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RUSH: Yesterday afternoon on CNBC\u2019s Street Signs, the leader of the regime appeared with John Harwood who said, ‘If reducing consumption is a good idea, could you see the potential for a value-added tax in this country?\u2019<\/line> <\/line>OBAMA: That is something that has worked for some countries. Uhhhh, it\u2019s something that would be novel for the United States. And before, you know, I start saying this makes sense or that makes sense, I want to get a better picture of what our options are — and my first priority is to figure out: How can we reduce wasteful spending so that, you know, we have a baseline of the core services that we need and the government should provide; and then we decide how do we pay for that, as opposed to figuring out how much money we can raise and then, uh, not have to make some tough choices to the spending side.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, so are we going to have a value-added tax, VAT tax, ‘That is something that has worked for some countries. Uhhhh, it\u2019s something that would be novel for the United States. And before, you know, I start saying this makes sense or that makes sense, I want to get a better picture of what our options are…\u2019 It sounds to me like it\u2019s on the table. It sounds to me like a VAT tax is on the table here, and all the rest of this is just words made to look like, ‘Well, we gotta examine it! It\u2019s pretty novel for the United States, a pretty strange thing. I gotta look at this, \u2019cause, you know, I\u2019m OBAMA! I\u2019ve got so much financial experience. I know all about taxation. I know all about everything to do with high finance. I just have to call George Soros to find out what he thinks about this, and I\u2019ll get back to you.\u2019 <\/p>\n

So here is the giddy Associated Press report of this: ‘President Barack Obama suggested Wednesday that a new value-added tax on Americans is still on the table, seeming to show more openness to the idea than his aides have expressed in recent days. Before deciding what revenue options are best for dealing with the deficit and the economy, Obama said in an interview with CNBC, ‘I want to get a better picture of what our options are.” So we\u2019ve had Volcker out there talking about it and a number of other people have been talking about it. ‘For days, White House spokesmen have said the president has not proposed and is not considering a VAT. <\/p>\n

”I think I directly answered this the other day by saying that it wasn\u2019t something that the president had under consideration,\u2019 White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters shortly before Obama spoke with CNBC. After the interview, White House deputy communications director Jen Psaki said nothing has changed and the White House is ‘not considering\u2019 a VAT.\u2019 They\u2019re not? Who are we to believe here? I mean, the president just said he\u2019s looking at it! His press secretary said: No, no, no, that\u2019s not on the table; not considering it. ‘In the CNBC interview, Obama said he was waiting for recommendations from a bipartisan fiscal advisory commission on ways to tackle the deficit and other problems.\u2019 Yeah. So he\u2019s waiting to hear what Andy Stern of the SEIU thinks we ought to do to reduce the deficits. <\/p>\n

He\u2019s on the commission along with Alan Simpson ‘Babe\u2019 and ‘Irksome\u2019 Bowles — and, of course, they will make their recommendations in December following the November elections. And, folks, what\u2019s going to happen here is that Obama\u2019s never, ever going to say anything more than he did here. What\u2019s going to happen is, you\u2019re going to have join us presser and you\u2019re going to have Alan Simpson ‘Babe\u2019 and ‘Irksome\u2019 Bowles come out and say it\u2019s the only way we can do it. I told you the other day, the smart people are saying, ‘Rush, Rush. No way we can ever pay down this debt. The reason they ran it up so large is precisely that. There\u2019s no way. This cannot be paid back. What has to happen for markets to be cool with it is for an effort to be made to pay it back. Make it look like serious effort is undertaken to reduce the debt. <\/p>\n

‘And how do you do that, Rush?\u2019 they asked me. ‘You do it with tax increases.\u2019 That\u2019s what leftists around the world will applaud. That\u2019s what world bodies will applaud. That\u2019s what Democrats will applaud. The UN will applaud it. The ChiComs will applaud it. Hugo Chavez will applaud it. So the world will say, ‘You know this man Obama, he gets it! He\u2019s very serious about reducing the debt load of the United States. This is a very serious man.\u2019 So he puts this commission together, they come out with a VAT tax and whatever else they add to it. Obama never has to have his fingerprints on it, but he adopts the recommendation because these are learned people! A bipartisan commission announced in December of this year, long after the November elections — and then the world applauds. (clapping) ‘All right! All right! The US is finally getting serious about managing its debt.\u2019<\/p>\n

When, of course, we are going to keep spending and spending and spending as the tax raises continue and the spending will continue, and at some point the smart money people are going to be wrong. At some point it is going to collapse. It can\u2019t be sustained forever this way. In fact, guess what they\u2019ve just done in Greece? They have just realized — get this, now. They have just realized they underestimated the size of their debt by a whole whopping 2% of GDP, which is significant. It\u2019s even worse than they originally thought. Let me amend that: It\u2019s even worse than they originally said. They\u2019ve known it all along, and now there are strikes. Everybody that\u2019s on a freeloader status over there — teachers, doesn\u2019t matter — are striking, promising all kinds of civil unrest. They\u2019ve had decades of a welfare state, and now all of it\u2019s going to be taken away under austerity plans. <\/p>\n

You look over there and you might see a little microcosm of our future. These guys are being honest. The White House is not considering VAT, but the deficit panel is. Alan ‘Babe\u2019 Simpson and ‘Irksome\u2019 Bowles. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Every six months the Congressional Budget Office revises our debt, claiming they underestimated it. It happens here; it happens in Greece; it happens in the European Union and Obama is doing exactly what they accused Ronald Reagan of. They accused Reagan of purposely running up a whole bunch of spending so that government would have to be slashed. Remember that accusation? Reagan was spending all the money \u2019cause it was the only way to get government to start cutting back. Now Obama\u2019s actually doing it, and Obama\u2019s doing it so that taxes would have to be raised tremendously. That\u2019s what\u2019s gonna get everybody\u2019s feet out of the fire on this in government, in terms of the rest of the world looking at our debt, looking at our financial system, looking at our health. As long as we come in with massive tax — do you know how the Europeans are going to love a VAT? Do you know how the ChiComs are going to love a VAT? Do you know how all these people who are nervously holding our debt can be mollified if we just start raising taxes? And it\u2019s coming in January with the sunset of the Bush tax cuts. <\/p>\n

This is Warren, Calabash, North Carolina, great to have you on the program, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Greetings.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I want to talk about this — I heard part of your bank regulation before. Now, the bank regulation, they want to do a lot of high-class tuning of the banks and how to regulate them. When you think out of the box, a simple sentence will solve the problem. You take these big banks and you cut them down to size. In other words, make them half of their size or a quarter, whatever it takes to get proper disbursement of monies. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a second, now. What does the size of a bank have to do with proper disbursement of monies?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, there\u2019d be more smaller banks and by that they\u2019d be more banks in the neighborhoods, large banks, not gigantic banks.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So wait, you want to cut the big banks in half, cut \u2019em down to size, make \u2019em smaller?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And you want the people who write the US tax code, who run the health care system, who run Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and all that, you want them to be in charge of how big banks ought to be?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, that\u2019s up to the Congress or —<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s what I\u2019m saying.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Our esteemed people which have an oath. They all swear this oath to protect the Constitution and —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Nah. That went out the window a long time.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — against all enemies, foreign and domestic.<\/p>\n

RUSH: They are doing that. I mean they\u2019re coming after the tea parties, domestic enemy, there\u2019s no question.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, yeah. (laughing) <\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019m going to tell you something. I\u2019m going to be very honest here. I do not understand accounting, the banking business, I\u2019m not going to sit here and pretend I\u2019m an expert in banking. I\u2019m not. I\u2019m not an expert in the US financial system. I have to ask economists. I have to ask people that I trust, who I think know what they\u2019re talking about in order for me to learn about it. I think it\u2019s a closed society. All these terms they come up with are designed to — it\u2019s like legalese in any other kind of contract. I don\u2019t know what that means. But I do know this. I do know this. I know that we do not need to put in charge of these banks some guy who has never, ever produced a dollar, who has never done anything but spend somebody else\u2019s money, that doesn\u2019t have the foggiest idea how capital is created, doesn\u2019t know the first thing about capital formation, in fact, resents it. This is like putting Colonel Sanders in charge of the henhouse, folks. <\/p>\n

We\u2019ve got a guy who does not like the way this country was structured and founded, he does not like the way it operated under a capitalist, free market economy, and we\u2019re putting him in charge of it. And we\u2019re putting somebody in charge of it who has deep resentment for this country and the way it\u2019s operated. Don\u2019t doubt me on this. The guy runs around the world apologizing for the country. (doing Obama impression) ‘Well, you know, whether you like it or not, we must have a superpower military. Whether you like it or not, we are world class economy.\u2019 What do you mean, whether you like it or not? Don\u2019t tell me that that\u2019s not a rhetorical device, that\u2019s just the way Obama speaks. If you don\u2019t want to admit who Obama is and what he\u2019s all about, it\u2019s just because you want to keep your head in the sand and don\u2019t want to deal with the hard, cold reality of what we face. But everybody who has the ability to keep both eyes open for ten seconds and both ears open for 20 can see exactly what\u2019s going on. And the last person qualified to determine how big a bank is, the leader of the regime, the last guy, Barack Obama. He\u2019s working at a business newsletter and he writes in one of his books that he feels like he\u2019s behind enemy lines working in a capitalist endeavor. <\/p>\n

Chester, Pennsylvania, this is Dan. I\u2019m glad you waited, sir. You\u2019re next on the EIB Network.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thank you, sir. It\u2019s a great honor.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yes, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I just want to know if you can enlighten me. I\u2019m trying to figure out how Timothy Geithner gets off saying it\u2019s not going to cost the taxpayers a dime when he\u2019s creating a whole new government agency that\u2019s going to employ hundreds of overpaid federal employees to shred apart our Ninth Amendment rights.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, they\u2019re lying. They don\u2019t have a dime without taxpayer money.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s not going to cost a dime. It\u2019s going to be a pretty penny. I mean look at the Department of Energy. That was supposed to get us off of foreign oil. It hasn\u2019t produced one drop of oil —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Exactly right, exactly right. What they want you to believe is — what you\u2019re talking about is this $50 billion bailout fund. They\u2019re not calling it that. It\u2019s a slush fund. What they want you to believe is the banks are contributing to that, these evil Wall Street bankers and these investment bankers, they\u2019re going to have to cough up the money, not the taxpayers. Well, the taxpayers are at the end of the line on all this. The taxpayers here in this case are investors, shareholders, and if the banks have to pool resources and put whatever total of $50 billion in a fund, whatever bank puts ten billion in is going to find a way to recoup it, and what they charge people, they might raise the ATM fees, they might raise their fees per transaction. Oh, and speaking of that, wait \u2019til you start getting a tax on every trade, a t-a-x on every trade that you make. Oh, yeah, in your portfolio, yes, inside your portfolio, every trade you make, tax on it. Not capital gains, just a transaction tax. You don\u2019t think that\u2019s coming, Snerdley? Ha. We don\u2019t have any money. They have to create the illusion that they are being responsible managing the debt. <\/p>\n

This is Tim in Biloxi, Mississippi. Nice to have on you the EIB Network. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thank you very much, Rush, for taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You bet.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I am a CPA, I\u2019ve been a CPA for 35 years and the Obama administration just continues to do so the same — it\u2019s a one-trick pony, the whole banking regulation aspect that\u2019s out there is designed to do, in my opinion, little more than create yet another layer of bureaucracy, take more jobs out of the private sector, fatten up the government even more. We have regulation out there. Bernie Madoff, the SEC, the FTC. If those clowns were doing their jobs, none of those things would have happened. Why in the world should we possibly believe that with a new layer of regulation that the individuals that are doing the job are going to be any more competent or qualified or diligent in their tasks?<\/p>\n

RUSH: It\u2019s a great question, except you have to look at this in a different way. I\u2019m assuming that you are accepting the premise that what they really want to do here is regulate for the good of the industry.<\/p>\n

CALLER: My premise is all they want to do is put more power in government.<\/p>\n

RUSH: All right, then you\u2019re right. It\u2019s not about regulation. It\u2019s about control. It is about picking winners and losers. It is about rewarding your friends and punishing the people you don\u2019t like.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Absolutely.<\/p>\n

RUSH: This is how regimes work, and that\u2019s the command-and-control authority here, under the guise of consumer protection. See, that\u2019s how this is all being set — and there are some consumer protection provisions in this bill, and they\u2019re not bad. That\u2019s not at all what this is about. That\u2019s just to get people sucked into thinking their ATM fees aren\u2019t going to go up or if the ATM fee does go up, Obama\u2019s going to fire the CEO. So, it is about control and picking winners and losers and punishing the people you don\u2019t like.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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