{"id":33176,"date":"2009-08-11T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T02:05:12","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T02:05:12","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T02:05:12","slug":"pathetic_obama_lies_at_new_hampshire_health_care_town_hall","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2009\/08\/11\/pathetic_obama_lies_at_new_hampshire_health_care_town_hall\/","title":{"rendered":"Pathetic Obama Lies at New Hampshire Health Care Town Hall"},"content":{"rendered":"
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RUSH: This is actually kind of interesting to me. Now, I haven\u2019t been able to follow the whole thing because I, of course, have been doing broadcast excellence while Obama\u2019s out there desperately trying to save his flawed plan at Portsmouth, New Hampshire, but I did have a chance to listen to what he\u2019s saying in his town hall now and there\u2019s nothing new in it from what I heard. It\u2019s the same old thing. ‘Well, you will not lose your coverage! If you like your plan, you will not lose it.\u2019 I\u2019m sorry, folks. You will lose it! Eventually you will lose it. And many of you almost instantly after this thing becomes law. The whole point of the ‘public option\u2019 is to entice private sector businesses and insurance companies to drop insurance coverage because how do you compete with an entity that never has to show a profit? <\/p>\n

And the federal government never has to show a profit. But this is devious because this man cannot dare tell you the truth. The truth is he wants a single-payer system. He doesn\u2019t want you with private insurance. We\u2019ve got him on tape saying it many times since 2003. He then said, ‘There won\u2019t be any long lines. You will not have to wait in any lines.\u2019 Now, where the hell did that come from? But there\u2019s nothing inspiring here. He\u2019s saying, ‘Well, it\u2019s very scary what people are saying about our plan here, but what\u2019s even more scary is not doing anything.\u2019 Nobody is talking about not doing anything. What people are talking about is saving one-sixth of the US private sector economy as a private sector economy. What people are talking about is saving their liberty. They\u2019re talking about saving their freedom. <\/p>\n

There are alternative health care plans out there, many of them. The Republicans in both the House and the Senate have put them forth. They just don\u2019t have the power to get it passed. Nobody is paying any attention to them. So this is the typical straw dog argument. I\u2019ll tell you, the president… He\u2019s unhinged. He\u2019s unraveling here. He\u2019s responding to charges no one has made. They are on defense. The New York Times said it today in a story by Jim Rutenberg. They are defensive about this. They\u2019ve lost control of the debate, and you can tell it in the little amount of time I had to listen. But it\u2019s clear that the people who oppose the bill, who have read it, have hit some home runs here. Because I knew for a fact he\u2019d claim, ‘If you like your coverage, you\u2019re going to be able to keep it.\u2019 Page 16: You won\u2019t. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: This town hall meeting the president is conducting is unbelievable. I don\u2019t think he knows what he\u2019s talking about. He just said that his health care plan — which he has never shown us! We have never seen the Obama health proposal. His plan is going to, get this, be pretty much just like what Congress has. You\u2019re going to be able to go to an exchange where there are going to be all these plans and you\u2019ll be able to pick the one you want in addition to a public option. A government plan is going to be thrown in the mix, and we\u2019re doing that to keep the insurance companies honest. Now, my friends, of all the plans that have been proposed that we have seen, I am here to tell you that no such plan exists. <\/p>\n

He has described what members of Congress and the Senate, a lot of federal employees have. They do have a smorgasbord of plans and they get to pick whatever one they want but there\u2019s not one of them that\u2019s run by the government. They\u2019re all run by the private sector. They\u2019re paid for by you and me but they\u2019re not run by the government. And they\u2019re not going to be able to choose the public option, these members of Congress and certain federal officials. They\u2019re not going to choose it. Then he went to a question. A little girl, early teenage, stood up. Obama said, ‘When do you go back to school?\u2019 She said, ‘September 3rd.\u2019 You know what her question was? When I was walking in, I saw all of these signs opposing health care reform — mean signs, mean signs opposing health care reform. <\/p>\n

Why are people against something that will make their lives better, or some such thing as that. And then how can we know what\u2019s true? Now, I\u2019m sorry, folks, 13-year-old, 14, 15, I don\u2019t care. Nothing about that computes. I\u2019ve seen these mean signs? Why are people so opposed to something to help them. How do we know what is true? I almost wish I was carrying this live. I almost wish I had JIPed this. This is very unimpressive. Same plan as Congress? What the hell is he talking about? Nobody\u2019s proposing… For crying out loud, when Congress — there is no section 1233 for Congress where they have to get counseled near the end of life. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: I don\u2019t know. This is hard. The president has just said, ‘I\u2019m not promoting a single-payer plan.\u2019 (sigh) I\u2019m very uncomfortable. Let me look at my stack here to see what we have. Cookie, if we don\u2019t have it in the roster, get me 03 and 07. If we do, tell me where they are real quick because I\u2019ve got a lot of paper here in the sound bite roster. We\u2019ll get it. ‘Do you still believe in universal coverage?\u2019 was the question from audience member. He said, ‘I don\u2019t believe… I\u2019m not promoting a single-payer plan.\u2019 (sigh) But he is. He just is. This makes me really uncomfortable. I don\u2019t like thinking these kinds of things about the president of the United States, and I certainly don\u2019t like saying them. (sigh) I just don\u2019t like saying it. It\u2019s not helpful, but it\u2019s true. Matt in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, hi, welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thank you so much for taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You bet.<\/p>\n

CALLER: If I could take a few seconds to thank you personally for something you\u2019re probably not aware of? <\/p>\n

RUSH: Sure.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I used to be a sales guy and I\u2019ve always wanted to follow my dream to do something else, and it turns out I used to schedule my sales calls around your show and your commercial breaks and things like that and then after hearing you say, ‘More fun than a human being should be allowed to have so many times,\u2019 talking about the struggles, I finally abandoned it. I\u2019m pursuing my dream. I\u2019m pretty successful at it and I gotta give you credit for it.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No. Well, give yourself credit. Too many people are afraid to give themselves credit for what they\u2019re good at because they think it\u2019s bragging or it\u2019s somehow not polite. But don\u2019t be afraid to give yourself credit for what you\u2019ve done.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, it\u2019s not… It\u2019s true, and I realize all the time that there are so many people probably better than I am at what I do, but they just never got to the starting line. I\u2019ve gotten there — and just because I showed up, I\u2019m already ahead of most of them.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, they never got to the starting line or they never tried to get to the starting line. You did. You did. There\u2019s no reason to have any guilt about this.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, it\u2019s not guilt. It\u2019s just I did it and now no one can take it away from me and I love it and you\u2019re part of the reason.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much. I appreciate it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You got it, buddy. Okay, here\u2019s my point. Do you remember when Obama spoke to the AMA meeting and one of the first things he did out of the box as far as controlling costs and things is he shot down tort reform? He said, ‘It\u2019s too important! You gotta keep people accountable,\u2019 blah, blah, blah. What\u2019s interesting — and we all know why he did that. It\u2019s because the support from the trial lawyers and things like that. What happens when he eventually gets what he wants and Barney Frank and those folks and they get to single payer. The trial lawyer can\u2019t sue anybody. They can\u2019t sue the government. Do the trial lawyers understand that by supporting this guy they are ultimately throwing away their meal ticket?<\/p>\n

RUSH: See, I used to think that, too. I used to think, ‘Wait a minute! Once the private insurers are out of there, they\u2019re not going to be able to sue anybody.\u2019 You\u2019re not thinking here. This whole thing is a sop to the trial lawyers and the public sector union bosses.<\/p>\n

CALLER: True. True. But once it gets to the point of costs, when costs become crazy high and they see these continual lawsuits under the John Edwardses of the world continue to get three hundred-million-dollar settlements, they\u2019re going to say, ‘Wait a minute. We just got to X that off the balance sheet. You can\u2019t do this anymore. That\u2019s it.\u2019 Do you agree?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Who\u2019s going to be saying you can\u2019t sue anymore?<\/p>\n

CALLER: The government-run option people. The people who are in charge of the government-run health care plan are going to say, ‘We can\u2019t afford this potential liability.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, they\u2019re not going to be suing the government. You can\u2019t sue the government.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right. That\u2019s my point. The trial lawyers will have no more medical malpractice.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Nah, they\u2019ll sue the doctors.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But aren\u2019t the doctors on the government payroll now?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Not technically.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay. Well, do you think it will always be that way? Because then once they\u2019re not on the government payroll, then they\u2019ll have options, and the last thing the government wants is them to have options.<\/p>\n

RUSH: One thing I know is if the Democrat Party ever takes away the option of the plaintiff\u2019s bar to behave as they have been, that\u2019s the end of all money and support for the Democrat Party from the plaintiff\u2019s bar. And since money is the mother\u2019s milk of politics, that ain\u2019t going to happen. That\u2019s no more likely than Obama telling this guy Stern that runs the SEIU, ‘Screw you, buddy! I don\u2019t need you anymore.\u2019 It ain\u2019t going to happen.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I just thought it was possibly the Law of Unintended Consequences with the trial lawyers being shortsighted to support this.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, no, no.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I understand your thinking about unintended consequences, but the unintended consequences of this are the bankruptcy of the country, the end of the goose that lays the golden egg. There isn\u2019t going to be the money for any of this. The unintended consequences are going to be the absolute revolts when families are told, ‘Sorry, your kid or your grandmother, we don\u2019t have the money. Here\u2019s the pain pill.\u2019<\/p>\n

CALLER: Do you think this could be undone?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, there\u2019s gotta be something else to replace it. Once you take something out of the private sector, it doesn\u2019t exist there anymore. So you just can\u2019t say, ‘Okay, government-run health care is over.\u2019 What do people do then? I mean, there\u2019s gotta be a doctor\u2019s office or something. It would be tough. This is crucial. This is very important. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: The president of the United States is stumbling and foundering badly. He\u2019s now explaining he\u2019s going to pay for all of this by limiting the deductions that people like him, who make more than $250,000 a year, are able to take. This is right out of the campaign. This isn\u2019t even elegant. This is desperation we\u2019re seeing.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: I am-flat-out stunned at what I have been able to listen to of the Obama town hall meeting in New Hampshire. I have… (drumming fingers) I\u2019m literally stunned at the pathetic nature of this. It is responsive. Obama is responsive to nothing in the current debate about this. He reminds me of the way he was in the campaign when Hillary got close. Remember during Operation Chaos toward the end of the Democrat primaries when Hillary was getting close? This is not presidential today. This is a campaign appearance that has no relationship to any reality on the ground now vis-a-vis where our health care debate is. ‘Well, I think we can pay for health care with the Bush tax cuts. Get rid of Bush tax cuts and pay the health care that way! I think we can pay for health care by, uh, we, uh, umm, umm just eliminate tax deductions for people like me who make over $230,000 and, uh, uh, there are a lot of cost savings of Medicare.\u2019<\/p>\n

We\u2019re not going to cut Medicare, I thought. None of this relates. I just watched a woman ask a question that took five minutes! It seemed like it. It was three minutes to ask the question. I\u2019ll tell you what\u2019s missing, if you see any sound bites of this (or if you happen to be watching it now and listening to me do the play-by-play), what you\u2019re watching here as a salesman sell a product that doesn\u2019t exist! We need to see the page numbers on the bill that supports every claim that he is making today. What he doesn\u2019t understand is, more and more people don\u2019t trust him or the Democrats to do this, and he\u2019s not responding to that. He\u2019s just citing the same old campaign rhetoric. We need to see the numbers of the pages, Mr. President!<\/p>\n

When you say X, Y, and Z is going to happen, you need to show us. Show us the plan. Where does it say that? He\u2019s out there selling Barack Obama, not health care. He\u2019s out there saying: Trust me. But after the stimulus bill, see, there\u2019s a new reality. ‘Trust me\u2019 doesn\u2019t work anymore. Almost three million people have lost their jobs since he took action to create jobs. Just in the past six months he\u2019s demonized doctors. He can\u2019t say ‘trust me\u2019 now. He\u2019s demonizing insurance industry. He can\u2019t say ‘trust me.\u2019 He\u2019s destroyed the federal budget, created this massive deficit. He can\u2019t say ‘trust me.\u2019 He can\u2019t get away with ‘trust me,\u2019 and that\u2019s what he\u2019s doing. It\u2019s so out of touch, it\u2019s unbelievable. He\u2019s failed to deliver on jobs. He can\u2019t say ‘trust me.\u2019 <\/p>\n

And when he says in the past he wants a single-payer system and today he says, ‘I don\u2019t want a single-payer system.\u2019 He can\u2019t then say ‘trust me.\u2019 This is like somebody selling you a car they don\u2019t have, selling you a car you can\u2019t test-drive, selling you a car you can\u2019t even see. It\u2019s like buying a company with no contract. You\u2019re just relying on the seller\u2019s promises, and the seller\u2019s promises address none of the concerns that have been raised by people who have seen the company. So here, let me illustrate. This is Obama this afternoon, Portsmouth, New Hampshire, and an audience member. ‘Mr. President, you\u2019ve been quoted over the years when you were a senator that you were essentially a supporter of a universal plan. I\u2019m beginning to see that you\u2019ve changed that.\u2019 Now, this… (laughing) None of this is real. None of these questions are real. ‘I\u2019m beginning to see you\u2019re changing on that. Do you honestly believe that? Do you still support a universal plan, or are you open to the private industry still being maintained?\u2019<\/p>\n

OBAMA TODAY: I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter because frankly we historically have had a employer-based system in this country, that private insurers.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Stop the tape! ‘I have not said I was a single-payer supporter…\u2019 Here, 2007, a little over two years ago, March 2007, Service Employees International Union Health Care Forum.<\/p>\n

OBAMA 2007: My commitment is to make sure that we\u2019ve got universal health care for all Americans by the end of my first term as president. I would hope that we can set up a system that allows those who can go through their employer to access a federal system or a state pool of some sort, but I don\u2019t think we\u2019re going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately. There\u2019s going to be potentially some transition process. I can envision a decade out or 15 years out or 20 years out.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. Now, listen to again the beginning of Obama today.<\/line> <\/line>OBAMA TODAY: I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter because frankly we historically have had a employer-based system in this country with private insurers.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: Stop the tape. ‘I have not said I was a single-payer supporter.\u2019 Here\u2019s 2003, AFL-CIO conference campaigning for the US Senate.<\/p>\n

OBAMA 2003: I happen to be a proponent of single-payer, universal health care plan. <\/p>\n

AUDIENCE: (applause) <\/p>\n

OBAMA 2003: I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, is spending 14% — 14% of its gross national product on health care — cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that\u2019s what Jim\u2019s talking about when he says, ‘Everybody in, nobody out,\u2019 a single payer health care plan, universal health care plan. That\u2019s what I\u2019d like to see but, as all of you know —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Stop the tape. There it is: ‘I happen to be a proponent of single-payer, universal health care plan. … [A] single-payer, universal health care plan. That\u2019s what I\u2019d like to see.\u2019 Today, President Obama…<\/p>\n

OBAMA TODAY: I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter because frankly we historically have had a employer-based system in this country with private insurers.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Stop the tape. Mr. President, you can\u2019t do this and have people trust you. The power of your cult-like appeal is gone. You can\u2019t destroy jobs after telling people you\u2019re going to create and restore jobs and then say, ‘Trust me.\u2019 You can\u2019t say you\u2019ve never said you were a single-payer supporter when we have sound bites of you advocating it, promising it to your most fervent supporters and then say ‘trust me.\u2019 You have lost the trust. (interruption) Oh, I\u2019m stoking the flames? I\u2019m stoking the flames? (interruption) There I go again stoking the flames? There I go again? I\u2019m stoking the flames here? (interruption) What, I\u2019m supposed to just shut up and forget what I heard in 2007 and 2003? Now, this next bite, I have a comment but after you hear it.<\/p>\n

OBAMA TODAY: I do hope that we will talk with each other and not over each other. Where we disagree, let\u2019s disagree over things that are real, not these wild misrepresentations that bear no resemblance to anything that\u2019s actually been proposed. <\/p>\n

FOLLOWERS: (applause) <\/p>\n

OBAMA TODAY: ‘Cause the way politics works sometimes is that people who want to keep things the way they are will try to scare the heck outta folks and they\u2019ll create bogeyman out there that just aren\u2019t real.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, one again, these are not ‘wild misrepresentations.\u2019 People are showing up, Mr. President, with the House bill, and they\u2019re reading from it and they\u2019re asking their representatives and senators about it. ‘[T]alk with each other but not over each other. Where we disagree, let\u2019s disagree over what\u2019s real…\u2019 I\u2019ve never seen this man be so disconnected from reality. He has failed and his people have failed to understand. This is not the Barack Obama of the campaign that\u2019s going to lower the sea levels and raise the mountains and freeze the snow and the glaciers and whatever else. It\u2019s a whole different reality not even being acknowledged. Now, here again, this next bite. This is Obama on his plan. But he doesn\u2019t have a plan. He needs to be out there with every claim he\u2019s making saying, ‘Here it is, Page XXX, whatever it is of my plan. This is what it says.\u2019 He can\u2019t do that because he can\u2019t have a plan yet. He says…<\/p>\n

OBAMA TODAY: All we want to do is set up a set of options so that if you don\u2019t have health insurance or you\u2019re underinsured, you can have the same deal that members of Congress have, which is they can look at a menu of options — we\u2019re calling it an exchange, but it\u2019s basically just a menu of different health care plans — and you\u2019ll be able to select the one that suits your family best. And I do think that having a public option as part of that will keep the insurance companies honest because if they\u2019ve got a public plan out there that they\u2019ve gotta compete against, as long as it\u2019s not being subsidized by taxpayers —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Golly!<\/p>\n

OBAMA TODAY: — then that will give you some acceptance of what sort of a good bargain for basic health care would be.<\/p>\n

RUSH: This is unreal! This is, frankly, absurd. It\u2019s beyond pathetic. ‘All we want to do is set up a set of options so that if you don\u2019t have health insurance you can have the same deal members of Congress get\u2019? That\u2019s what\u2019s new. That is the new. He\u2019s saying that we\u2019re all going to get the same options Congress gets — and, folks, there is no plan anywhere that says that any time, ever. But to keep the insurance companies honest we\u2019re going to put a public option in there? I just… (stammering) I\u2019m not often speechless. This is amateurish. This is… Well, of course I\u2019ll give the public option ‘not subsidized by taxpayers,\u2019 not subsidized by taxpayers. Of course none of… This is incoherent. ‘I want to set up a series of options so that if you don\u2019t have health insurance you can have the same deal that members of Congress have\u2019? Do I dare go any further with this? Yeah. A child stands up and asks a question. Ah, this is the little 13-year-old. Never mind. Folks, we already talked about it. I can\u2019t… I don\u2019t know. This is… I feel like I\u2019m dealing with somebody running for high school class president here, except he\u2019s not. This is dangerous.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: I tell you, it\u2019s time to bring back the teleprompter. It\u2019s time to bring back the teleprompter or the Son of Teleprompter since the First Teleprompter crashed and died, maybe committed suicide. But even on PMSNBC the first two guests just trashed this. ‘Ah, the questions weren\u2019t hard enough. They were too easy! He was rambling. It went on and on and on.\u2019 Here, I\u2019m going to play these two sound bites. I decided that I would play \u2019em during the break. It\u2019s the 13-year-old little girl. I\u2019m guessing her age. She\u2019s a little girl. She stands up and says this.<\/p>\n

LITTLE GIRL: As I was walking in, I saw a lot of signs outside saying mean things about reforming health care. How do kids know what is true, and why do people want a new system that helps more of us?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, here\u2019s Obama\u2019s answer to that.<\/p>\n

OBAMA: Well, uh, uh… The, uhhhh… I\u2019ve seen some of those signs. Let me just be specific about some things that I\u2019ve been hearing lately that, eh, we just need to dispose of here. The rumor that\u2019s been circulating a lot lately is this idea that somehow the House of Representatives voted for death panels that will, uhhh, basically pull the plug on grandma because we decided that we don\u2019t… It\u2019s too expensive to let her live anymore. I guess this arose out of a provision in one of the House bills that allowed Medicare to reimburse people for consultations about end-of-life care, setting up living wills, the availability of hospice, et cetera. Somehow it\u2019s gotten spun into this idea of death panels. I am not in favor of that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Mike, find me the ABC quote about the pain pill, grandmother, 105 and so forth. I\u2019ve got these sheets of paper all over and I can\u2019t tell which is which here. But let me tell you something, folks. This little girl stands up and says, ‘As I was walking in, I saw a lot of signs outside saying mean things about reforming health care. How do kids know what is true, and why do people not want a new system that helps more of us?\u2019 and he starts telling people that he\u2019s not going to kill grandma. (Good. Stand by. It\u2019s coming up soon.) Now, if Obama takes that question and says that he is not going to kill grandma, then he\u2019s in trouble and he knows he\u2019s in trouble. If he has to say, ‘We don\u2019t have to worry about death panels…\u2019 He was also asked about the snitch website and he admitted there\u2019s a snitch website and he said we don\u2019t have to worry about it!<\/p>\n

It\u2019s not that you\u2019ve been misled about what the site is. ‘We have a snitch website…\u2019 (laughing) Well, he didn\u2019t say ‘snitch.\u2019 We have our snitch website but we don\u2019t even need to worry about it! Ah, this talk about death panels. ‘I\u2019m not in favor of that\u2019? What a concrete reassuring denial: I\u2019m not in favor of death panels. Well, Mr. President, there are enough people that are, if this answer doesn\u2019t quite persuade them because you can\u2019t get by on ‘trust me\u2019 anymore. Let\u2019s go back, June 24th, ABC. You just heard his answer here. ‘I\u2019ve heard some of these death panels, pull the plug on grandma. We decide it\u2019s too expensive let her live anymore. I guess this arose out of a provision in one of the House bills that allowed Medicare to reimburse people in consultation, end-of-life care.\u2019 He\u2019s finally gotten up to speed on this. He doesn\u2019t have a bill. He\u2019s reading the House bill. But woman stands up: ‘Are you going to take into account my mother\u2019s will to live?\u2019<\/p>\n

OBAMA: I don\u2019t think that we can make judgments based on people\u2019s spirit. Uh, that would be, uh, a pretty subjective decision to be making. I think we have to have rules that, uh, say that we are gonna provide good quality care for all people. End-of-life care is one of the most difficult sets of decisions that we\u2019re going to have to make. But understand that those decisions are already being made in one way or another. If they\u2019re not being made under Medicare and Medicaid, they\u2019re being made by private insurers. At least we can let doctors know — and your mom know — that you know what? Maybe this isn\u2019t going to help. Maybe you\u2019re better off, uh, not having the surgery but taking, uhhh, the painkiller.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But we\u2019re not going to have death panels. He\u2019s not in favor of death panels. Will somebody tell me…? Mr. President, you\u2019re using the word ‘we\u2019 here. ‘We\u2019 give her the pain pill. ‘We\u2019 make end-of-life decisions and ‘we\u2019 give them the pain pill. Maybe ‘we\u2019 don\u2019t mess with the surgery. But he\u2019s not in favor. Look, folks, I\u2019m telling you. I cannot emphasize it enough. This little girl didn\u2019t even ask about death panels! This little girl didn\u2019t ask about anything. She asked about ‘mean signs\u2019 and she didn\u2019t define what they were. When you, as president of the United States, have to tell a country that you are not in favor of death panels and that you are not going to pull the switch on grandma, you have lost control of this. ‘No, don\u2019t worry about that! Those are all lies. I\u2019m not going to pull the plug on grandma!\u2019<\/p>\n

To me, this is profound. This is United States of America. The president of the United States had to tell the people in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, that he\u2019s not going to pull the plug on grandma! That that\u2019s even something this government would contemplate and that people have a fear about that they would have to ask about… This little girl didn\u2019t even ask about it. Now, this was at the end of his opening comments. Cut 40. This happened about half an hour ago. This is 1:50 p.m. Eastern time. It was about ten minutes before this town hall meeting ended. Listen. I want to set this up. This is only six seconds so you have to listen fast. This is a man who is on a tear to convince every one of us that only the federal government can do health care fair and right and good and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Only the federal government! The only entity that can handle the depression, the recession — the only entity that can get jobs booming again — is the federal government. And he actually said this 35 minutes ago.<\/p>\n

OBAMA: If you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It\u2019s the Post Office that\u2019s always havin\u2019 problems.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, I\u2019m going to have to get the transcript. I just told Cookie, ‘Find that phrase.\u2019 She did a keyword search and found it. I don\u2019t know what the context of this is. ‘If you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It\u2019s the Post Office that\u2019s always having problems.\u2019 Now, that line alone by itself and out of context does not jibe with trying to say the government\u2019s the only entity that can do anything, when you stop and think if. So I will find the context of this in hopes of having it make sense. Now, the statement alone does make sense, just by itself: ‘UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It\u2019s the Post Office that\u2019s always having problems.\u2019 That\u2019s true. There\u2019s no question he told the truth about that, but it doesn\u2019t advance his cause of having the government run health care. Maybe he was saying insurance companies are not doing well, HMOs are not doing well. I don\u2019t want to guess. I don\u2019t want to surmise.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: All right, I have the context now on Obama and this UPS-FedEx comment. He was saying that the public option — the government option in health care, — will not put private insurance out of business, that they can compete with the government. And that\u2019s when he said…<\/p>\n

OBAMA: If you think about it, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. It\u2019s the Post Office that\u2019s always havin\u2019 problems.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, wait a second. This is supposed to dazzle us with his brilliance and intelligence. The Post Office is a losing proposition. It is running a deficit the other day there was a story they might have to close 100 Post Offices. Maybe it was more than that, but at least a hundred Post Offices around the country. ‘UPS and FedEx are doing just fine.\u2019 Yeah, but I haven\u2019t heard you talking about squeezing UPS or FedEx profits. I haven\u2019t heard you start demonizing UPS or FedEx. Let\u2019s make this analogy worthwhile. If you wanted government-run overnight delivery, you\u2019d be out there demonizing UPS and FedEx. He\u2019s not going to do it because UPS is a big union organization and so forth. So what do we have to look forward to here, with this analogy? ‘Hey, the private sector can compete. Why, UPS, FedEx, think about it! They\u2019re doing just fine. The Post Office sucks.\u2019 So the government-run health care option is going to suck, and private options are going to make it a money loser? All the while it\u2019s going to be deficit neutral! Specter said that today, going to be deficit neutral. It\u2019s not going to cost us any new money. They\u2019re at the point now where they\u2019re literally grabbing globs of excrement, throwing it up against the wall, and hoping some of it sticks. That\u2019s what this has become. That\u2019s how much they have lost control of this. All right, who\u2019s been waiting the longest? It\u2019s White Lake, Michigan. Steve, hello. Welcome to the EIB Network, sir. Great to have you here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Mega dittos, Rush. I really appreciate you taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, I didn\u2019t tell the screener this, but my daughter is 13 years old, and that is the base of my call because, you know, our kids are so smart. They see clearly what needs to be said, and the other night my 13-year-old had asked me. She said, ‘Will, I get the same lifesaving treatment as mom did when she was just 28 years old?\u2019 You know, just floored me, I just had to take a pause and a deep breath.<\/p>\n

RUSH: All right, where did your 13-year-old daughter even hear enough information to ask you this question? Where did she hear this?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, watching Fox News. She gets up every morning. She\u2019s used to doing that before she goes to school, so she still does it now, and she just watches the media. What\u2019s concerning to her is what they\u2019re talking about, you know, the Obama health care plan — which really I think, you know, it should be known as the, ‘No Child Left Behind Us.\u2019 There\u2019s always a double meaning behind everything Obama says. At first you think, ‘Well, yeah, No Child Left Behind Us. That\u2019s great,\u2019 but then sit back and look and think, ‘Well, gosh, there is going to be a lot of kids who have genetic issues that they don\u2019t fit specifics. You have to be specific in a government program to say it is worthy for us to do treatment,\u2019 and my life would have been one of those statistics. At 28, she would have passed away if she did not get the treatment. It was a doctor\u2019s decision based on the information he saw to say, ‘Let\u2019s get a colonoscopy done.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: Who was paying for this? You have an insurance policy?<\/p>\n

CALLER: A PPOM.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So your fear is that when the government is in charge of this, that procedure would not have been approved?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, absolutely.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Why? I want to hear from you. Why ‘absolutely\u2019 it wouldn\u2019t have been approved?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because her brother who was under 40 years old at the time, worked at the Pentagon, under a government health plan, and we had to submit all the documentation of my wife\u2019s procedure showing that they were precancerous polyps when you\u2019re not supposed to have a colonoscopy until you\u2019re age 50 by all recommendations and standards right now. Well, you know, the statistics were not working in his favor. He\u2019s under 40 years old. So, with the government plan he was under, all the doctors were saying, ‘That\u2019s just impossible. We don\u2019t believe you. That\u2019s ridiculous. She couldn\u2019t have precancerous polyps.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay so you have a legitimate reason for believing that.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Absolutely. This was a real story. This is not one of these false misrepresentations out there. That\u2019s why we feel so… I get so miffed and feel just so disrespected.<\/p>\n

RUSH: What was that, you get so ‘miffed\u2019?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Miffed! <\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. I am miffed at the actual accusations out there. The left is saying that we are using misrepresentation. We know.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Let me tell you what\u2019s happened here. There\u2019s a reason for this, and it\u2019s not all that complicated. I refer to this frequently. Back when I started this program in 1988, these people — the Democrat Party, for the most part, and most of the mainstream media — had a monopoly on not only what was reported, but what was not reported. They controlled the news cycle. The New York Times determined most of the stories that would be covered in the evening news on ABC, CBS, and NBC, that night. The New York Times was the bible, and they had this monopoly where they controlled it. They\u2019ve lost that monopoly now. In 1988, CNN was the only cable network out there, along with three networks, the newspapers and magazines. And now look. They have lost control of it. And because they had so many years of control without being challenged on what they believed, they have never had to toughen up. <\/p>\n

They have never had to actually figure out a way to persuade people because they never had to. They controlled it. But now they\u2019re not trusted. They\u2019re not universally trusted. There will never, ever be another Walter Cronkite. There just won\u2019t be. There are too many places you can go now and see that\u2019s what\u2019s happening to these guys in the State-Run Media. They\u2019re floundering away in there, too, because they\u2019re still doing it the same old way. They\u2019re just saying, ‘You got a Democrat in the White House? Okay, we repeat. We don\u2019t report.\u2019 But they\u2019re not succeeding in shaping public opinion as they used to be able to, and that\u2019s just got \u2019em bugged to no end. So Obama… Obama wouldn\u2019t know tough press coverage. I don\u2019t know if Obama could handle one week of the kind of press coverage I get, for example. He\u2019s never had that. <\/p>\n

And I think his discombobulation today and his whole administration… This was childlike amateur today, this health care town hall. It was responsive to nothing current in the debate. It was as though there\u2019s not six months of an Obama administration with real things that have happened. It was as though we\u2019re still in the promise stage and we believe every promise and we believe because of the power of that personality that whatever is promised is going to happen. But there\u2019s six, seven months of reality now. We know it ain\u2019t true. There is reason to doubt. And today, he\u2019s out there assuring us that he\u2019s not going to pull the plug on grandma. One more. What did I do with it? I got things pouring in here so fast. Let\u2019s see. I\u2019m looking for cut 44, and I know I got cut 44. Ah, the snitch site. I wanted you to hear this. This is a question. ‘I\u2019m a skeptic. Thank you Mr. President, for coming. I\u2019m one of the people that turned myself in on the White House web page the other day for being a skeptic of this bill.\u2019<\/p>\n

OBAMA: This is another example of how, uhhh, the — the media ends up just completely distorting what\u2019s taken place. What we\u2019ve said is that if somebody has… If you get an e-mail from somebody that says, for example, ‘Obamacare is creating a death panel,\u2019 forward us the e-mail and we will answer the question that\u2019s raised in the e-mail. Suddenly, on some of these news outlets, this is being portrayed as, ‘Obama is collecting an enemies list!\u2019<\/p>\n

FOLLOWERS: (laughter) <\/p>\n

OBAMA: Now, come on, guys. I… You know, here I am trying to be responsive to questions that are being raised out there!<\/p>\n

RUSH: There\u2019s a way to do it. At a town hall like this you address those questions and you show us page by page where the people making these claims are wrong. But if you send a note to the White House, to the government, the government website, that has to be archived. They have to know who you are. So… Well, he admits the snitch website exists; it\u2019s just not a snitch website. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, about this snitch website, Obama says here: ‘If you get an e-mail from somebody that says, for example, ‘Obamacare is creating a death panel,\u2019 forward us the e-mail and we will answer the question that\u2019s raised in the e-mail.\u2019 Why forward the e-mail? So if you get an e-mail from me that says ‘Obama wants to create death panels,\u2019 you are being instructed to forward my e-mail to the snitch website. You could just as easily say, ‘I received an e-mail that said that there were going to be death panels.\u2019 They want the e-mail! They want the forwarded e-mail. By the way, the Post Office is now mulling closing 700 offices, Post Office stores around the country that might close. Now it\u2019s 700. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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