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RUSH: Here\u2019s what\u2019s happening with the legislation. And I myself, ladies and gentlemen, even this morning was a little confused based on what I was reading and seeing in the media. I thought I understood it, then I\u2019m reading things people are writing and I thought, ‘This doesn\u2019t make any sense.\u2019 And I thought, well, maybe I\u2019m wrong here. But as usual, I was right. <\/p>\n

The confusion is this reconciliation bill, the amendments to the Senate bill that the House posted yesterday. Everybody\u2019s getting caught up in those. It\u2019s important, but here\u2019s what is going to happen, if it happens. Once the House passes reconciliation, that is, the Senate bill and this amendment package that they posted yesterday, once they pass that as one bill, Pelosi will break out the Senate bill, she\u2019ll separate the Senate bill, having claimed it was passed as part of reconciliation. This is the deem-and-pass. The House thinks they\u2019re voting only on the changes, the members of the House think they\u2019re voting only on the changes, so Pelosi will break out the Senate bill having claimed that it was passed, and then she and whoever is in charge of it Senate at the time will certify that they have a bill, and they will send the bill to the Senate. The Senate bill alone — no reconciliation bill goes to the president — the Senate bill alone goes to the president, he signs it, and we have national health care. And this could happen Sunday, unless a court steps in to stop it, which we can\u2019t possibly know if that will happen in advance. <\/p>\n

Now all this talk about the Senate stopping the reconciliation or aspects of it does not stop the Senate bill from becoming law. The Senate, dealing with the changes the House makes, will not have one thing to do with whether or not we get national health care on Sunday. At that point, all that\u2019s happening is we\u2019re fighting the amendments to the bill that the House wants. Now, the Republican senators, like Coburn and McConnell and the rest are saying to the House Democrats, ‘Now, look, you House Democrats, we\u2019re not going to make this easy for you. We\u2019re going to track everything that was given to you, we\u2019re going to track every bribe, and we\u2019re going to publicize every bribe. We\u2019re going to stop every nomination — put it on hold — that you may have been promised to vote for this thing.\u2019 In other words, the House Republicans are saying, ‘You\u2019re not gonna get all these amendments. You can\u2019t believe Pelosi when she promises you that these are going to happen.\u2019 <\/p>\n

For example, this Earl Pomeroy guy getting a big deal for his bank in Bismarck, the one bank that will be exempt from the student loan change, the one bank that will be allowed to make student loans, the one private bank other than the government that will be allowed to make student loans. Mr. Pomeroy, you\u2019re not going to get that. This is the point. Obama is going to sign this bill without that in it and then you\u2019re going to have to rely on the Senate agreeing to all these changes. Pelosi\u2019s making all these promises, and I\u2019m sure Harry Reid is assuring these House Democrats, ‘Oh, yeah, we\u2019ll take care of this for you.\u2019 And the Senate Republicans are saying, ‘Nah-uh, we\u2019re going to fight this at every step of the way and we have a lot of tools at our disposal. You\u2019re not gonna get all these amendments, so don\u2019t vote for reconciliation and think you\u2019re going to get away with telling your constituents that you voted for reconciliation under the assumption that these amendments will be enacted.\u2019 <\/p>\n

These House Democrats are actually being told that when it comes time to run for reelection, that they\u2019ll be able to say, ‘We didn\u2019t vote the Senate bill, we voted reconciliation.\u2019 And the Republicans in the Senate say, ‘You go ahead and try it but we\u2019re going to tell everybody what you voted for. Whether you deem it or whether not, the Senate bill will have become law because of you.\u2019 The Senate Republicans are going to make it as difficult as possible for these reconciliation amendments to be passed. The Senate would have to approve them, go back to the House, tidy it up and then as a separate bill go to the White House for Obama to sign it before all of these deals, before all of these promises that Pelosi\u2019s making to these members actually become law. So if a House Democrat votes for reconciliation, which is deemed to include the Senate bill, you are knowingly voting for the Senate bill, warts and all. This is what the House Democrats must understand. And I don\u2019t know how much they\u2019re being lied to about this and I don\u2019t know how confused they are. I\u2019ll betcha 90% of them are not going to read the reconciliation bill, and probably haven\u2019t read the Senate bill. I\u2019m sure they don\u2019t really know full well what\u2019s going on. <\/p>\n

It is purposely confusing. It is confusing to the point of distraction. All Obama is doing Sunday, all he\u2019s waiting for at the White House is to sign the Senate bill the minute Pelosi and Biden or whoever is in charge of the Senate at the time certify it and send it to him, and then he leaves. Obama will not wait around for debate over reconciliation between the Senate and the House, he won\u2019t care about that, he can come back for that later. The idea that they may go ahead and try to fulfill the promises made to House members is even dubious at best. But the House Republicans and the Senate Republicans are going to make sure that every American knows about every bribe, every sweetheart deal, and they\u2019re pounding the halls of Congress right now telling these Democrats, don\u2019t believe the promises because the Republicans in the Senate are going to block as many of these things as possible. If you\u2019re being promised that your bank will be the only bank to be involved in the student loan program, don\u2019t count on that, Mr. Pomeroy, don\u2019t count on it because we\u2019re going to stop it. <\/p>\n

As many of these amendments as possible will be stopped through a legitimate legislative process of objections, amendments, points of order, parliamentary procedure, whatever. Everybody says, ‘Well, but, Rush, they\u2019ll only need 51 votes to pass these things.\u2019 I actually believe, folks, as I\u2019ve said all week, that after Obama signs this, the only people that are going to be openly talking about this are Republicans. Boehner said it today in his press conference just now, once big pieces of legislation are signed everybody forgets it and moves on to the next thing. He said it ain\u2019t going to happen in this case. We\u2019re never going to let people forget what happened here. We\u2019re going to be reminding people all the way through November and all the way through the election of 2012. This will not be forgotten. The temperature and pressure will be ratcheted up by the day to make sure that all of these changes in the reconciliation bill in the House do not happen over in the Senate. And I, again, would not be surprised if the Senate just drops it because this is such a negative, this is such a drag, they don\u2019t want any more talk, they don\u2019t want any more debate, they don\u2019t want any more opportunities for the details of this to become known, as we get closer and closer to the reelection season and the election itself in November. <\/p>\n

All right, a brief time-out. I hope that clears it up. Snerdley, are you clear on it now? I was confused. My confusion was I thought what I just told you was the case, then I got up today and I started reading things and I could swear people think this whole thing — they\u2019re reporting it on television that this is not over Sunday. That it goes to the Senate, the reconciliation fight happens, and Obama not signing anything \u2019til the Senate finishes and that\u2019s just not true. Obama\u2019s going to sign this Sunday because Pelosi\u2019s going to separate or break out the Senate bill from her reconciliation package, and it\u2019s a done deal, we got national health care, and the Senate bill is horrible. The Senate bill is absolutely a train wreck. They\u2019re doing everything they can today as well to make everybody think, oh, we\u2019re close, Clyburn just came out, ‘I think we\u2019ve got the votes now, I think we\u2019ve got the votes,\u2019 and Carl Cameron at Fox, ‘Well, he\u2019s normally very cautious, if he\u2019s saying that they probably do have the votes.\u2019 They\u2019re still ten short. <\/p>\n

There\u2019s a story, big news, big press release today. This is the kind of thing designed to make you think it\u2019s over: ‘Congressional Hispanic Caucus Calls for Passage of Health Care Reform — The Congressional Hispanic Caucus (CHC) today called for passage of President Obama\u2019s health care reform proposal, saying that it would greatly improve the quality of life for millions of Latinos.\u2019 What\u2019s the big deal about this? There are no changes here. They voted for it last time. The news is that they didn\u2019t. The news was that they\u2019re thinking about not voting for it unless they get some assurances on immigration, which I\u2019m sure they did. But they were never going to vote ‘no.\u2019 They have not voted ‘no.\u2019 But a lot of people were misled by this whole thing. Every Congressional Hispanic Caucus member voted for the bill last November after threatening not to. They\u2019re going to vote for it this time after threatening not to, but they have never been in the ‘no\u2019 category. But it\u2019s being portrayed here like, whoa, Pelosi\u2019s picked up a whole caucus today. She didn\u2019t pick up anything with the Congressional Hispanic Caucus coming out and lobbying for the bill\u2019s passage. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, this carve-out for Earl Pomeroy is being called the ‘Bismarck Bribe.\u2019 I need to clarify something. The bank of North Dakota is a socialist bank. It\u2019s not a private bank, it\u2019s state owned bank, and that\u2019s the bank that has been given a special dispensation from the student loan law and will be allowed it make student loans. Senator Kent Conrad of North Dakota says he doesn\u2019t want this. Now, this is key, because Conrad is crucial budget committee when it comes to reconciliation and Conrad does not want any special deals for North Dakota. So, Mr. Pomeroy, you gotta understand something here that your little carve-out here likely is not going to happen if this reconciliation ever does really get to the Senate and if they ever do actually take it up, the bank of North Dakota would be allowed ‘to issue federally subsidized student loans, meaning that it would be the only lender remaining outside of the Education Department\u2019s direct-lending system. <\/p>\n

‘The Bank of North Dakota is a state-owned lender that Democratic aides described as representing the type of nonprofit entity they want to encourage. Critics of the loan bill suggested the provision was designed to win the support of a key Democrat, Sen. Kent Conrad of North Dakota,\u2019 but he doesn\u2019t want it. He is on record saying he doesn\u2019t want it. It\u2019s also designed to get Earl Pomeroy, a member of Congress. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: Let me run through this, again, folks. I did this at the open of the program because even I, ladies and gentlemen, got confused watching media this morning. I thought I had this all figured out, and now I\u2019m watching and reading media, and I\u2019m saying, ‘Wait, wait. Something\u2019s wrong here.\u2019 ‘Cause what I was reading was that the reconciliation package — the amendments, if you will — that the House Democrats are being promised to secure their ‘yes\u2019 votes, was going to be part of the deemed-to-have-passed Senate bill and sent to Obama and that when Obama signed it, that the Senate bill plus these changes would become law, and I got that impression because of two things. A, they were saying it; and B, they were treating this reconciliation like it was more important than the Senate bill. <\/p>\n

And my instincts and what I thought I knew, was, ‘No, no, no, no. The reconciliation bill is not nearly as important.\u2019 Ah! My instincts were right. Here is what is happening. Once the House passes reconciliation — and I hate that word, because it is not accurately describing what\u2019s going on here. This is an amendment package. This is the House changing what they don\u2019t like about the Senate bill in a separate piece of legislation. They are not going to vote on the Senate bill. They\u2019re going to vote on their changes. They\u2019re going to have ‘deemed\u2019 the Senate bill to have passed as they vote on reconciliation. That\u2019s what they\u2019re trying to get 216 votes for, is this package of changes. What the House Democrats need to know is that they\u2019re not voting on that Sunday, in reality. They are voting on the Senate bill. They are being misled and lied to by their own leadership. <\/p>\n

If their own leadership is promising them all these special deals — like the Bismarck bank and whatever else that these people are being given — those are not going to see the light of day until the Senate agrees with them. Obama is not going to be signing those into law. All Obama is going to sign is the Senate bill, and this vote Sunday, the House Democrats have to know that that\u2019s what they\u2019re voting on. Now, they think they\u2019re voting on reconciliation, this package of amendments — and that\u2019s what Pelosi\u2019s telling them they\u2019re voting on, and in their minds, they are. They don\u2019t want to vote on the Senate bill. They want to be able to say they didn\u2019t cast the votes for it. ‘Oh, yeah, that was ‘deemed\u2019 to have passed.\u2019 But after they vote, whenever they vote, Pelosi is then going to separate the Senate bill, take it out, break it out. That alone will be sent over to the Senate, and whoever\u2019s running it — either Biden or Byrd, the pro tem — will certify it. <\/p>\n

Pelosi will certify it for the House. After the Senate certifies the Senate bill and the Senate bill only, that gets sent to Obama. He will sign it in five seconds and throw the biggest party you have ever seen, and we will have national health care. We will not have any of the amendments, the reconciliation that the House voted on. They have to go over to the Senate, and they will do so separately — and there is where the Republican senators are saying, ‘Look, you House Democrats. We\u2019re not going to make this easy for you to get these promised changes.\u2019 You\u2019re not going to get all these amendments, so don\u2019t vote for reconciliation and think you\u2019re going to get away with telling your constituents that you voted for reconciliation under the assumption that these amendments would be enacted. If you vote for reconciliation, House Democrats, you are knowingly voting for the Senate bill, warts and all. You are not voting for these changes you\u2019ve been promised. <\/p>\n

So Obama\u2019s up there, he\u2019s waiting at the White House to sign the Senate bill the minute Pelosi and Biden or whoever over there certifies it, and he flies off or throws his party or whatever. He\u2019s not going to wait around. There\u2019s not going to be debate next week on the reconciliation package. There isn\u2019t going to be debate next week on these changes. Obama\u2019s not going to wait around for the Senate to act on that before he signs this — and this is what got me confused. I\u2019m hearing news media people saying, ‘Oh, see, even if they vote Sunday, this ain\u2019t over. Oh, no. It goes over to the Senate and all these debates have to happen.\u2019 (groans) No, it doesn\u2019t. The Senate bill is going to be separated, Obama\u2019s going to sign it, and we\u2019ve got national health care in a horrible bill. The Senate bill is rotgut horrible. So what needs to happen here is that these House Democrats have to know, somebody\u2019s going to have to sit them down and tell them, that they are in fact voting for the Senate bill when they vote reconciliation. <\/p>\n

They think they\u2019re voting for their changes to keep their base happy or to keep the reelection chances looking strong. They think that they\u2019re voting X, Y, and Z but they\u2019re not. They are, in effect, voting for the Senate bill because that\u2019s all that Obama will see. And then the Republican senators are saying (paraphrased), ‘Okay. Every one of you House Democrats that got a special deal, a bribe, or a promised job; we\u2019re going to know who you are, we\u2019re gonna know what you got, and we\u2019re gonna tell everybody what you got, and we\u2019re gonna prevent you from getting it. We\u2019re gonna stop every one of these things as best we can. We\u2019re going to hog the process. We\u2019re gonna use amendments. You may need 51 votes over here in the Senate to get this stuff, but we\u2019re gonna make sure that you don\u2019t get very many votes, period, on any of these things.\u2019 That\u2019s what Coburn has said. That\u2019s what McConnell has said. They\u2019re going to do everything they can. That\u2019s why Coburn said yesterday (paraphrased): ‘You better be prepared. If you\u2019re a House Democrat and you vote for this, you better be prepared to defend the bribe that you got.\u2019<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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