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<\/p>\nRUSH: Not much time to intro here because we have a tight window, but now is time to play for you the interview, the conversation I had yesterday afternoon with the three hosts of The Breakfast Club about the George Floyd story. I just wanted to reach out to some people that reach a large segment of the African-American community and have a conversation about it, and this is what happened.<\/p>\n
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RUSH: Folks, something special here. You know, I\u2019ve been doing this program for 31 years and prior to this program, a number of years before that in various cities across the country. And during this period of time we\u2019ve gone through civil unrest, we\u2019ve had race riots, we\u2019ve had kind of what is happening now, although this may be unprecedented in a couple of ways. The one thing I\u2019ve never done throughout this entire period is reach out to people on the other side of this. I mean, I\u2019ve wanted to, I just have never done it, and I decided that I need to do this.<\/p>\n
I decided that I need to not just assume the people in my audience are gonna hear me. I need to reach out to people who aren\u2019t there. So I started asking around, “If I wanted to reach the largest number and the most influential number of African-Americans and other minorities in America, who should I talk to?” And everybody kept coming back at me with The Breakfast Club. “You have to have the people, The Breakfast Club, you have to talk to them.” And so they have graciously agreed to do this. We\u2019re taping this on Sunday afternoon. They have been very kind and giving up a portion of their day to make this possible.<\/p>\n
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And I want to introduce them to you now. They are three people who have earned the trust of their audience in the mornings. They are syndicated morning drive. You don\u2019t know how hard that is. It\u2019s very difficult to get local radio stations to give up their morning drive to a syndicated show, and these three have pulled that off. It\u2019s amazing. They have built a substantial audience. They are Charlamagne Tha God, Angela Yee and DJ Envy. They are cohosts of what\u2019s called The Breakfast Club.<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: Yes.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Every Democrat candidate for president this year has made it their business to appear on The Breakfast Club, and now it\u2019s my honor to appear on The Breakfast Club even though I\u2019m not a Democrat. Now, guys, can I tell you why I wanted to have you here? You know, the George Floyd story is being lost.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Right.<\/p>\n
RUSH: There are two things happening in America, and it sickens me what happened to him, legitimate national outrage about a policeman\u2019s criminal brutality has been hijacked. And I don\u2019t want to forget about George Floyd. What happened to George Floyd sickened me. And I wanted to reach out and tell you all this. I want to make sure you have no doubt. And I\u2019m not the only American who feels this way, the senselessness of it.<\/p>\n
You know, we\u2019re only given one life. We don\u2019t get a do-over. We only get one. We all take it for granted because, you know, it just happened. We\u2019re born, we don\u2019t even remember that. But George Floyd had his taken away from him. He didn\u2019t lose it. He had it taken away from him in a senseless, stupid way. And I think most Americans are just as angry and sad about this as I am, and I\u2019m also the angry the cops that stood around there and didn\u2019t do anything to stop it. I can\u2019t tell you how frustrating it is, and I just wanted to share the emotion I have with you guys about this and to try to convey to you that I actually think most Americans are just as sickened and outraged by it as I am.<\/p>\n
ANGELA YEE: Yeah, and you know what one of the worst things is I feel like we\u2019re so accustomed to being in these situations where we get frustrated, where nothing happens, and these police officers are back out doing the same thing over and over again, and that\u2019s part of the frustration, is this is not an isolated incident. This is something that\u2019s been happening in our community, it hasn\u2019t stopped, we don\u2019t see when it will stop, and I think people are frustrated, and it\u2019s a combination of so many different things right now.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Well, that\u2019s I think absolutely right. If you looked at the actual circumstance here, you had what happened to him and it\u2019s on video.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Right.<\/p>\n
RUSH: You\u2019ve got the cop, the cop standing there almost looking like he\u2019s bragging or having fun exerting power. How stupid is the cop? Can the cop not be aware of what we in this country are going through precisely because of what he\u2019s doing at that moment? How can anybody be that insensitive or stupid? It\u2019s beyond me to understand.<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: It almost felt like the more that people were telling him that he was killing \u2019em and that there was blood coming out of his nose and that he was lifeless, it was giving him a hard-on. He really felt like — just looking at his face, I think that was probably the closest thing to a devil that I\u2019ve ever seen in my life. That gave him a hard-on. It was his ego that just allowed him to keep applying pressure and applying pressure and taking that man\u2019s life.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Let me ask you a question, Rush.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Sure.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: This is Charlamagne talking. We\u2019ve seen numerous police killings of unarmed black people in this country. Why is the George Floyd situation the one that\u2019s making you say enough is enough and this needs to stop. Why this situation in particular?<\/p>\n
RUSH: ‘Cause I\u2019m fed up with it. I mean, I\u2019m not tolerant of any of them, but I\u2019m fed up with it, Charlamagne. None of this — see, to me — and I know that you\u2019re gonna disagree with me on this. To me, this is not America. It\u2019s a sad —<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Oh, no, it\u2019s definitely America.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Well, see, but it\u2019s not what we can be. It\u2019s not what we have been. We\u2019re the greatest nation in the history of the world, and we haven\u2019t achieved that on the basis —<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: For who, though, Rush? I think that — I think it\u2019s easy for you to say because you\u2019re a white male and that comes with a different level of privilege, and I do think America does work, but it works for the people that it was designed to work for. It doesn\u2019t work for everybody else the way it works for you.<\/p>\n
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RUSH: Well, it can. That\u2019s the point of America, it can for anybody who wants to adapt to it, for anybody who wants to try to take advantage of the unique opportunities that exist in the United States. We\u2019re the only nation that\u2019s ever enshrined the concept of individual liberty and freedom in our founding documents. We\u2019re the only country that\u2019s ever created a document to govern ourselves that limits government. Now, you know, look, gang, I can\u2019t say that I\u2019ve faced discrimination — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
ANGELA YEE: George Floyd wasn\u2019t doing anything wrong. Breonna Taylor got killed in her house. She wasn\u2019t doing anything wrong. And so it\u2019s not that people haven\u2019t adapted to things, it\u2019s just that we get targeted and then there\u2019s no punishment when the police officers commit these crimes against us.<\/p>\n
RUSH: No, no, I —<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Talk about it —<\/p>\n
RUSH: I didn\u2019t mean to conflate that George Floyd could have stopped what was gonna happen to him. Don\u2019t misunderstand.<\/p>\n
ANGELA YEE: Okay.<\/p>\n
RUSH: George Floyd is the essence of innocence. But what I\u2019m saying is is that America is a place with robust opportunity if you want to go out and look for it and find it. Now, the people ripping up the streets today and last night, the Antifa types, they don\u2019t care to find the opportunity. They disagree with the whole construct of America.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: I gotta push back on you with that too. It\u2019s not just the Antifa types, you know what I\u2019m saying? Like you see all these white folks out there protesting, looting, raising hell, you know what I\u2019m saying? Let\u2019s not act like there isn\u2019t 40 million people who have filed for unemployment in America, folks that have been sitting around the last three months waiting on stimulus checks, more than 44% of those people have been denied unemployment checks are still waiting on \u2019em to come. People of all races are broke. They don\u2019t know where their next meal is coming from.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Well, yeah.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Their savings are exhausted, if they had any. They don\u2019t know how they\u2019re gonna pay bills, so of course they gonna go out there and loot, of course they\u2019re angry and frustrated.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Unnecessarily, it turns out, unnecessarily. There was no reason to shut down the country, there was no reason to lock everybody — of course you put 40 million people out of work and tell \u2019em, you know, you penalize them when they do try to open their businesses, you\u2019re gonna create a powder keg, a powder keg has been created.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: That\u2019s right. That\u2019s correct, that\u2019s why I can\u2019t allow you to say that it\u2019s just Antifa out there because it is a lot of white people who are frustrated — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
RUSH: Well, but the Antifa people — look, look, look. The Antifa people are the violent ones. The Antifa people are the ones that are trying to capitalize on it. Of course there\u2019s some legitimate heartfelt people out there peacefully protesting. But look, you guys, let me tell you, you are a testament to the opportunity available in America. Look at you. How did you do it? What did you have to overcome to become The Breakfast Club and what did you have to overcome to become dominant in morning drive in American radio? Who held you back or what were you able to overcome in order to do it? The opportunity is there, is the only thing I\u2019m saying.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Right. But Rush — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: You talk about peacefully protest, right? And you were very opinionated about Colin Kaepernick when he was peacefully protesting, right? And now people are saying, “Oh, they\u2019re not peacefully protesting.” This is the same thing Colin Kaepernick was kneeling for that the world was so upset about and the world said he\u2019s taking it too far and he doesn\u2019t know what he\u2019s talking about. This is exactly the reason why he was kneeling and protesting. The fact that an unarmed, African-American man was doing nothing, they still don\u2019t even know if he had a fake $10 or $20 bill or not. And that man kneeled on George Floyd for damn near nine sec — nine minutes and killed that man, murdered that man.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Look, I – (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: And looked at us like, yeah, I\u2019m doing it and what?<\/p>\n
RUSH: Guys, I\u2019m trying to tell you, I\u2019m all with you, I\u2019m a thousand percent with you on this. This is why I wanted to talk to you because I know that there are — you know, we all have preconceptions that we live under and biases that we live under, and I wanted to reach out to you guys specifically, you were the ones that I was told to speak to, that this is intolerable. Now — but — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: I\u2019m happy to have the conversation. I\u2019m glad you\u2019re having it because I think your audience needs to hear it. And, you know, you said something a little a while ago and I wanted to talk about that. This is a country, America, that denies, you know, black people justice and just plain decency and then they act like we\u2019re just supposed to be happy to be here because it allows a few of us, when a majority of us out here catch hell —<\/p>\n
RUSH: When did I say that? (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
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CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: — oh, you said — you said — you said, you know, you guys made it —<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: You guys made it. (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Y\u2019all are successful, you know what I\u2019m saying? But the rest of us are catching hell out here. All I heard is George Floyd. You\u2019re acting like this is an isolated incident.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Charlamagne, you\u2019re adding things to my mouth that I didn\u2019t say. You\u2019re adding syllables I have not uttered. I was trying to be complimentary of you and I\u2019m trying to illustrate – (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Yes.<\/p>\n
RUSH: — that you are an example to others that want to try, you can succeed. Let me ask a quick question. If the Minnesota Vikings had announced two nights ago that they were gonna hire Colin Kaepernick, would the riots have stopped?<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: No! Nobody gives a (bleep) about that. What are you talking about?<\/p>\n
RUSH: Well, you guys brought up Kaepernick.<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: Kaepernick. His name is Kaepernick. (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
RUSH: Kaepernick. Sorry. You guys brought up Colin — and I\u2019m just asking, if the Vikings had signed him, would the people of Minnesota, oh, good okay, he\u2019s got a gig, we\u2019re not gonna protest anymore.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: No, because that\u2019s not gonna stop white supremacy, that\u2019s not gonna stop racism. Okay? (Unintelligible) George Floyd, but that was not an isolated incident. This is a regular occurrence for black people in this country —<\/p>\n
RUSH: Let me ask you — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: — don\u2019t want to change the system.<\/p>\n
RUSH: How do you stop it? (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: I have a question for you. I want to know. How are you gonna use your privilege as a white male to combat this prejudice. You got a direct line to Donald Trump. (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
RUSH: No, wait a minute, I don\u2019t buy into the notion of white privilege. See, I think that\u2019s a liberal —<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: You\u2019re being —<\/p>\n
RUSH: That\u2019s a liberal — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: You\u2019re being delusional.<\/p>\n
RUSH: — political construct right along the lines of political correctness. It\u2019s designed to intimidate and get people to shut up and admit they\u2019re guilty of doing things they haven\u2019t done. I don\u2019t have any white privilege — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Do you know what white privilege is? White privilege is that what happened to George Floyd would not have happened to a white man.<\/p>\n
RUSH: If what happened to George Floyd had happened to a white man we probably wouldn\u2019t have even heard about it.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Huh?<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: We definitely would have heard about it. You definitely —<\/p>\n
RUSH: You think so? If George Floyd — if George — if George — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: — be killed by –(crosstalk)<\/p>\n
ANGELA YEE: Yeah, I would like to — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
RUSH: I don\u2019t think — if George Floyd — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
ANGELA YEE: Rush, there\u2019s a lot of instances where this does happen and we don\u2019t hear about it. There\u2019s a lot of times that there\u2019s no video that exists and then people are — police officers lie and they say this is what happened, just like we\u2019ve seen it happen so many different times where fortunately there was video. There\u2019s a lot of cases that won\u2019t make it.<\/p>\n
RUSH: I think – (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
ANGELA YEE: That don\u2019t go viral. (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Never hear about it, that never make it to TV, that never make it to social media because there is no phones, there is — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
RUSH: I think you misunderstood what I said, guys. I said if George Floyd were white, we wouldn\u2019t have heard of this. And if the same thing had happened to him, we wouldn\u2019t have heard about it, it wouldn\u2019t be — you know, we — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Would you be outraged, right?<\/p>\n
RUSH: How do we end racism? Would you tell me — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: Wouldn\u2019t hear about it, you know why, because that cop would have been arrested, he would have been fired, he could have charged with murder a long time before all of this.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Charged, yeah.<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: Immediately, before the video hit social media he would have been charged, fired, arrested and locked up and all that if George Floyd was white.<\/p>\n
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CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: There\u2019s a Muslim officer in Minneapolis now doing 12 and a half years because he accidentally killed a white woman. I mean, I don\u2019t get it. But let me ask you a question, Rush, \u2019cause I remember in 2014 you criticized President Obama, and you said he should do more to ease racial tensions in the wake of the grand jury decision to not indict the white police officers in Ferguson. You said if he wants to he can inspire and I think it\u2019s called for in this situation. Shouldn\u2019t that same advice apply to President Trump right now?<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: Absolutely.<\/p>\n
RUSH: I think it applies to all presidents. Absolutely, no question about it. That\u2019s one of their roles is to calm circumstances and situations like this. But look, guys, our time is dwindling. Can I ask you — you keep harping on white privilege and racism. Would you tell me how to end it? What can we do to end this so that you are not frustrated and angry and feeling like whatever you feel like? ‘Cause I hate it. You guys — we\u2019re all Americans here and I don\u2019t like the fact that you\u2019re – (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: Arrest those others officers — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
RUSH: — angry all the time, so what can do to stop the racism.<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Here\u2019s the thing, right? As long as there\u2019s a system of white supremacy, you know, there will always be these type of situations, you know, it doesn\u2019t matter who\u2019s in the White House, if that person is not willing to dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy. If that person is not willing to change legislation that disproportionality impacts black folk it doesn\u2019t matter. You know what I\u2019m saying? Like we\u2019ve seen this a million times — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
RUSH: Okay. But tell me what happened — you had four years of Barack Obama. You had Americans, white Americans voting for Obama \u2019cause they wanted to say we\u2019re not racist, we\u2019re not a racist country. You had people electing the first African-American president in our history. He served for eight years. Why isn\u2019t there anything to show for it that makes you less angry than you were then?<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Once again, it doesn\u2019t matter who\u2019s in the White House if that person is not willing to dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
RUSH: Come on, guys. Elections don\u2019t matter now? (crosstalk)<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Here\u2019s the thing. I think that we gotta stop acting like white supremacy isn\u2019t done by design, the whole function of systemic racism is to marginalize black people and it\u2019s very hard to get any damn near 80-year-old white man to change a system that\u2019s been working for him and his family for years, I don\u2019t care if it\u2019s Biden or Trump. So, once again, we need people that are willing to dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy, period.<\/p>\n
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RUSH: Okay, so let me… Let me ask you guys a question. Why do you still vote Democrat?<\/p>\n
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ANGELA YEE: I vote for whoever I think is the best candidate.<\/p>\n
RUSH: Because Democrats —<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: I\u2019m voting my (crosstalk).<\/p>\n
RUSH: — have been promising to fix your grievances for 50 years and you have the same grievances, you have the same complaints. They haven\u2019t done a damn thing for you. They haven\u2019t even punished the people that you think are responsible for the racism and bigotry being done to you. Why do you keep supporting them?<\/p>\n
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: Yeah, and, you know, I don\u2019t disagree with you, and that\u2019s why I\u2019m not letting nobody politicize black pain and tell us this is one person\u2019s fault just because they are trying to win an election in November. This is America\u2019s fault — and the War on Drugs, mass incarceration, segregation, slavery, all of those things are and have been the proverbial knee on the back of black folks\u2019 neck. And \u2019til somebody\u2019s willing to dismantle the mechanism of white supremacy, nothin\u2019 is gonna change.<\/p>\n
ANGELA YEE: Well, Rush, I also don\u2019t want to lose track of what we\u2019re talking about here, because I know we\u2019re trying to focus on George Floyd and what\u2019s happening with him and how can we take some actionable steps to move forward and what can be done, right? So, on your end, what are some things that you feel like can be done?<\/p>\n
RUSH: I think that cop should be charged with first-degree murder —<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: Absolutely.<\/p>\n
RUSH: — and I think that the guys standing around ought to be charged, the other cops that were standing around. I think it\u2019s time to end this. Look, we are all aware of police brutality. We\u2019re all aware of the actions that some rogue cops take, and it\u2019s way too many of \u2019em against African-American men, and it\u2019s time to stop. You know, I\u2019m not a policeman; I\u2019m not an executive in a police department.<\/p>\n
But it seems to me that if those people end up being charged instead of shielded when they commit murder… There shouldn\u2019t be any legalized murder. And that would be one way to at least get a start on making sure it doesn\u2019t happen. George Floyd, from everything I\u2019ve been able to tell, was a good guy. He was a nice guy, had a family, did not even come close to deserving having his life taken from him like this.<\/p>\n
DJ ENVY: Not at all. Now, do you agree with the way that the media\u2019s portraying everything? You\u2019re in media. You know, media\u2019s a white media, of course. Do you agree with how they\u2019re portraying everything that\u2019s going on right now?<\/p>\n
RUSH: Pshew! God, I don\u2019t think we\u2019ve gotten the truth out of most media in three or four years. I don\u2019t… No, and I think that\u2019s another reason why people are mad, you guys. They know they\u2019ve been lied to! They were lied to about so many things for two, three, four years now. And so now they don\u2019t know what to believe coming out of the media.<\/p>\n
I don\u2019t care what it is — Fox, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post — there doesn\u2019t seem to be anywhere in our culture that people have trust in an institution or series of institutions that provide a backstop and reliability when something like this happens. And I think that\u2019s creating or contributing to even more of the unrest that\u2019s happening out there.<\/p>\n
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RUSH: And this is our first break. We miscalculated this by some two minutes. And since I\u2019m host, I\u2019m gonna take the hit for it. We could have kept this going for another couple of minutes. There\u2019s another nine minutes of this, is the point. And we\u2019re gonna get to that after our bottom-of-the-hour break. If you\u2019re just tuning in and wondering what this was, just to briefly reset the table — and I still haven\u2019t…<\/p>\n
I still haven\u2019t gotten over watching the video of what happened to George Floyd. As I say, I\u2019ve run out of words to describe the combination of anger and… I don\u2019t know. There was obviously sadness and so forth, but just livid, livid rage over this. I don\u2019t understand how the cop could do it! I don\u2019t know how one person can do that to another person.<\/p>\n
I know there\u2019s cruelty out there. I know. I\u2019m not naive. But it\u2019s just so senseless. The guy has his life taken! He\u2019s a good guy. So I wanted… Rather than just to sit here and tell everyone of you about this frustration, I wanted to reach out to some people in the African-American community and talk to them about it. It\u2019s said that we need to communicate, get to know each other and so forth.<\/p>\n
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So I asked around and I said, “Who in media do I go to? Where in media do I go if I want to reach the largest segment of African-Americans who listen to radio in America?” Everybody said, “The Breakfast Club,” and so that\u2019s what happened. We taped a conversation yesterday afternoon at three o\u2019clock with The Breakfast Club, and the three voices that you were hearing are DJ Envy, Angela Yee, and Charlamagne tha God.<\/p>\n
These people have been in the news a lot lately. Every Democrat presidential candidate has gone through their show, and it was on this program that Charlamagne tha God did the interview with Biden where Biden said if you ain\u2019t voting Democrat — if you ain\u2019t voting for me — “you ain\u2019t black,” and where he caught all kinds of grief for that.<\/p>\n
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CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: You can\u2019t see how white people are just treated better in this country than black people?<\/p>\n![\"\"](\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/APP-060120-Breakfast-Club-99-a.jpg\")
CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n