{"id":36494,"date":"2010-09-29T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T00:30:25","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T00:30:25","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T00:30:25","slug":"should_teacher_ratings_be_public","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2010\/09\/29\/should_teacher_ratings_be_public\/","title":{"rendered":"Should Teacher Ratings be Public?"},"content":{"rendered":"
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RUSH: Amy in Pittsburgh, you\u2019re next on the Rush Limbaugh program. Great to have you with us.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. How are you?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Very good. Thanks.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thanks for taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You bet.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m a little nervous, but, you know, you were talking earlier about Obama going and doing these backyard rallies or whatever you want to call it, campaigning, I guess. You know the other day he told his constituents in the Democratic Party they needed to buck up.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I thought it was interesting because two weeks ago Sarah Palin, when she was talking about Karl Rove and the establishment\u2019s temper tantrum over the Christine O\u2019Donnell win, she said they needed to buck up. And interesting choice of words that he would choose the same words as her, but it might just be coincidental, I don\u2019t know. You often say she\u2019s living inside his head. The other point I wanted to make about that, though, you know, she\u2019s telling the establishment they need to get on board, they need to buck up, follow the will of the people. And he\u2019s out there looking down his nose at the people saying, ‘Yeah, you don\u2019t like what I\u2019m doing, but buck up, obey, go with it,\u2019 and I just thought it was such an interesting choice of words but interesting moreover on how they\u2019re using it and who they\u2019re talking to.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, yeah, because Obama and Bite Me said the same thing. Actually, what Joe Bite Me said, it was interesting, you haven\u2019t heard this. You know Bite Me is a walking gaffe. He actually said buck off and they had to change it to buck up. And then Obama came out and totally unrelated Obama said buck up. And Palin had done it, too. Now, Palin was talking to the elites when she said it. Obama was talking to the non-elites when he said it. But there\u2019s no question that Palin is in their heads. It was the Reverend Jackson that said if he heard footsteps from behind him while he was in a dark alley and he turned around and saw a white guy he\u2019d be revealed. That\u2019s right. It was the Reverend Jackson who did make that statement. <\/p>\n

Here\u2019s Sarah in northern Virginia. Great to have you on the EIB Network. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi. I was calling, I got a call from my sister who is a teacher in Michigan last night and she had an e-mail from her local teacher union chapter calling for activists to go on an NEA subsidized buck trip for the rally this weekend in Washington, DC, called One Nation Working Together or something. And they said on September 29th they learned that they were getting an NEA grant to help offset the cost of the bus. So they\u2019re getting two people —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a second. Wait a second here. I want to make sure I\u2019m following you. Obama supporters and the teachers unions are having a rally September 29th in Washington.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, this weekend, One Nation Working Together march on Washington, October 2nd.<\/p>\n

RUSH: This weekend, October 2nd.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, this weekend. That\u2019s right \u2019cause today\u2019s the 29th.<\/p>\n

CALLER: They\u2019re going to sponsor two members paying up to one half of the transportation cost and $20 per meal and said they\u2019re being subsidized off of the costs by the NEA.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right. So that\u2019s what I wanted to make clear. <\/p>\n

CALLER: But she and her other teacher friend came down to Washington for the Glenn Beck Restoring Honor rally. They paid, you know, their airfare and their time away from school prep, and so she is beside herself that her union dues are going to subsidize sending activists down to this rally.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Not only that, it sounds like federal dollars are being used to subsidize this, too. See, this is my point. I wanted to make sure I understood this. So the teachers want to have this big rally — what\u2019s it for? Support Obama or something, the Democrats?<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s One Nation Working Together. It\u2019s a recommitment to change rally.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, that\u2019s Obama.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You know. Human and civil rights leaders, labor leaders are going to help put America back to work, pull America back together, help to reorder our national priorities so that —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — investments in people —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. So it\u2019s the stop whining rally, but the point is they\u2019re having to gin it up because people are not motivated on their own to go.<\/p>\n

CALLER: They\u2019re paid to go.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right, they\u2019re being paid to go, the rent-a-mob. They\u2019re being subsidized, paid to go, union dues, what have you, are being paid to go, they\u2019re being asked to go, and there\u2019s nothing spontaneous or genuine about it. That\u2019s your point, right?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, and it\u2019s the Michigan education whatever, statewide president\u2019s caucus is organizing the trip in hopes that we can ensure Michigan and the Michigan education association —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — to have a presence at the march. And so I guess that\u2019s why the NEA is offering grants for this.<\/p>\n

RUSH: They\u2019re in trouble.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But my sister, you know, on a teacher\u2019s salary that was a lot for her and her friend to come down to Restoring Honor because they felt passionate about it and they wanted to make a difference. Yet you have to pay union dues in Michigan if you\u2019re a teacher.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a minute. I have a pet peeve about the phrase, ‘make a difference.\u2019 Did you say that your sister, the teacher, said she wanted to make a difference?<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s why she spent money — and, you know, in Michigan they start school early. She and her friends —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — came down in the middle of prepping for school.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You know, on the 28th.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But your sister the teacher —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Huh-uh.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — said she wanted to go to this thing because she wanted to make a difference.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Is that right? What did you say to her when she told you that she wanted to go to this thing on somebody else\u2019s dime \u2019cause she can\u2019t afford it herself to make a difference, what did you —<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, no. No, she went to Glenn Beck rally to make a difference.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, she went to the Glenn Beck rally to make a difference — Oh, oh, oh, oh, okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Her union dues were being used to subsidize something that she was totally against.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, okay. I misunderstood you. I got it. I got it. Well, I still have a bugaboo with the ‘make a difference\u2019 business but I\u2019ll save it for another caller.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Anyway, your point is well taken. All this stuff happening on our side is genuine, and it\u2019s bubbling up effervescently from the grassroots. And the other side are having to gin it up themselves, create. It\u2019s like Obama is having to go out to all these places and urge his supporters to buck up and stop whining and all this \u2019cause they are depressed, they are unenthused.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And my sister\u2019s point is all the union dues that she pays and this is where her money is going to.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s only half the story. The other part of her union dues goes to Democrat candidates and so forth. At any rate, I appreciate the call. Thanks. Speaking of teachers, here\u2019s a story from the AP. It\u2019s in a Boston newspaper, but it\u2019s a story out of South Gate, California, AP, by Christina Hoag. Now, listen to this. ‘The Los Angeles Times should remove teacher performance ratings from its website after the apparent suicide of a teacher despondent over his score, the union representing Los Angeles school teachers said. United Teachers Los Angeles also has asked school administrators to join with them in the request to the newspaper, which published the ratings last month, union president AJ Duffy said. <\/p>\n

‘The body of 39-year-old Rigoberto Ruelas Jr., a fifth-grade teacher at Miramonte Elementary School, was found Sunday at the foot of a remote forest bridge in what appears to be a suicide. The motive for Ruelas taking his own life is far from clear. But union officials said he had been upset since the Times published his district ranking as a ‘less effective\u2019 teacher based on his students\u2019 standardized English and math test scores. Ruelas scored ‘average\u2019 in getting his students up to acceptable levels in English, but ‘less effective\u2019 in math, and ‘less effective\u2019 overall. The school itself ranked as ‘least effective\u2019 in raising test scores, and only five of Miramonte\u2019s 35 teachers were ranked as high as average.\u2019<\/line> <\/line>So the union has asked the Los Angeles Time to stop publishing teacher rankings because publishing teacher rankings is causing teachers to commit suicide. Now, stop and think about this for a second. Stop and think. I gotta take a break here, but I want you to stop and think about this because right here it says the motive for Ruelas taking his own life is far from clear. For those of you in Rio Linda it means nobody has any idea why he did it, but that didn\u2019t stop the union from saying that he might have done it because he had been upset ever since the LA Times published his rankings as a less-than-effective teacher. But nobody knows. Now, my point is this. Why can\u2019t we publish the effectiveness of teachers? Athletes have their work scored every moment. Their work is on television. These people get ripped to shreds each and every day if they\u2019re baseball or basketball players, every week if they\u2019re football players. There are any number of people, CEOs, Big Oil executives, Big Pharmaceutical executives, BP executive, any number of people who not only have their work ripped to shreds, they get called up to testify before august Senate and congressional committees. <\/line><\/p>\n

There are numerous lines of work. People in the media, whether or not people watch their shows, it\u2019s published all the time, the ratings. All kinds of peoples, lawyers, win a case; lose a case, big-time news about it. There are all kinds of people whose work is publicly commented on, publicly remarked upon, publicly known. And now all of a sudden the teachers union, without any knowledge, without any direct knowledge, says we gotta stop publishing how effective or ineffective the teachers are, it\u2019s causing the teachers to kill themselves. Why is it that of all these jobs in the world we\u2019re not allowed to know how teachers are doing, especially in this case when the motive is ‘far from clear.\u2019 See, the answer to the question is very obvious to me. If you look at the public education system in this country you know full well it\u2019s failing, on balance. There are some good teachers, there\u2019s no question, but on balance it\u2019s in trouble. And the more money we spend the worse it gets. <\/p>\n

We can\u2019t now have teacher ratings; we can\u2019t test the teachers; we can\u2019t rate them; we can\u2019t test them to see how well they\u2019re doing. The people in charge of teaching kids, we\u2019re not supposed to learn how good they are at it. There\u2019s no mechanism where we can find out how good they are, and if we do find out how they\u2019re good and some of them are not good at it and all of a sudden they kill themselves and so we\u2019ve gotta shelter everybody from that knowledge? I think it\u2019s a bunch of cowards. You know, it works both ways. If you start publishing the results of how good people do their jobs there is some motivation to do it well, is there not? <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, these teacher evaluations in the Los Angeles Times were published way back during the first week of August. This is the last week of September. It sure took that teacher a long time to get around to killing himself. Folks, you know, I live in Literalville. This is one of the biggest problems people have with me. Everybody else lives in politically correct world. I live in Literalville. Okay, so we have a story in the LA Times. Teacher commits suicide, period. The union guy said the reason is far from clear, meaning, we don\u2019t have the slightest idea why, but we want the LA Times to stop publishing teacher rankings because undoubtedly it led to his suicide. Well, if it did, it took a long time for the guy to get around to it because the LA Times published the rankings the first week in August, and the guy wipes himself out in the last week of September, so it took a while to build, did it not? (interruption) What\u2019s wrong with this, Snerdley? No, I don\u2019t know. I\u2019m challenging the whole notion. He committed suicide, nobody knows why, the union says it\u2019s far from clear, ‘but…\u2019 So anything after but is meaningless. After you admit nobody knows, then when you profess to know, you don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n

Okay, so I\u2019m just saying I live in Literalville. The guy takes his life in late September, last week of September, but the rankings are published the first week in August. It took him a long time to get around to it. That\u2019s all I\u2019m saying. Now also, if bad published rankings sparked suicides then somebody had better build some nets outside the windows at the CNN building and the MSNBC building because there\u2019s going to be a rash of suicides. The ratings every day are published for CNN and MSNBC and Fox, they\u2019re published every day, Nielsen publishes them and I see them every day, and they\u2019re bad. I mean they\u2019re horrible out there. CNN and MSNBC, it\u2019s embarrassing. It\u2019s not a surprise to them. They\u2019re almost honored by how small the ratings are. They tell themselves we have the right people watching, right, like the White House. But you better start building some nets or have the firemen on 24-hour watch, if bad rankings lead to suicides out there. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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