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RUSH: The Republicans are planning on defunding Obamacare. That\u2019s gonna happen next week when they start voting. It\u2019s similar to how the members of Congress defunded the Vietnam War when they couldn\u2019t convince the administration to simply declare victory and get out of there. We\u2019ve got some sound bites about this. I still am struck by the fact that we\u2019re talking about something now that\u2019s unconstitutional. I know it\u2019s gonna be appealed, and I know it\u2019s gonna end up at the Supreme Court, but still as we sit here today, the law\u2019s been voided. I know they have to go ahead and take votes, try to repeal it, defund it, and all that, but I think every time Obamacare is mentioned, it needs to also be mentioned ‘the unconstitutional Obamacare.\u2019 Put the word out there. It has been voided. We\u2019ve got some sound bites here. The regime is not gonna back off. The regime not gonna compromise on the mandate, requirement that we all buy health insurance or pay a fine if we don\u2019t. That\u2019s the source of the unconstitutionality. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: Sam Stein asked a question of Robert Gibbs. He said, ‘There\u2019s been talk on the Hill about reopening up the individual mandate in health care legislation.\u2019 Remember, now, that\u2019s unconstitutional according to the judge. ‘How firm is the president and the administration\u2019s commitment to that provision, to the mandate, considering that at one point in time he was not supportive of it?\u2019<\/p>\n

GIBBS: The president had to make a conscious decision about how to ensure that the legislation would prevent the problem that we\u2019ve seen with free riders — in other words, people that didn\u2019t ever think they\u2019re gonna get sick and don\u2019t get sick but they get hit by a bus and show up at the emergency room and then they charge us, basically, to pay for it. The protections that — that we will have as part of this law that are derived from ensuring that it\u2019s not just a certain segment of the population that\u2019s covered but that everybody has coverage, is an important foundation in this law. The president supports it. We\u2019ve gone to court to maintain it.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, some Democrats want to reopen this because they think they\u2019re gonna lose at the Supreme Court. They want to reopen this whole mandate business and maybe preempt the Supreme Court ruling it unconstitutional. They want to say, ‘Let\u2019s rewrite it! Let\u2019s redo it and take that out of there,\u2019 and Gibbs is saying, ‘Nope, nope. We\u2019re gonna leave it in. That\u2019s all the regime cares about,\u2019 and he\u2019s right. That is the centerpiece of the bill. Without that, everything else crumbles. Here\u2019s Ben Nelson last night, MSNBC, Chris Matthews asked him, ‘It reminds me of one of those old time marriage jokes: You can\u2019t live with \u2019em, you can\u2019t live without \u2019em. How do you have a health care bill if you don\u2019t really force people to join up and share the risk?\u2019<\/p>\n

NELSON: I\u2019m looking at assigning solutions that are much more market based to get rid of the individual mandate. It isn\u2019t the only way to do it. It\u2019s the way that the insurance industry suggested and it was followed through on, but it\u2019s attracted questions about constitutionality. It\u2019s not publicly or politically accepted — <\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: M\u2019yah!<\/p>\n

NELSON: — by most people.<\/p>\n

RUSH: It has not attracted questions about constitutionality, it has produced answers! Judge Roger Vinson said it\u2019s unconstitutional. The law has been voided. The questions have been answered. But you hear there Senator Nelson saying: Just get rid of it. Just get rid of it. Nobody wants it anyway. It\u2019s unconstitutional; we gotta get rid of it. Gibbs says we\u2019re not gonna get rid of it. And Matthews says, ‘Well, look, don\u2019t a lot of people wish we could have voluntary Social Security, but the problem with that is they\u2019d find themselves penniless at 65 and would then want warfare.\u2019<\/p>\n

NELSON: Well, look, I\u2019m in favor of getting everybody into the system. It\u2019s a question of how do we do it —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: (dejected) I know.<\/p>\n

NELSON: — and what will work. I just want to make sure we do it in a way that\u2019s constitutional as well as a way that it is, uh, palatable politically for the people.<\/line> <\/line>MATTHEWS: Mmm.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: Ain\u2019t gonna happen with any of you people in charge of it. Dirty little secret: Senator Nelson, Michelle (My Belle) Obama, President Obama, with you people in charge of it, there\u2019s never gonna be a majority of people in this country support it. They don\u2019t want you in charge of health care. They don\u2019t want to have to go through any bureaucracy for their health care. They certainly don\u2019t want a panel of people — nameless, faceless bureaucrats — deciding if and how much medical treatment or care they get.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Get this, folks. This is from NPR, and it\u2019s about the health care debate. There\u2019s a guy named Len Nichols, L-e-n, Nichols, who is a health economist, teaches at George Mason University in Virginia. That\u2019s where Walter Williams taught. He says that ‘without a requirement for coverage, Congress might have to find another way to make the consequences of not having insurance even more dramatic.\u2019 Len Nichols, a health economist who teaches at Virginia\u2019s George Mason University, says, ‘perhaps if people don\u2019t buy insurance when it\u2019s first available, ‘if you ever try to buy insurance again, you\u2019ll have to pay three times the market price and we will put a gold sticker on your forehead and say to all hospitals, ‘You do not have to treat this person, this person has forfeited their right to uncompensated care.”\u2019 This is a proposal, a serious proposal that appears in the NPR website. <\/p>\n

From Len Nichols, a health economist who teaches at Virginia\u2019s George Mason University, ‘If you don\u2019t buy insurance when it\u2019s first available,\u2019 i.e., when you don\u2019t go out and buy when you\u2019re told to, ‘then if you ever try to buy insurance again, three times the market price and a gold sticker on your forehead that says to all hospitals, ‘You don\u2019t have to treat this person, this person has forfeited their right to uncompensated care.” Well, what\u2019s gonna happen when the gold stars don\u2019t stick to the forehead, you gonna maybe sew the gold star on the clothing? And then what happens if you take the clothing off? Why not tattoo the numbers on their arms, Professor? Why not just tattoo a bunch of gold stars on their arms, Professor, if they don\u2019t buy health insurance when you and your precious government demand that they do in violation of the Constitution? <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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