{"id":358811,"date":"2020-08-04T16:11:00","date_gmt":"2020-08-04T20:11:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/?p=358811"},"modified":"2020-08-04T18:18:38","modified_gmt":"2020-08-04T22:18:38","slug":"the-case-fatality-rate-chart-the-president-talked-about-in-the-axios-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2020\/08\/04\/the-case-fatality-rate-chart-the-president-talked-about-in-the-axios-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"The Case-Fatality Rate Chart That Backs Up Trump\u2019s “Positive Thinking”"},"content":{"rendered":"

RUSH: I\u2019m at a big disadvantage here. I have some charts to deal with this so-called controversy between Trump and Axios<\/a> and the so-called way we tabulate deaths either as a percentage of the population or a percentage of the number of cases. Trump has his way of doing it.<\/p>\n

Now, CNN and the Drive-Bys are all over Trump falsely claims this, Trump falsely claims that, Trump lies about this, Trump doesn\u2019t know what he\u2019s talking about. They show pictures of him trying to figure out charts that he\u2019s got there. And so I spent some time at the top of the hour looking at some charts from the Johns Hopkins<\/a> site and others.<\/p>\n

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I have to tell you, folks, I am lost with charts. I need words. I\u2019ve already told you. If you can tell me in 15 seconds what a-two-minute video says I\u2019ll prefer the 15 seconds of your words than two minutes of video. I\u2019m interested in digesting the salient points as quickly as possible.<\/p>\n

So I\u2019ve got charts and graphs here, which attempt to prove that Trump is right. But I don\u2019t have any more than two and a half minutes at a time while the program is underway to try to digest these charts. They take a lot of work for me because I\u2019m a word guy, not a charts and graphs and try to translate the upper axis, the lower axis and all this other garbage, plus putting them on the Dittocam, most of the graphics are so small, you couldn\u2019t even see \u2019em if I did.<\/p>\n

But the chart that I have, I found a way to put it into words. It shows that Trump was using actual numbers from Johns Hopkins. And, you know, we can link to the Johns Hopkins website<\/a> at RushLimbaugh.com. We have in the past. You could go to the Hopkins site and you can see what Trump is talking about. It\u2019s not hard. Trump is the one that\u2019s actually being scientific here.<\/p>\n

The Johns Hopkins site shows two different charts. The case fatality rate and the death rate per 100,000. Now, in medicine and in science, they always talk about the case fatality rate, the death per 1,000 is far less reliable because countries have all kinds of different ways of counting deaths by a disease.<\/p>\n

And even in the United States we can\u2019t get a consistent way. We learned yesterday that the hospitals are now admitting that there\u2019s money to be made in every death that can be chalked up to COVID-19. Remember the controversy we had in Florida where 300 different testing sites, testing locations were reporting 100 percent positives?<\/p>\n

In other words, everybody that came in tested positive for COVID-19. It\u2019s not possible. And yet they were reporting it at 300 different sites. So the same thing happens with the death rate. They\u2019re reporting people dying from COVID-19 even if they haven\u2019t died from it, but if they\u2019ve got it. If they die of kidney failure, if they die of diabetes, if they die of cancer but they also have COVID, guess what? They\u2019re said to have died from COVID.<\/p>\n

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Why? Well, there\u2019s a bunch of reasons, A, there\u2019s money in it. B, there\u2019s politics in it. Right now the more people dying of COVID, the better for the Democrat Party. Who\u2019s reporting these numbers? Who is in charge of reporting and interpreting these numbers? The Drive-By Media is. And if they want the number of deaths associated with COVID-19 to go up and rise, they can do that and then they can blame it all on Trump.<\/p>\n

And when Trump comes along and says, “Hey, it is what it is,” the number of deaths, the number of cases. He has no other choice but than to look at it for what it is. He has no choice but than to look at it as it is. He\u2019s the president of the United States. He can\u2019t wish it away. And that\u2019s not what he\u2019s trying to do with positive thinking. Not trying to wish it away.<\/p>\n

So, at any rate, in medicine and science they always talk about the case fatality rate, the death per 100,000. It\u2019s a tough thing to do because of the reporting in terms of cause of death, countries differ greatly in this. The United States and the U.K. are near the top of this chart because they count people who never even tested positive as dying of COVID when other countries do not. Why are we doing this?<\/p>\n

So of course the media wants that particular chart used. And Trump is not looking at that chart. The fatality-per-case chart shows that the U.S. is near the bottom, which is good. Fatality-per-case is what Trump is looking at. You take the number of cases of COVID versus how many people die from it, that\u2019s what Trump is looking at. That\u2019s where he says progress is being made. The fatality rate is coming down. The death per capita puts us, along with the U.K., at the top the way Axios and the media is looking at it<\/a>. Death as a percentage of population, per capita.<\/p>\n

What does that tell you? There\u2019s different ways of looking at it, but the case fatality rate is far more indicative. You got X-number of people who report testing positive. How many of them die? That\u2019s what you want to know. The per capita rate tabulates the number of deaths compared to the whole population, including people that have not tested positive for it.<\/p>\n

Well, what would you rather know? Would you rather know the survivability rate among people who get it? Or would you rather know what the fatality rate is per capita. You know, X-number of people in the country, how many people die? Which is more relevant to you? It would seem to me that if you don\u2019t get COVID-19, you can\u2019t possibly die from it. So you would be interested in what is the case fatality rate. If you get it, what are the odds? That\u2019s what Trump is talking about.<\/p>\n

Now, on Friday the CDC head honcho, this Redfield guy, testified to Congress that U.S. hospitals do have a financial incentive to count deaths as COVID-19 deaths. That confirms what Dr. Birx said, the Scarf Queen, weeks ago, that she thought the death numbers were inflated by 25%. It\u2019s another reason why there should be a lot of, I don\u2019t know, doubt or suspicion attached here.<\/p>\n

But if you can — and I\u2019m sure that Koko and Koko Jr. have heard me say that we will provide a link to the Johns Hopkins website<\/a>. If you do, there\u2019s two things to look at — the case fatality rate, and that\u2019s where you\u2019ll find this at the bottom — or the per capita, the percentage of the population. That\u2019s where you\u2019ll find this at the top. That\u2019s what the media is using.<\/p>\n

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The case fatality rate, again, how many people have tested positive, whatever number that is, versus how many are dying. And that gives you the morbidity rate. As far as I\u2019m concerned, personally and being interested in it, that latter way would be of more relevance to me. ‘Cause if you don\u2019t get COVID-19, then the odds of dying from it are pretty slim. So what does it matter what percentage of the population? But if you do get it, okay, now we\u2019re talking. Now what are the odds of survival?<\/p>\n

Well, that\u2019s what you can calculate with the case fatality rate. And that\u2019s what Trump said. So these guys, “Well, he has a different way of thinking. Trump has this really curious thing called positive thinking. It\u2019s a philosophy, the idea that you say something and you believe it and it happens.”<\/p>\n

I\u2019m telling you, folks, the disconnect between, say, people under 40 and everybody else in terms of traditional, human philosophy, American values, it is stunning. No, no, no, I\u2019m not naive. I\u2019ve known all kinds of people make fun of positive thinking. Don\u2019t misunderstand. But it happens in a specific personal way, not an overall rebuke of the effort or of the mind-set.<\/p>\n

Have these people never listened to professional athletes talk about how they go about their jobs? Have you ever listened to people that play golf? Folks, you cannot be a PGA tournament champion without the ability to think positive and to banish, you not only have to do that, you have to banish negative thoughts about yourself and your ability as often as you can. If you can\u2019t do that, you\u2019re never gonna win. If you get caught up in the “I can\u2019ts” or the “I am horrible, I can\u2019t play this game,” if you get caught up in that, you\u2019re cooked, you\u2019re done, you\u2019re toast.<\/p>\n

How many of you have seen Tiger Woods didn\u2019t make the cut in the postround interview talk about how well he thinks he\u2019s playing, just didn\u2019t make enough puts or just, you know, wasn\u2019t quite good enough off the tee. You never hear these guys saying that they suck. Never. And all professional athletes, I mean, the true champions — and there are very few of those — all of them are the same way when it comes to the notion of positive thinking.<\/p>\n

In fact, I would venture so far as to say that most successful people have a modicum or a portion of their existence that is devoted to positive thinking, that they can do it, that they are good. You can\u2019t otherwise achieve great heights if you are obsessed with negativism, particularly about yourself. And here\u2019s another thing. How many of you have encountered people who are just constantly negative all the time about themselves and about you and about this — you don\u2019t want any part of \u2019em.<\/p>\n

You don\u2019t want to hang around them. It\u2019s why I\u2019ve always said to people who ask me advice questions on life, for example radio, “Whatever you do, do not hang around with people who failed at it. They are a dime a dozen. They\u2019re everywhere. Do not hang around \u2019em. They don\u2019t want you to succeed because they didn\u2019t.”<\/p>\n

And this goes for anybody, in any endeavor, whatever you want to do, make sure you find the people who\u2019ve succeeded at it. If you\u2019re gonna try to learn something from somebody, if you\u2019re gonna try to be inspired or motivated, do not talk to people who failed, ultimately failed. If you want to talk to people who have succeeded, who experience failure along the way and how they dealt with it, fine. But you want to find the people who have succeeded, and that\u2019s whose brains you want to pick.<\/p>\n

\"\"And what is that? That\u2019s positive thinking. That\u2019s can-do, the old can-do spirit. And the idea that this is some kind of foreign, oddball, weird philosophy that is only useful to salesmen and reality TV stars? No wonder the media\u2019s as devoted to negativism as they are. No wonder these people crash and burn every day. No wonder their lives are dominated by failure, catastrophe, chaos, and so forth. They thrive in it.<\/p>\n

But I just want to remind you one more time about the media and their purpose here. They know that if realism, if a mature, realism of the assessment of where we are as a nation in regard to the economy and COVID-19, if reality replaces panic, then they, the Democrats and the media, are doomed. If we learn to live with it like we have with the flu, that\u2019d be the worst thing possible for them.<\/p>\n

And again, the flu is far more prevalent out there. It hospitalizes more, it infects more, it kills more, in raw numbers. And yet we\u2019ve learned to deal with it. We\u2019ve never shut down the country because of it. And if we learn to live with COVID-19, which we\u2019re gonna have to, by the way. We can\u2019t stay sequestered for the rest of our life.<\/p>\n

We can\u2019t stay quarantined. We\u2019re gonna have to learn to live with it. This another thing Trump was pointing out. Anyway, to me that\u2019s all nothing more than common-sense reality. And the idea that all of that is the essential equivalent of a foreign language to people under 40, whew. What an eye-opener.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Bill in East Troy, Wisconsin. Welcome, sir. Great to have you with us today. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush, it\u2019s great to finally get a chance to talk to you after all these years of listening. Hey, my question is, for the president anyways, is to say in response, thank God it\u2019s not 20,000 a day like the fake media, fake news wanted us to believe, because weren\u2019t we supposed to have like piles of dead bodies by now, like 200 million? So he could have come back and said, “Well, we\u2019re thankful isn\u2019t 20,000 a day like the Fake Media wanted us to believe.”<\/p>\n

RUSH: I have to tell you, that is a — let\u2019s review this. Because that is a good point. The original number — in fact, let\u2019s go to the line 5 and grab Marty because the same process here. Marty\u2019s in Pittsburgh where, by the way, they\u2019re gonna try guaranteed universal income. They\u2019re one of 15 cities that\u2019s gonna try it in Pittsburgh. Here is Marty, and I\u2019m glad you called. What is your point here?<\/p>\n

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CALLER: Rush, we were initially told that 2.2 million people were going to die. The CDC told us that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: We\u2019re at 150,000, that\u2019s tragic, but it\u2019s a far cry from 2.2 million and I think Trump and the government should be given credit for at least limiting those numbers —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Do you think Trump ought to not be saying, “hey, it is what it is”?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I think he should be taking credit for the people that are still alive. They told us we\u2019re losing two million people —<\/p>\n

RUSH: You know, that\u2019s what Obama would be doing. Obama sure as hell would be — by the way, this is another question. Getting off on a tangent. What the hell is Obama surfacing all of a sudden for? You know, these guys crashed the John Lewis funeral, Clinton goes in there, crashes it, President Obama went in there, Obama turned his eulogy into a political speech against Trump, same thing that happened at the McCain funeral. We\u2019ll get to that.<\/p>\n

But this is exactly right. The original number of deaths was gonna be 2.2 million. Remember it was from that bogus computer modeling guy in the U.K., Neil somebody<\/a>, and he had not factored in anything like social distancing, 2.2 million. They used that number on Trump to get him to shut down the country. This is important.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: So that 2.2 million number, the guy\u2019s name was Neil Ferguson, and it\u2019s a name now synonymous with disasters. I forget the name of his organization, but he\u2019s one of the two people that produced computer models projecting the number — this is way back in February and March — projecting the number of deaths from COVID-19. The other one was out of the state of Washington.<\/p>\n

Now, the thing to remember is that these two different outcomes have yet to be correct in their projections of the number of deaths. The Ferguson model from the U.K. forecast 2.2 million deaths in the United States, 500,000 deaths in the U.K. Those were the first numbers reported. They caused an outright panic. Those were the numbers. Those were the first numbers that President Trump heard. And he kept using them in press conferences. He kept using the 2.2 million number as a justification for shutting down the country.<\/p>\n

And I remember coming to the golden microphone every day and telling everybody that number should have never been used, that 2.2 million deaths was never accurate, it was never relevant. And the reason was that the guy who did the computer modeling didn\u2019t factor in any mitigating behavior. If we did nothing, 2.2 million people would have died. If we just continued to go about our business, then 2.2 million people would die before the end of the year.<\/p>\n

Well, then the guy got a lot of grief for that so he factored in, okay, what if everybody practices social distancing, meaning what happens if we quarantine or sequester and maintain six feet separation. You know what the 2.2 million number became? It was like 200,000, 240,000. I mean, it was reduced by 90%. And even that was high. But the 2.2 million number was out, and it had been allowed to do its work. It had caused panic.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>It had been used to convince Trump that he needed to shut down the country and the economy. But the number was always bogus. And I was always sitting here maintaining that Trump should never use this number, he should never talk about that number. That number was never real. It was never relevant. Because he were never not gonna do anything. We were never not gonna practice some kind of mitigation. We were always gonna do something. Masks, social distancing, whatever. People staying at home. People don\u2019t want to die. They\u2019re gonna do something to prevent getting it.<\/p>\n

But his model forecast 2.2 million dead with nobody doing anything. That number should have never been used. So the 500,000 dead in the U.K. became 20,000 after social distancing was factored into his model. The 2.2 million, actually, I think it became 180 or 200,000 in America. And then that number started to be used more frequently. But they succeeded in getting that 2.2 million deaths out there in the United States.<\/p>\n

And it\u2019s no wonder, folks, it\u2019s no wonder that the average American now thinks 30 million Americans have died, 9% of the population. Look, this is all politics, and it\u2019s corrupting so much. It\u2019s corrupting now professional sports. It\u2019s corrupting weather. It\u2019s corrupting medicine. And it\u2019s a particular kind of politics that\u2019s doing this corrupting. It\u2019s liberalism. It\u2019s the politics of the Democrat Party.<\/p>\n

This guy, Ferguson, London Imperial College. That\u2019s right. That\u2019s where this guy\u2019s computer models are. That\u2019s where he works. But he was wrong about the numbers of dead in Sweden. And Sweden didn\u2019t do much of any mitigating behavior for a while.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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