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RUSH: Again, if you\u2019re just joining us here, it is apparent, well, it\u2019s not apparent. It\u2019s abundantly clear that the Republican establishment, all these reports we\u2019ve had prior to today about them being in panic have not even gotten close to reality. The panic is real today. They are acting as though their own very future is at stake today. And they have decided that the future of the Republican Party, as you know it and love it, hangs on what happens in Ohio. Meaning John Kasich, in their view, had better win this thing.<\/p>\n


\nNow, keep in mind Kasich doesn\u2019t have a prayer of becoming the nominee. He doesn\u2019t have a prayer. If John Kasich thinks he\u2019s gonna become the nominee in a contested convention, he\u2019s got another thing coming. If it gets to that point, can I tell you who I think they\u2019re gonna make president, or make the nominee, if all this happens, as they want it to? Remember, now, we\u2019ve got a guy on the Republican committee, convention committee rules committee writing today in The Daily Caller <\/a>that first ballot delegates are not bound to vote for the candidate that won their state\u2019s primaries.<\/p>\n

Everybody\u2019s thinking that that\u2019s the rule, that on the first ballot, that\u2019s why primaries matter, that\u2019s why this matter of 1,237 delegates matters. Whoever gets there is automatically the nominee. This guy writes a piece today saying, no, no, no, no. That that that that\u2019s not the case. Delegates can vote whoever they want, on any ballot. Oh, really? He says \u201976 is the only time this was actually put into — \u201976, yeah, that\u2019s when they denied Reagan. So I\u2019m just telling you, if they succeed in this, if they sucked in denying Trump or Ted Cruz 1,237 delegates by the end of the primary process, I\u2019m here to tell you Jeb Bush is gonna be the nominee. That\u2019s what they\u2019re gonna do. That\u2019s what they\u2019ve always wanted.<\/p>\n

And Jeb himself said back on December 14th of 2014 when this whole process started Jeb said that his strategy was to lose the primaries and win the nomination. And everybody said, “What? How you gonna do that?” And the answer we got, money. He\u2019s gonna outspend everybody. He\u2019s gonna whittle the field. He\u2019s gonna show the rest of the field they can\u2019t compete with him financially. He\u2019s gonna split the conservative vote by having all these conservatives in the race, they\u2019re not gonna have a prayer, and Jeb\u2019s gonna be the coalition favorite. He\u2019s gonna have all the money, and that\u2019s that.<\/p>\n

And what they meant was Jeb\u2019s gonna win the nomination without having to kowtow to Republican Tea Party base voters, meaning Jeb\u2019s not gonna have to talk about abortion. Jeb\u2019s not gonna have to talk about immigration. Jeb\u2019s not gonna have to talk about any of these things that matter. He\u2019s gonna win the nomination nevertheless. And it may well yet happen. If not Jeb, they\u2019ll go Romney. But if Kasich thinks it\u2019s gonna be him — and I don\u2019t doubt that he does. That\u2019s why he wants to win Ohio and stay in. And now there\u2019s talk that Rubio will stay in even if he loses Florida. And Rubio and Kasich have both said that they are rethinking their pledge to support the nominee, that came as recently as a week ago.<\/p>\n


\nIsn\u2019t that why Trump has supporters in the first place, because so many Republicans make promises and then break them? So the fur is flying, and the establishment\u2019s making one last gasp here. Well, it won\u2019t be the last. Speaking of Rubio, Rubio said that there will be a reckoning for conservatives who support Trump. What does that mean? I don\u2019t know what it means. There will be a reckoning for conservatives who support Trump? No, no. What he\u2019s talking about here is they\u2019re taking names, and if you\u2019re conservative and you supported Trump, something\u2019s gonna happen to you some point down the road. You\u2019re gonna get kicked out. You\u2019re gonna be shamed or excommunicated from the party, who knows what. I\u2019m just reporting to you what\u2019s in the news here.<\/p>\n

Meanwhile, while all this is going on, while it\u2019s all going on, there\u2019s a new poll out, and what is this poll? Is it YouGov? Trump\u2019s now at 53% nationally. Reuters has him at 45. But this is 53% nationally among potential Republican primary voters for the first time, Trump is at 53%. Why does that matter? ‘Cause primaries don\u2019t go on national votes, obviously. I\u2019ll tell you why it matters, and it\u2019s \u2019cause of what Carly Fiorina\u2019s out there saying. If any of the anti-Trumpsters start bashing Trump voters, which is starting to happen, by the way. National Review Online, a couple people there really tore into Trump voters. “You deserve to suffer. You deserve to be dead meat. You deserve having economic strife.” I mean, that\u2019s the upshot. There are more details to it than that.<\/p>\n

But the point is it started to happen. Trump voters are now being insulted and blamed, and Carly Fiorina said (imitating Fiorina), “Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Don\u2019t do that. You\u2019re gonna need these people at the end of this process if Trump\u2019s not the nominee. You\u2019re gonna need them voting for whoever the nominee is or you don\u2019t have a prayer of beating Hillary.”<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Snerdley thinks that I\u2019m wrong about something, and I could well be. In my scenario today — and look, this is gonna be the third time I\u2019ve explained it, so bear me. I\u2019ll make it really quick. The GOP is throwing every egg in its basket in Ohio today. They\u2019re saying that the future of the party is in Ohio today. The future of the GOP hangs in Ohio. What that means is Kasich\u2019s gotta win Ohio.<\/p>\n

If Kasich wins Ohio, the establishment is still alive, and that way they can engineer a contested convention where they run, that they can then install whoever they want. And we\u2019ve got a rules committee guy, got a piece in The Daily Caller today that says, hey, the way I read the rules, delegates are not bound to vote the way the states voted on the first ballot, meaning all this is nothing. The primary process at the end of the day means nothing if delegates on the first ballot can vote for whoever they want.<\/p>\n

But the key to this is Kasich winning Ohio. Kasich wins Ohio, then the establishment thinks that they\u2019ve got a pathway to deny Trump 1,237 or Cruz 1,237. And that\u2019s the key. If they can go to the convention with nobody getting 1,237 — Snerdley thinks that it would not be Jeb Bush they\u2019d throw it to. Snerdley thinks it\u2019d be Paul Ryan. And, you know what, you may actually have a point. Speaker of the House, already a power. Jeb brings family ties, but I mean Ryan\u2019s there. Ryan\u2019s got ties to every lever that\u2019s pushed and pulled in Washington to make things happen.<\/p>\n


\nSo, yeah, you may have a point, that that may be the ultimate objective is to get Paul Ryan, even though he\u2019s out there, “I don\u2019t want it, don\u2019t anybody talk about it, don\u2019t anybody say it.” Well, what else is he gonna say? Right? So you may have a point about that. But the key to this, Kasich wins Ohio. Now, they\u2019re not just gonna give up and go away if that doesn\u2019t happen. But if Kasich doesn\u2019t win Ohio — he hasn\u2019t won a state. He\u2019s got 63 delegates.<\/p>\n

But if he wins Ohio, I\u2019m just gonna tell you what\u2019s gonna happen. They\u2019re gonna portray Kasich as the only guy in this race now. Ted Cruz is gonna become a nonfactor. I\u2019m talking about the media. The media, the Republican Party, and everybody in the media sympathetic to the Republican establishment, which would be the entire media. John Kasich, where\u2019s he been, John Kasich comes out of nowhere to save the Republican Party. I can hear and see the headlines now. Make no mistake about it.<\/p>\n

Now, you might think it\u2019s counterintuitive to say gotta vote Trump, hope Trump wins Ohio and Florida. The reason for that is, Kasich and Rubio have to go. They can\u2019t win this thing. There is no way under the sun. And all they do is divide the anti-Trump vote, folks. So it has to get down to a two man race. It has to get down to Trump-Cruz if you want somebody to win this with 1,237 delegates. I don\u2019t think any of you, other than maybe the excitement of it, want a contested convention. There may be some of you who are spectators only who would love to see Rome fall. (laughing) Well, that\u2019s what Kasich is saying.<\/p>\n

Kasich is saying it would be exciting to have a contested convention. And I heard Kasich saying there aren\u2019t any smoke-filled rooms. Have you seen any smoke-filled rooms? When\u2019s the last time you\u2019re in a convention? I\u2019ve been there. I\u2019ve been in conventions before you were born, Kasich. I was at a convention with Eisenhower, with Reagan, I was at convention with George Bush. There aren\u2019t any smoke-filled rooms. They don\u2019t allowing smoking anymore. So jeez. The smoke-filled room is a — what is it? Yeah, it\u2019s a metaphor. Of course. Smoke-filled rooms is the guys that run the show getting sequestered somewhere in private and pulling the strings.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Vernon, Winston-Salem, North Carolina, you\u2019re next. Great to have you on the EIB Network. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hello, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s an honor to speak with you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir, very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It was kind of you to apologize for the long wait, but really it\u2019s a pleasure to wait to speak with you.<\/p>\n


\nRUSH: I appreciate that. I really do appreciate it more than you know.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Look, if Donald Trump gets the 1,237 and he doesn\u2019t get the nomination, then there\u2019s gonna be hell to pay. But if he doesn\u2019t get the 1,237, then anything goes — and it\u2019s, like, okay. That\u2019s part of the rules, and we gotta be okay with that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: True, but it depends on how it happens. If there is…<\/p>\n

CALLER: (crosstalk)<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, no. No, no. This is crucial. If Trump, let\u2019s say, gets to 1,200 — he\u2019s 37 short — and they engineer a way to take it away from him, there\u2019s gonna be hell to pay, because 1,200 minus 37? Yeah, the rule\u2019s the rule, but the preference will have been expressed by the voters.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, the preference will be —<\/p>\n

RUSH: If they give it to somebody, they won\u2019t give it to Cruz. If this happens you can forget about Trump or Cruz winning. They\u2019re gonna give it to somebody who hasn\u2019t gotten very many votes, or any. You wait. That\u2019s what\u2019s going to happen. If that happens, you get chaos.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I agree, there will be chaos. But let\u2019s say it either goes to a two-man race — it\u2019s Trump or Cruz — or even if the four of them stay until the end. What\u2019s the problem with, “Okay, Trump doesn\u2019t get the votes the first go \u2019round. The Cruz people, the Rubio people, the Kasich people, they get together and say, ‘You know what? We are gonna agree on someone,'” and they go for Cruz or they go for Rubio. But they\u2019ve all gotta agree on that, and then the second round —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yes. If the scenario you lay out happens, yeah, that would be fun. That would be cool. If the only contestants are people who\u2019ve actually been in the primaries and actually have received votes, then everything\u2019s fine and cool. You\u2019re exactly right. But if at Mordor they decide to throw in somebody who has not been in the primaries (or who was in the primaries and barely showed up) — if they try to give it to Jeb, they try to give it to Paul Ryan, if they ask Mitt Romney to come in and then exert pressure on delegates to vote for their guy — then you\u2019re going to have chaos.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s what they want to do. That\u2019s why everybody\u2019s upset about this. If it was, as you spell it out, “Nobody gets to 1,237. We go to the convention. On the first ballot, everybody votes the way they\u2019re supposed to. After that, the horse trading begins. Yeah, baby! That can be fun.” I think in that scenario, the establishment knows that Trump probably has more to offer these delegates than anybody else does. They\u2019re worried about that. That\u2019s why they\u2019re gonna move in there and try to exert their pressure. But, Vernon, don\u2019t doubt me.<\/p>\n

That occasion that you describe, the establishment is praying for it. That\u2019s what Kasich winning Ohio stands for. It\u2019s what it represents. And they do not want to do that. They\u2019re gonna cause a walk. Whatever happens, however this happens, folks, the odds are after this is all over the Republican Party is not going to look like it looks today. It\u2019s gonna be reconstituted somehow. It\u2019s possible, by the way, that all of this is just a bunch of smoke and mirrors.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s possible that the party\u2019s gonna unified behind the biggest vote-getter and realize once we get to Cleveland, “Hey, you know what? We\u2019re not the problem. Hillary Clinton and the Democrats are the problem. We\u2019re gonna unify, and we\u2019re gonna rally behind our nominee,” like they usually do. That could happen, too. For that to happen, they would have to throw off all this stuff they think about Trump or they would have to get behind Ted Cruz.<\/p>\n

And we know they don\u2019t like either one of those two at the establishment. In fact, they may like Cruz less \u2019cause he poses a bigger threat because he\u2019s, in their view, inflexible. He has his core beliefs, he has his principles, and he\u2019s not gonna be intimidated out of them, they\u2019re so tightly held. “But Trump? Who knows what he believes. Make the right deal and he\u2019ll do anything.” That\u2019s what they think. So it\u2019s worth keeping an eye on.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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