u2019t think it\u2019s possible. I can\u2019t convince white people that black people are okay and nice. I just can\u2019t do it. I\u2019d have to show up every day for 15 hours a day. I don\u2019t think I can do it. I cannot convince white people that black people are okay and not mean and bad.” And Obama has come out and said, “I don\u2019t care how woke you are, that\u2019s not activism.”<\/p>\n <\/div>\n