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RUSH: Kathryn in Colleyville, Texas. Great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hello, Rush. It\u2019s great to talk to you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I was calling about Medicare and the slow erosion of freedom within the doctor community. Basically over the past two or three months, cardiology has been taken incredible pay cuts, which are impacting the practice of medicine.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Medicare and Medicaid particularly, you mean, right?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Medicare, yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Specifically, a couple of months ago the imaging that is performed in cardiologists\u2019 office took a 40% pay cut, and that was followed up this past Monday with a 20% pay cut to all physicians. It\u2019s really affecting how patients are getting taken care of. We had to lay off some employees, and it\u2019s really touch and go whether we\u2019ll be able to continue to see Medicare patients.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I was just going to say: Your only hope is to get out of the program.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, there is an out, which a lot of cardiologists — about, probably, 30% — have already accepted. Hospitals are buying out cardiology practices, only to become employees of hospitals.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. I know.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Huh. And that\u2019s (garbled).<\/p>\n

RUSH: But once you opt out of Medicare you can\u2019t take a Medicare patient ever again, right?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m not sure all the rules. I\u2019m probably out of my territory there, but there are specific rules for not taking care of Medicare patients. But the problem is that once you\u2019re an employee of a hospital you\u2019ve lost your freedom, and some practices that have been bought out have already been told by the hospitals that, ‘Oh, well, we\u2019re going to have to cut your pay 15%, and you have no recourse.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: All right. I want to try to put what you\u2019ve said here into an understandable context for the audience.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thank you, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, no, no. Stay on the line here because I need you to tell me if I\u2019m right or wrong on this.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: The odds are I\u2019m right (I\u2019m very seldom wrong) but I still want you there to correct me. Now, the very people who just yesterday in a big dog and pony show said, ‘We\u2019re going to expand coverage, we\u2019re going to insure 31 million more people, we\u2019re going to lower costs,\u2019 the same people are reducing what they are paying you and your husband, cardiologists, to the point that you cannot keep your practices going?<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s basically it. It\u2019s a huge part of this. Probably 50% of local cardiology business is Medicare.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, of course it is.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s a very successful business. Let me tell you that over the past ten years… You know, heart disease was the number one killer ten years ago. But do you know that in the last ten years the mortality has dropped 30% because of cardiology care?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. Oh, I\u2019m not surprised. Despite all these horrors like childhood obesity, the life expectancy just continues to edge upward in this country.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But my point with you, Kathryn, is that the very people who claim they know how to fix this are breaking what we have now.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly. What we have now is already so broken that basically insurance companies and government have doctor groups fighting among ourselves for what\u2019s left of our 8% of the Medicare dollar. About 8% of what goes through Medicare actually makes it to doctors. Everything else is wasted.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, Kathryn. I want to make another point about this, ladies and gentlemen. I want to go back to my old buddy Howard Fineman and his piece earlier this week in Newsweek in which he wondered, ‘Where\u2019s all the money going?\u2019 Where\u2019s all the money going if they\u2019re cutting the doctors? Well, the money isn\u2019t there. We don\u2019t have it. We have a $1.5 trillion deficit. The money is owed. The money is going to debt. But this is the real point. You listen to this doctor. I could do this all three hours any day I wanted. I could take calls from doctor after doctor after doctor who would tell the same story: Medicare payments, copayments are being cut back to the point that they can\u2019t continue to keep the office open on what the government is paying them. <\/p>\n

You have cardiology patients, heart patients, going in to get treated, and some far-off bureaucrat somewhere… Not an insurance company. We\u2019re talking Medicare here, not some evil insurance company. Some federal bureaucrat is deciding what the cardiologist is going to get paid. That\u2019s not a free market. There\u2019s no relationship to Kathryn\u2019s patients and the price of Kathryn\u2019s service. The patient isn\u2019t paying diddly-squat, or very little on Medicare and even less on Medicaid if we lump that in. We\u2019ll leave Medicaid out of it for now. There\u2019s absolutely no relationship. These people walk in with a heart problem. The service and the fee attached to it by Kathryn and her husband the cardiologists is not based on that woman\u2019s ability to pay or the patient\u2019s ability to pay or the patient\u2019s level of care that\u2019s needed, treatment, what have you. <\/p>\n

Some bureaucrat that nobody knows, sitting far away in some dank federal office, is using a computer with printouts and models — formulas and so forth — to determine what the doctor rendering the service is going to be paid. This is price fixing. This is government control. We already have this. This is why it\u2019s messed up. Now, we can get lost in the details here of the doctor\u2019s only getting reimbursed this or they\u2019re having their payments bundled here or what have you. That\u2019s not the point. The problem is, imagine if you had to check into a hotel this way and the room is 400 bucks a night, and some federal bureaucrat says, ‘We\u2019re only going to pay the hotel a hundred bucks for this,\u2019 and the hotel has to give you the room! It can\u2019t be sustained.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Steve in Rockford, Illinois, you\u2019re next. It\u2019s great to have you here, sir. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You bet.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I was wondering why nobody is even bringing up — it just seems like the logical progression to this thing if Obama is doing this all on purpose — that the first ones that are going to be sucked into this government option are all the government unions.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait, what? The reason Obama is doing what is for government unions…? Say that again.<\/p>\n

CALLER: If he\u2019s could go this all on purpose, you know, to —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. Doing what on purpose? Doing what on purpose?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Ramming the health care through and basically destroying the economy. The first ones are going to get sucked into his government-option health care plan are going to be the government unions. All teachers, all workers of state universities, everybody who works for the government — and the government unions, they\u2019ll be the first ones sucked into the government option.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Uhhhh. Yeah, but everybody\u2019s going to get sucked into the government option. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I mean, in ten years there\u2019s not going to be any other option but the government.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right. But their base, they gotta have a base to operate from first, and the first ones they\u2019re going to take in will be the government employees —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait, now.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — so the state governments can save money.<\/p>\n

RUSH: State governments, state governments can off-load…? Well, look, there are a lot of reasons why Obama wants this. It\u2019s no accident that he wore a purple tie yesterday. Purple is the official color of the SEIU. It\u2019s like Clinton. Have we forgotten? Clinton used to signal Monica Lewinsky, ‘Today is a good day,\u2019 by wearing a certain color tie. Remember that? This is Andy Stern, union driven. Folks, the union heads and the leaders of these unions, essentially, are communists. They don\u2019t like this country. I\u2019m talking about government union people. I\u2019m not talking about the UAW and Teamsters, although they might be. I\u2019m talking about unions that exist in the federal government. These are Obama\u2019s buddies, but the overall reason (we\u2019ve discussed this) that Obama wants this, is expansive government that he controls, limiting the freedom of Americans. I\u2019m getting blue in the face here saying all this over and over and over. Put quite simply, Barack Obama does not like this country as it was founded and he wants to transform it, and he has said so. But this has to be stopped because if he gets this, then he\u2019s got 90% of his objective done. Because everything about human behavior can be regulated because it has relationship to health care costs, which they — Obama — are going to have total control over. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: And we\u2019re back. It\u2019s El Rushbo, talent on loan from God-d. <\/line><\/p>\n

Look, the bottom line on the SEIU, the Service Employees International Union, they represent more than 900,000 caregivers and hospital employees, including about a 110,000 nurses and 40,000 doctors in public, private, and nonprofit medical institutions. What Andy Stern wants, the head of the SEIU, is to unionize doctors. He wants their dues. He wants to have a union control the whole health care industry here, and they\u2019re just now getting started. Obama is his blood brother. The energy behind this is more than just focused in Obama. It is concentrated in all of these unions, and they are the largest union of health care workers in the country, and they\u2019re just getting started. That\u2019s also at play here, too.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Susie in Jacksonville, Florida, nice to have you on the program. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hello there. There is another sinister side to this Medicare problem, Rush, I believe. When Obama said he was going to fundamentally change America, I think that might include less health care for Medicare recipients, because if you\u2019re older and you have less care, you die. So once a certain number of people are gone out of the system, it lightens up the load on Medicare, it lightens up on Social Security, and —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Let me ask you a question, Susie.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hm-hm.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Seriously. When did you arrive at this conclusion?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, it\u2019s been awhile. It\u2019s been awhile dawning on me, but —<\/p>\n

RUSH: I want to know exactly when. There\u2019s no wrong answer here. I\u2019m just genuinely curious. At what point and how did you arrive at this conclusion?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, you just see that tightening up on the doctors, putting them in the strain to treat Medicare and —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — older health patients like the cardiologist —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, I understand, but when did you figure out —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Way back a long time ago.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, no, no, no. Let me finish.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I can\u2019t give you an exact date.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, two months ago, six years ago, when did you figure out that if the government controls Medicare, they could determine whether or not you live or die by denying or giving you care? When did that realization hit you?<\/p>\n

CALLER: When I first heard about this plan, probably, right in there somewhere.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I gotta tell you something. You are brilliant.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, my.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Because that\u2019s exactly — forget the reasons why, culling the herd, or what have you, the whole point of getting control of health care is to regulate everybody\u2019s life, and look at how they decide now whether somebody should get treated or not: age, how sick are you, how much it\u2019s going to cost to invest in your recovery, are you going to recover. And when the government is in charge of making those decisions and not you and your doctor — <\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — guess what, we don\u2019t have any money.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: We\u2019re broke.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Didn\u2019t he also, now, I\u2019m not sure about this man\u2019s name, but wasn\u2019t it Sunstein back there, one of the czars early on said that the world would be better off if we had a third less people?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well —<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m not sure about that —<\/p>\n

RUSH: — you\u2019re talking about Cass Sunstein. He\u2019s a constitutional bomb detonator.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: There are a lot of Democrats that have said things like that, Paul Ehrlich in The Population Bomb back in 1976. That\u2019s part of the global warming argument, it\u2019s part of the health care argument, it\u2019s part of every — look, as far as the left is concerned, the only corrupting influence in the universe is human beings, Republican and conservative human beings are the only corrupting influence. Everything else is pristine, clean and pure as the wind driven snow. <\/p>\n

Bill in Houston, you\u2019re next on the Rush Limbaugh program. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush, an honor to talk to you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Got a question for you. I tried to get through to you all day yesterday and actually since the health care summit last Thursday, what you said when you first came on today, I was trying to get through to you to let you know that yesterday, because I couldn\u2019t find any new bill. And if there is no new bill —<\/p>\n

RUSH: No.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — and you say is right, and I believe 200% that you are right, that\u2019s what they\u2019re trying to do, why isn\u2019t Mitch McConnell, Eric Cantor, all the Republicans, why aren\u2019t they telling people this? Why aren\u2019t they telling them that there is no bill, that if the House passes this, it\u2019s done?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, because there\u2019s still the possibility that there will be what Obama wants in a reconciled bill. Now, they could go out and say there isn\u2019t one now but Boehner just said he expects the Senate bill to arrive on the House floor within days and for the House to begin debating it, and essentially vote on it or not vote on it. All this means is they don\u2019t have the votes for this yet but they can\u2019t go out and say there is no Obama plan, he\u2019s lying because what Obama said could end up in there. It\u2019s a technical point. I could retire and I could have three times the wealth I have if I could just get a dollar for every time I\u2019ve been asked, ‘Why don\u2019t the Republicans do X?\u2019<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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