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RUSH: Bob in Hewlett, Long Island. Great to have you on the program. You\u2019re up first today. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush, good morning. You are a gentleman and a scholar. I\u2019m a diagnostic radiologist, and I am continually appalled at how the liberals are trying to hurt the population that they claim to save. For example, the desire to move mammographies to the age of 50 not only allows cancers to go undetected in people who are most susceptible to severe breast cancer — those between the ages of 40 and 50 — but number two, it helps the attorneys because without tort reform the results of this delay can result in huge payouts to the attorneys who support the liberals in Congress and Obama in particular.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, how so? Lawsuits because of cancer undetected?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, absolutely. It\u2019s much harder to find breast cancer in younger women. The glands are denser, they are more lumpy bumpy. It is much harder to find cancer in younger women. Yet the people who have familial histories of breast cancer and are most susceptible to the most severe forms of breast cancer going undetected will now be delayed ten years. Oh, the lawyers won\u2019t care about that! They\u2019ll say, ‘Well, doctor, why didn\u2019t you suspect it?\u2019 ‘Well, homina, homina, homina… The code says 50 is the beginning.\u2019 That doesn\u2019t matter to attorneys. They\u2019re out for blood. They\u2019re out for money. And they could care less about the welfare of their clients, only how much can we shake out of physicians. Remember, Rush —<\/p>\n

RUSH: I gotta tell you a little story.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes?<\/p>\n

RUSH: I know some trial lawyers down here. I\u2019ve played in charitable golf tournaments with a couple of them. And I got a note from one of them the other day, saying, ‘When are we going to get together for dinner?\u2019 <\/p>\n

‘I\u2019ve been inviting you and inviting you, and your schedule just doesn\u2019t permit.\u2019 <\/p>\n

He said, ‘I can\u2019t do it today because I\u2019m in a medical malpractice seminar at a local hotel.\u2019 <\/p>\n

So these trial lawyers were at a seminar being advised on the latest procedures to sue people like you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You want to laugh? I was at a medical convention and next door was an attorney convention and on their brochure it said: ‘Radiology\/Mammography Department: A good place to shake dollars out of doctors.\u2019 This is what we\u2019re up against. That\u2019s why people in my field don\u2019t want to do mammographies anymore. It is the most hazardous of all procedures, and it\u2019s the most likely to save lives — and the people, unfortunately, who develop breast cancer are very angry, very upset, and they are fed by these personal injury and malpractice lawyers into saying, ‘Oh, we can bleed him.\u2019 My lawyer, who\u2019s paid for by the insurance company, isn\u2019t interested in whether I did right or wrong. He\u2019s afraid that it\u2019s going to extend beyond my coverage. And he\u2019ll say to me, ‘Oh, doctor we want to preserve your assets and therefore we\u2019re going to make you settle.\u2019 <\/p>\n

I said, ‘Settle what? I did nothing wrong.\u2019 <\/p>\n

‘Well,\u2019 he says, ‘if you bring it before a jury, especially in New York or Brooklyn, forget it. You\u2019re doomed.\u2019 <\/p>\n

So I only even have half a chance to save myself. Even if I\u2019ve done right, they want to shake the money out of it. Now if they move it to the age of 50… Mind you these are laymen, Rush. These are laymen making these decisions.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I know. I know. This panel is a panel of accountant types.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Worse!<\/p>\n

RUSH: The experts who are going to make all these decisions. Let\u2019s not forget what you said at the beginning. It\u2019s amazing how the liberals and the Democrats end up harming the very people they claim to be looking out for, protecting and standing up for.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly. I mean this goes through every aspect, through affirmative action, through everything, through all the aspects of life. They are hurting people because they think in their ivory tower that they know better, that they are smarter. For example, let\u2019s say you came to my office and had chest pain. I said, ‘Oh, were you playing golf?\u2019 And you say, ‘Yeah.\u2019 I say, ‘Well, maybe you cracked a rib.\u2019 If I\u2019m using insurance from your company, the insurance company will not allow me to do a chest X-ray to see whether or not you\u2019ve got a pneumothorax or a rib series.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because it was not approved by some clerk in an office someplace.<\/p>\n

RUSH: This reminds me of the letter, the story from my hometown paper in Cape Girardeau, the Southeast Missourian. The at-risk seasoned citizen went to his doctor for a swine flu vaccine. By the way, whatever happened to all those stories about the death and destruction and the sick? We don\u2019t see it. There must not be a panic or emergency out there anymore. Anyway this guy went in and he wanted a swine flu vaccine. The doctor had three of them. The doctor said, ‘You gotta call the county board of health. You gotta call a bureaucrat.\u2019 So the guy called a bureaucrat and the bureaucrat said, ‘Sorry, the swine flu vaccine is reserved for women and young children who are at risk.\u2019 ‘Oh, when do I get mine?\u2019 ‘We don\u2019t know, maybe December at the earliest.\u2019 So your insurance company, whoever it is, it\u2019s everybody other than doctors making decisions, and it\u2019s going to get even worse if this debacle ever actually gets signed into law.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Ginger in Hot Springs, Arkansas. Hi, Ginger, welcome to the program.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush Dittohead since the 1980s. Question. Ms. Pelosi came out after the health care bill was signed in the House, and she stated that women would no longer be ‘discriminated against\u2019 when it comes to health care just because they\u2019re women. Now, isn\u2019t this mammogram change a discrimination against women?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, by all accounts — by any measure of the word ‘discrimination\u2019 — you would have to say, yes, it is. I have yet to have a mammogram, for example.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019ve been a high risk and been getting mine since I was 35.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I know a lot of guys who look like they need a mammogram. I\u2019m not going to name any names.<\/p>\n

CALLER: (laughing) Well, men get it, too.<\/p>\n

RUSH: (laughing) I know they do. Actually they do. But not only is it discrimination against women, it\u2019s the first sign of rationing health care.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: It\u2019s the first sign of doing everything related to cost. I mean, it\u2019s clear. We had this two weeks ago, folks. I tell you we talked about this two weeks ago when some cancer organization — it might have been the American Cancer Society — first issued a report saying this is coming down the pike, and they couldn\u2019t believe it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, they couldn\u2019t.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, no, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute! That wasn\u2019t the story. I may have to do a website search here to find this. I think the story was that whatever cancer group it was supported the decision. Wasn\u2019t that what it was? The cancer group supported the decision because they said mammograms early often find stuff that\u2019s not bad, that can cause more harm. You get treated for things that don\u2019t need to be treated, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, the cancer group was for it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Jillian, I can\u2019t remember her last name, she was a very popular actor in the eighties, came on Huckabee and just said, ‘This is foolish,\u2019 and she is very much involved with the American Cancer Society and —<\/p>\n

RUSH: I don\u2019t remember Jillian I-can\u2019t-remember-her-last-name, but if she said it on the Huckabee show, it was stated, obviously.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes. A long conversation about it. She\u2019s had a double mastectomy, and been a survivor for how many years is it now? And, you know, the American Cancer Society is not backing this. The oncologist that I took my husband to yesterday is not backing this.<\/p>\n

RUSH: This is the thing. I don\u2019t understand why anybody ever backed it, substantively. I understand why certain groups would back it if they think they\u2019re going to profit from it. But somebody who really, really is concerned about health care and health insurance and treatment, there\u2019s no way anybody would ever support the government getting any more involved in this than it is. In fact, they would support getting the government out of it. But that\u2019s just me. I\u2019m just a conservative, which means I\u2019m an extremist. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: We went back, it was October 21st on this program, and it was a New York Times story: ‘Cancer Society, in Shift, Has Concerns on Screenings — The American Cancer Society, which has long been a staunch defender of most cancer screening, is now saying that the benefits of detecting many cancers, especially breast and prostate, have been overstated.\u2019 What I said at the time, October 21st on this show was: ‘You\u2019ve gotta be kidding me! After years of being berated and shamed into getting mammograms, getting PSA tests that cost a lot of money, they now tell us it\u2019s overstated?\u2019 The American Cancer Society, says the New York Times, ‘is quietly working on a message, to put on its website early next year, to emphasize that screening for breast and prostate cancer and certain other cancers can come with a real risk of overtreating many small cancers while missing cancers that are deadly.\u2019 Quietly working on a message to put on its website early next year to emphasize that early screening can come with a real risk of overtreating many small cancers. <\/p>\n

Now, that\u2019s October 21st. I\u2019ll translate this for you. Back on October 21st the American Cancer Society was all for the notion you don\u2019t need to get all that many tests here. Prostate, mammograms, you don\u2019t need to get all that. Those early tests sometimes are just bad. Jump, fast forward to yesterday where this panel of government experts says we\u2019re going to raise the age for mammograms that we\u2019re going to pay for from age 40 to 50, and the American Cancer Society comes out and has a cow about it. Yet back on October 21st they were essentially for it. I mean, when you come out and issue and you\u2019re preparing your website to tell people, ‘Don\u2019t worry about early screening,\u2019 well, early screening is what? Age 40. Wouldn\u2019t you say age 40 is early screening? And the government experts say, ‘No, no, no! We\u2019re going to move it to 50.\u2019 Don\u2019t you think the American Cancer Society would be supportive of this because back in October the New York Times reported that they were all in favor of banning and getting rid of early testing. (interruption) Well, now, I\u2019m trying to figure that out myself. Why did they change their mind? <\/p>\n

What was behind this thing on the 21st of October in the New York Times story? I figured that was the American Cancer Society getting on board Obamacare. October 21st, the New York Times story, the whole point was to save money. We don\u2019t need all these early screenings and it\u2019s not going to find that much anyway! The cancers are not worth treating and we\u2019re gonna miss the big ones, which I still don\u2019t understand how you ‘miss the big ones\u2019 with early screening. Now in less than a month they\u2019ve done a 180. I remain open for somebody to explain this to me. (interruption) You know what? I am never ceased to be amazed at the impact Snerdley believes this radio show has. Snerdley was just shouting at me in the IFB, ‘Well, I\u2019ll explain it to you! The reason they did the switcheroo, the 180, is because you informed all these women back on October 21st that they were against early screening.\u2019 He says, ‘Do you remember all these angry women that called here? Don\u2019t think they didn\u2019t call the American Cancer Society.\u2019 <\/p>\n

So Snerdley believes that I am behind this 180-degree switcheroo, and if Snerdley\u2019s right — and I have to say he probably is — if Snerdley is right, it means I have saved millions of women\u2019s lives, and the left is not going to like that. (interruption) Well, Snerdley, we don\u2019t want to take it that far. Snerdley wants me to say that I have ‘saved many a breast.\u2019 I would simply say ‘saved many lives.\u2019 <\/p>\n

Kathy in Milwaukee, you\u2019re next on the Rush Limbaugh program. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush Limbaugh. This is an honor. I have so much to say to you and so little time. Thank you for keeping us well-informed, well-educated and being the voice of America.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I appreciate you saying that so much. Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Two quick things. The first reason why I was calling is they were saying they wanted to switch the age from 40 to 50 for screening.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Government-paid mammograms, yes.<\/p>\n

CALLER: The reason I think — this is an idea, anyway. They figure by the time you\u2019re 50 either it\u2019s too late or you are too old to get screened now, and they have saved lots of money by that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a second. This is a serious charge you are making because if I heard you right, Kathy, —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes?<\/p>\n

RUSH: — you are suggesting that at age 50 the government can then say, ‘You know what? The amount of money this is going to cost — if we find that you do have cancer of the breast, the amount of money it\u2019s going to cost — is simply not worth it. We\u2019re denying the mammogram.\u2019 <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Therefore, you are charging that the real objective here is they want women dead.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Possibly. The older women that maybe understand how things work in society and family and —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, we do know from the president\u2019s own mouth that he doesn\u2019t think a 95-year-old woman or 100-year-old woman should get a pacemaker.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I remember that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Remember that? And we do know that in the House versions of health care bills, that magically when you get into the 70 years of age the decision on major costly treatment probably would be not to do it. But this is quite a charge you\u2019re making that they would implement this philosophy: At age 50, deny a mammogram on the basis if you test positive for it, we don\u2019t have the money to treat you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Kathy, thank you for the phone call.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I appreciate it. This, folks, infuriates me and brings me close to profanity. I want to tell you why. We live in the United States of America. We just talked to a woman in Milwaukee — a standard, run-of-the-mill person. Not a nutcase. Not a conspiracy theorist. We have, in essence, an American citizen actually considering the possibility that her government doesn\u2019t care about saving the lives of women at age 50 and beyond. Now, whether she\u2019s right or wrong is not the point. The point is, I can understand having this fear if you live in China, or if you live in Venezuela, or if you live in ‘Cuber\u2019 or if you live in Russia, I can understand this. If you live in totalitarian regimes where they don\u2019t care about you, but for American citizens to be wandering around with that kind of thought, and it\u2019s a legitimate thought because we know that the government, Obama himself has said (paraphrased), ‘I don\u2019t think we\u2019re going to account for will to live or spirit. Our experts are going to have to use cost as a determining factor here.\u2019 Just like I don\u2019t believe we actually have a pay czar, and this guy\u2019s gearing up for a new round. This guy\u2019s gearing up for more cuts in salary. He\u2019s all excited about it! Kenny Feinberg is out there and he can\u2019t wait to get going on this. In the United States of America!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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