{"id":34912,"date":"2011-05-19T01:15:21","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T01:15:21","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T01:15:21","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T01:15:21","slug":"democrats_will_violate_constitution_to_deem_obamacare_law_of_land","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/democrats_will_violate_constitution_to_deem_obamacare_law_of_land\/","title":{"rendered":"Democrats Will Violate Constitution to &#8220;Deem&#8221; Obamacare Law of Land"},"content":{"rendered":"<section>\n<p>RUSH: Heritage, Morning Bell. I\u2019m going to get started on this, then I\u2019m gonna take a break and we\u2019ll come back to it. It\u2019s a little complicated only because of what\u2019s so convoluted and unconstitutional about what the House of Representatives is trying to do here. But there is no bill but the Senate bill. The reconciliation bill, all these changes that they want to attach to a &#8216;deemed\u2019-to-have-passed Senate bill that has not been written. They say they\u2019re waiting on the score of whatever the yet-to-be written bill is from the Congressional Budget Office. Well, a little hint for you. Pelosi got that number yesterday. She\u2019s holding it back. I don\u2019t know what it is. I do know what it is. I\u2019ll guarantee you the number is under a trillion dollars. That\u2019s the tipping point number. <\/p>\n<p>So she\u2019s been working with the CBO and she\u2019s told \u2019em whatever\u2019s hit there, but there\u2019s nothing to score. Again, there\u2019s not even a draft outline of this. It\u2019s why they don\u2019t have any votes! The only bill they have right now is the Senate bill. They haven\u2019t put together this reconciliation thing, yet she got a score from the CBO yesterday, I\u2019m told, and she\u2019s going to announce it tomorrow to try to ignite some momentum heading into the weekend. Her objective, if she can do it, is to pass this bill on Saturday when there aren\u2019t as many people running around. This is her objective. Now, we\u2019re told all over the place that they\u2019re 11 votes shy, 12 votes shy, 16 votes shy, 5 votes shy. <\/p>\n<p>There are four different estimates coming from the four different leaders of Pelosi\u2019s leadership team. But what is known is that right now there is no bill except the Senate bill, and there was another poll that came out yesterday (the NBC News\/Wall Street Journal poll released theirs) and it showed the percentage of Americans who believe Obama\u2019s health care plan is a bad idea is at the highest level since they started asking the question last year, 48%. Only 36% of Americans are willing to call Obama\u2019s plan or the Senate plan or whoever\u2019s plan a good idea, and that\u2019s up a whole four points from the time Louise Slaughter started writing things about it. So there\u2019s no improvement. It\u2019s worsening. There is no reconciliation bill yet. <\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: You know, there are a lot of people who are starting to say (John Hood is one from the CarolinaJournal.com) if they pass this using the Slaughter Solution &#8212; in other words, literally shredding the Constitution. If they do this in a lawless way, then he\u2019s not going to comply. He\u2019s simply not going to comply and he\u2019s urging everybody else not to comply. We don\u2019t have to comply with illegally passed bills. We don\u2019t have to comply with things which are unconstitutional. For example, maybe we can just &#8216;deem\u2019 our tax returns to have been filed. But we don\u2019t actually file \u2019em. We just &#8216;deem\u2019 our taxes to have been paid. <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125108.Par.89380.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"341\" class=\"alignright\"\/>We just &#8216;deem\u2019 it! I mean, if they can &#8216;deem\u2019 to have passed laws, we can certainly say that we are &#8216;deemed\u2019 to have complied with them. The word &#8216;deemed\u2019 means what? It means pretend! That\u2019s what it means. We\u2019re going to pretend that we passed the Senate bill. That\u2019s what it means. We\u2019re going to pretend that we paid our taxes. Lawlessness? Unconstitutionality? Why do we have to comply with it? Now, let\u2019s get back to this mess that\u2019s taking place in the House of Representatives. The Senate health bill is so unpopular in the House that the leftist House leadership is desperately trying to trick the American people into believing that the House can pass the Senate bill without voting on it. There are many reasons why they want to do this but at the top of the list &#8212; and I kid you not &#8212; is that members of the House want to be able to go home during their campaign for reelection and say, &#8216;No, I did not vote for the Senate bill.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;You won\u2019t find a vote for the Senate bill. I didn\u2019t vote for it. No, no, we &#8216;deemed\u2019 it to have passed but we didn\u2019t vote for it.\u2019 They do not want to be tied to a vote on it. I know this sounds convoluted, and it is. It\u2019s unconstitutional and it is illegal. So that\u2019s why they\u2019ve come up with the Slaughter Rule which would &#8216;deem\u2019 the Senate bill passed, at the same time the House would approve a new reconciliation bill. Pelosi was crystal clear on her motives this week. She told a group of leftist bloggers, &#8216;It\u2019s more insider- and process-oriented than most people want to know about, but I like it, \u2019cause people don\u2019t have the vote on the Senate bill.\u2019 There is one increasingly glaring problem, however, with Pelosi\u2019s pass-the-bill-without-voting plan. It\u2019s impossible, proving impossible to draft that reconciliation bill. Now, again, not to insult your intelligence &#8212; you probably know &#8212; but I just want to explain what the reconciliation bill is. <\/p>\n<p>Think of it as a bunch of amendments. Think of it as the House fixes what they don\u2019t like about the Senate bill. And they end up with two separate bills. They don\u2019t end up with a reconciliation bill that is attached to the Senate bill as one bill. They end up with two separate bills. The Senate bill which they &#8216;deem\u2019 to have passed, and then their reconciliation package. And those two bills would not go back to the Senate. They would go straight to Obama. If the House votes on these this thing, that\u2019s the Slaughter Rule. They even found&#8230; The Drive-Bys are desperately looking for constitutional lawyers to say this is no problem. And they found some doofus in Maryland, someone at the University of Maryland who actually said, &#8216;Somebody show me in the Constitution where it says you can\u2019t pass two bills with one vote?\u2019 This is a guy teaching constitutional law to people. &#8216;Show me in the Constitution,\u2019 he said, &#8216;where you can\u2019t pass two bills with one vote.\u2019 <\/p>\n<p>Now, the problem is that it\u2019s proving difficult to draft that reconciliation bill. The Democrats first promised to unveil their new bill last Wednesday. Then it was Thursday and then Friday. Then they were going to release it Monday. Then we were told they were going to release it last night. As of this morning, still nothing. The Democrats say they\u2019re waiting for a score from the Congressional Budget Office before they release their bill. But there\u2019s nothing stopping them from releasing whatever text they have now and then publicizing the CBO score when it comes back. But they don\u2019t want to do the open and transparent path. They don\u2019t want to take that way. I\u2019m told from a very, very reliable source (a spy) that Pelosi\u2019s got her CBO score and she\u2019s waiting to release it tomorrow to provide some momentum. If she\u2019s got it and is going to wait to release it, then it obviously is a score that she likes, which is something under $1 trillion. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.heritage.org\/2010\/03\/17\/morning-bell-there-is-no-bill-but-the-senate-bill\/\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125108.Par.4584.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"350\" height=\"600\" class=\"alignright\"\/><\/a>Now, the Heritage Foundation insists that &#8216;getting a CBO score consistent with reconciliation is going to be very difficult,\u2019 and they tell me their reasons here. But if the House Democrats have chosen to break the law, if they have chosen to ignore the law, if they have chosen to simply violate the Constitution, then why would they stop or be stopped by any other rules? Now, here\u2019s what Heritage says will be the difficulty in &#8216;getting a CBO score consistent with reconciliation is going to be very difficult. According to House rules&#8230;\u2019 But what do they matter anymore now? &#8216;According to House rules, a reconciliation measure must reduce the deficit by at least $2 billion over five years compared to existing law. In &#8216;this case, however, &#8216;existing law\u2019 would be the yet-to-be-passed Senate bill.\u2019 It exists only in the Senate. So that\u2019s the existing law. <\/p>\n<p>&#8216;And all of the changes Democrats want to make to the Senate bill\u2019 the amendments, the reconciliation, such as &#8216;scaling back the tax on high-end health insurance policies; closing the Medicare D loophole; boosting insurance subsidies; increasing Medicaid payments; and expanding the Cornhusker Kickback\u2019 to every state. That\u2019s how they\u2019re dealing with it in the House. They\u2019re not taking it away from Ben Nelson. They\u2019re going to give it to every state, and they can\u2019t do any of this and satisfy the rule that says the bill must reduce the deficit by at least $2 billion over five years compared to existing law, which is the Senate bill. There\u2019s no way what they\u2019re writing is going to reduce the deficit at all. Even the AP today does a Fact-Check on Obama and virtually everything he\u2019s saying about this bill is a lie. <\/p>\n<p>They even point out that he says premiums are going to go down. They\u2019re not. Premiums are going up. Even the AP! It\u2019s getting to the point now&#8230; You know, I would like one of you Obama supporters in the audience to call me today and tell me one thing Obama has said about health care that\u2019s true. It would take a lot less time for you to tell me what he said that\u2019s true, than for me to sit here and listen to all the lies because he\u2019s lying about everything. None of what he\u2019s saying is factual, none of it is truthful. So expanding the Cornhusker Kickback, scaling back the tax on high-end health insurance policies, closing the Medicare D loophole &#8212; Oh, do you know they\u2019re also double counting? $500 billion in Medicare cuts are then going to be taken and applied to the new reconciliation bill. They\u2019re counting it twice. <\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re saying, &#8216;Well, we\u2019re cutting the budget by $500 billion.\u2019 You\u2019re not because you\u2019re just changing pockets. You\u2019re taking the 500 billion out of the Senate bill and you\u2019re moving it into your reconciliation bill. It\u2019s the same $500 billion. There\u2019s no cut, but they\u2019re counting it as a cut. Anything the CBO comes up with here is not going to be factual or true, either. Now, all of this means that the Democrats are going to have to identify some new revenues to make the CBO score work. &#8216;And as Congressional Quarterly reported yesterday, Democrats have not yet identified the right pay-fors to game the CBO right. That is why House Leadership has not unveiled their new bill yet: they can\u2019t figure out how to pay for it.\u2019 Now, again it\u2019s not that they care about having to pay for it. It\u2019s that they gotta have a way on paper that makes it look like it\u2019s being paid for. <\/p>\n<p>But my reaction to what Heritage says here (this is in their Morning Bell blog) is: If they\u2019re willing to go the total unconstitutional route, if they are willing to uproot the very fabric of our country to pass this&#8230; And you gotta ask yourself something about that, by the way: Just what is in this that makes it so important for them to do what they are doing? Why are they willing to lose the majority in November, in the House, maybe the Senate as well? Why are they willing to risk losing the White House in 2012? Why are they willing to openly violate the Constitution? Why? What\u2019s in this? What\u2019s in this that we don\u2019t know? What makes this so important? I think, if I had to take a stab at this: When you boil it all down, what this does is destroy the private insurance business, just wipes it out, just eliminates it &#8212; and it gets them single-payer within years without ever having to really vote on that concept. <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125108.Par.44878.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"150\" class=\"alignright\"\/>There are so many deceptions and tricks going on in this. Now, Heritage says &#8212; after all of this, after saying the House hasn\u2019t produced their new bill because &#8216;they can\u2019t figure out how to pay for it. Not that it really matters if they ever do. The reconciliation bill is never going to become law. The Senate will never pass it. They have no reason to. The Senate likes the existing Senate bill. That\u2019s why it\u2019s called &#8216;the Senate bill\u2019 &#8230; they are the ones who passed it. The White House also likes the Senate bill. As soon as the House passes it, President Obama will sign it and then leave for Asia. That\u2019s it. Obamacare will be&#8230; &#8216;the law of the land.&#8221; But my fear, going a bit beyond Heritage, is that they will do the Slaughter Solution with the claim that they have &#8216;deemed\u2019 the Senate bill to have passed. <\/p>\n<p>And then they will send the Senate bill to the president to sign without sending reconciliation to the Senate. The plan is to treat them as separate bills. The Senate bill is passed, the reconciliation bill is a second bill. So the Senate would not have to vote again, the Senate could ignore the reconciliation bill altogether, and if they wanted to, they could go ahead and say, &#8216;Okay, we\u2019re going to attach this to the Senate bill, make it one bill, and have the president sign all this.\u2019 Once you throw down the rules, once you say that we\u2019re going to &#8216;deem\u2019 it to have passed, there\u2019s no limit to what you can do. None whatsoever. Once you pretend that you\u2019ve done something, you don\u2019t have to stop pretending at all. So it is convoluted, but at the bottom of all this is: They still don\u2019t have the votes, and they don\u2019t have the votes because the members of the House despise the Senate bill. <\/p>\n<p>They don\u2019t have a reconciliation bill yet because there are however many Democrats in there that want their fingers in this pie that have to be satisfied, and it\u2019s just a mess. That\u2019s why Clyburn saying, &#8216;Oh, we might not even get to this by Easter,\u2019 and Hoyer is saying, &#8216;Ah, we don\u2019t have the votes now.\u2019 They don\u2019t have the votes to pass the Senate bill, and they never will have the votes to pass the Senate bill. It is despised in the House. This reconciliation, Slaughter Rule &#8212; and this is where Pelosi is willing to trick her own members. Go ahead and put together this amendment thing, this reconciliation bill and tell the members, &#8216;Yeah, we\u2019re fixing this. We\u2019re fixing this. All this is going to be fixed. <\/p>\n<p>&#8216;We\u2019re just going to &#8216;deem\u2019 the Senate bill to be signed. We\u2019re going to fix it. We\u2019re going to send this stuff back over to the Senate. We\u2019re going to fix it all.\u2019 But what won\u2019t happen is sending it back to the Senate. The Senate will never see it. It\u2019ll just die. The President will sign the Senate bill, &#8216;deem to have passed.\u2019 Nobody in the House will have actually voted on it, and House members get screwed. The only upside for them is they get to run home and say, &#8216;I didn\u2019t vote for the Senate bill. We &#8216;deemed\u2019 it to have passed.\u2019 This is beyond rational explanation and description. This makes Watergate look like Romper Room. This is the overthrow of the US constitutional system, orchestrated from the White House through the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. That\u2019s what\u2019s going on here. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Heritage, Morning Bell. I\u2019m going to get started on this, then I\u2019m gonna take a break and we\u2019ll come back to it. It\u2019s a little complicated only because of what\u2019s so convoluted and unconstitutional about what the House of Representatives is trying to do here. But there is no bill but the Senate bill. 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