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RUSH: Let\u2019s go to one of the most interesting exchanges in the infomercial last night. And ABC\u2019s Jake Tapper, in describing this, says: ‘President Obama struggled Wednesday to explain whether his health care reform proposals would force normal Americans to make sacrifices that wealthier, more powerful people — like the president himself — wouldn\u2019t face. The probing questions came from two skeptical neurologists\u2019 during the ABC News infomercial on Obama healthcare reform. And the first question that we\u2019re referring to here is Dr. Orrin Devinsky. He\u2019s a New York neurosurgeon. He asked this question of President Obama: ‘If your wife or your daughter became seriously ill and things were not going well and the plan physicians told you they were doing everything that could be done and you sought out opinions from some medical leaders in major centers and they said, ‘There\u2019s another option that you should pursue,\u2019 but it wasn\u2019t covered in your plan, would you potentially sacrifice the health of your family for the greater good of insuring millions, or would you do everything possible as a father and husband to get the best healthcare and outcome for your family?\u2019<\/p>\n

Let me translate the question. A neurosurgeon asked Obama: ‘Okay, you\u2019ve got the healthcare plan that you\u2019re going to prescribe for everybody else. Your wife or your daughter comes down with a major illness. Your plan goes through the diagnosis. And then you find out that there\u2019s some other doctor out there somewhere with another procedure and another form of treatment, another opinion, but your plan doesn\u2019t cover it. Are you going to stick with the plan you forced on everybody else, or are you going to use your wealth and go outside the plan to get the treatment for your wife and daughter that other people are not going to be able to do because they don\u2019t have the money?” That\u2019s the question. He did not answer it. Obama: ‘You\u2019re absolutely right. That if it\u2019s my family member, uh, if it\u2019s my wife, if it\u2019s my children, if it\u2019s my grandmother, I always want them to get the very best care. But here\u2019s the problem that we have in our current healthcare system, is that there is a whole bunch of care that\u2019s being provided that every study, every bit of evidence that we have indicates may not be making us healthier.\u2019 <\/p>\n

All he did there was admit: ‘Yeah, I want the best healthcare possible.\u2019 Well, so the hell does everybody else! That wasn\u2019t the question. The question was: ‘Are you going to go outside the plan that you have prescribed for everybody?\u2019 See, the dirty little secret is he\u2019s going to be exempt from the plan, as are all members of Congress. The question was a good one: ‘Are you going to go outside the plan if you find a better doctor, better treatment that your plan doesn\u2019t cover?\u2019 ‘You\u2019re right. I\u2019d go get the best care I could. I want the best care.\u2019 Then comes this irrelevant, non sequitur answer: That we have a bunch of care that\u2019s being provided that may not be making us healthier. Folks, I\u2019m telling you, the answer to this question you need to focus on: Obama is looking to cut healthcare. He\u2019s looking to cut it because that\u2019s the only way he can keep costs where they are or reduce them, which is not going to happen anyway. We have the best healthcare system in this country and he\u2019s going to restrict access to it, as a means of saving money. <\/p>\n

That\u2019s the only way he can do it. So he wouldn\u2019t answer the good doctor\u2019s question. The answer to the question is, for President Obama: ‘Yeah, I\u2019m going to use the wealth I\u2019ve acquired and I\u2019m going to go get the best treatment I can.\u2019 But the vast majority of Americans will not be able to do that because they aren\u2019t going to be able to afford it. They\u2019re going to be stuck in a plan that doesn\u2019t everything they might need, and Obama\u2019s answer is: ‘Well, maybe you don\u2019t need the treatment. Maybe you don\u2019t. Maybe your quality of life is such you don\u2019t need it anyway. We\u2019ll save money.\u2019 Next question. Member of the audience. Jane Sturm: ‘My mother is now over 105. But at 100, the doctors said to her, ‘I can\u2019t do anything more unless you have a pacemaker.\u2019 I said, ‘Go for it.\u2019 She said, ‘Go for it.\u2019 But the specialist said, ‘No, she\u2019s too old.\u2019 But when the other specialist saw her and saw her joy of life, he said, ‘I\u2019m going for it.\u2019 That was over five years ago. My question to you is: Outside the medical criteria for prolonging life for somebody who is elderly, is there any consideration that can be given for a certain spirit, a certain joy of living, a quality of life, or is it just a medical cutoff at a certain age?\u2019<\/p>\n

Obama: ‘I don\u2019t think that we can make judgments based on people\u2019s ‘spirit.\u2019 Uh, that would be, uh, a pretty subjective decision to be making. I think we have to have rules that, uh, say that, uh, we are going to provide good quality care for all people. End-of-life care is one of the most difficult sets of decisions that we\u2019re going to have to make. But understand that those decisions are already being made in one way or another. If they\u2019re not being made under Medicare and Medicaid, they\u2019re being made by private insurers. At least we can let doctors know — and your mom know — that you know what, maybe this isn\u2019t going to help. Maybe you\u2019re better off, uhh, not having the surgery, but, uhh, taking the painkiller.\u2019 Do you realize how cold and heartless that answer is? This woman is asking about her mother. And everywhere she went, except one doctor, refused to put in the pacemaker. ‘Nah, she\u2019s too old; she\u2019s going to die anyway.\u2019<\/line> <\/line> So they found a specialist: ‘Maybe this woman really loves living. I\u2019ll put it in.\u2019 She\u2019s lived five years with the pacemaker, and still Obama: ‘Maybe you\u2019re better off to tell your mother to take a pill, take a painkiller.\u2019 See, we have to have rules. ‘We have to have rules. Your mother should have died five years ago, lady. She would have been better off taking that painkiller.\u2019 Who says we have to have his rules? The President of the United States is not a king. He\u2019s not an autocrat. He\u2019s not a ruler. He doesn\u2019t get to set the rules. Obama has taken it upon himself to do so. This woman found a way to get her mother a pacemaker. With Obamacare, you just heard the answer: It wouldn\u2019t have happened. I know how this stuff works. <\/line> <\/line> The hospitals are under pressure to free up beds. If they think somebody\u2019s terminal, get them out of there. I understand how all this works. But we\u2019re not talking about a terminal woman. We\u2019re talking about a woman who needed a pacemaker. ‘I don\u2019t think we can make judgments based on people\u2019s ‘spirit.\u2019 That would be a pretty subjective decision to be making.\u2019 Maybe not if the government\u2019s in charge. That\u2019s the whole point. What about if families… Do not families have the right to judge the spirit of their fathers and mothers and family members? Of course! Do we want to have a cold, cruel, unfeeling government saying, ‘Spirit doesn\u2019t matter to us\u2019? That\u2019s exactly right. Obama wants you… The best way to put it, and it\u2019s working, is he\u2019s trying to kill spirit. All this hope and change? He\u2019s trying to kill it. You know how many frustrated Americans there are out there at what\u2019s happening? <\/line> <\/line> This Sanford business. I\u2019ve got to tell you one of the first thoughts <\/a>that crossed my mind with Mark Sanford. This is the first thought: ‘What he did defies logic.\u2019 This is more than being 180 degrees out of phase because of lust or love. To split the scene for five days, and we know he\u2019s been separated — and he knows, by the way, that the newspaper in his state has the e-mails between him and his concubine there in Argentina. He knows this. He knows that somebody knows what\u2019s going on. He knows his wife knows. So he ups and leaves for five days. He doesn\u2019t leave anybody in charge of the state in case there\u2019s an emergency. This is almost like: ‘I don\u2019t give a damn. The country is going to hell in a handbasket and I just want out of here.\u2019 He had just tried to fight the stimulus money coming to South Carolina. He didn\u2019t want any part of it. He lost the battle. <\/line> <\/line> He said, ‘What the hell? The federal government\u2019s taking over. What the hell? I want to enjoy life.\u2019 One of the first things I thought, now today he\u2019s saying he doesn\u2019t want to give up office, he wants to stay in office. (sigh) But even Charles Krauthammer said last night: this is like self-inflicted political suicide. And it certainly appeared to be. The point is there are a lot of people whose spirit is just broken. They\u2019re fed up with it and saying, ‘To hell with it. I don\u2019t want to fight it anymore. I just want to get away from it,\u2019 and here\u2019s Obama admitting: ‘Well, we can\u2019t start making judgments based on people\u2019s spirit.\u2019 Imagine if we had had presidents in the past who said we couldn\u2019t make judgments on any number of political issues using ‘people\u2019s ‘spirit.” It\u2019s the American exceptionalism the spirit-can-doism that built the country. Spirit\u2019s everything. Energy, desire, get-up-and-go. Ambition! The woman\u2019s mother had ambition to live. She just needed a pacemaker. It didn\u2019t matter. She should take a painkiller! I\u2019m telling you, this is a coldhearted, ruthless guy. Not a cool, calm, and collected one. <\/line><\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: A couple more bites on this infomercial. It was an embarrassment to what used to be a great news organization, ABC. And, again, it came in last in its time slot last night; the 10 p.m. time slot, it was last. Obama is not the big ratings draw that everybody thinks. Obama fatigue is settling in. If they wanted people to watch, they should have had me on. Anyway, one of the techniques that the State-Run Media is using to support Obama is to try to demonize (even further) the insurance companies. <\/p>\n

And lo and behold, they had a guy from Aetna Insurance in the audience last night. Here\u2019s Diane Sawyer asking Obama for permission to question a CEO of Aetna. <\/p>\n

SAWYER: If I can reverse the order a little bit, Mr. President, I\u2019d like to ask a question of him and then let you comment on his answer.\u2019 <\/p>\n

OBAMA: Absolutely! <\/p>\n

SAWYER: Mr. Williams, Aetna, to take one, an insurance company. We hear all over the country people see their premiums going up 119% in the last several years. They see the profits of the insurance companies in the billions and billions of dollars. Even in a lean year, they see profits in the billions of dollars. Is the President right that you need to be kept honest?\u2019 <\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, now, this wasn\u2019t an infomercial, was it? This wasn\u2019t a stacked deck. ‘Is the President right, you people are a bunch of greedy SOBs? They can profit. Who the hell do you think you are making profits?\u2019 She wouldn\u2019t know the first thing about the risks anybody in the insurance business takes. She doesn\u2019t pay for her own health care, either. So let\u2019s bash the insurance companies. This is CEO Ronald Williams, Aetna president and CEO. This answer is one of the few things that made sense on ABC last night. <\/p>\n

WILLIAMS: It\u2019s difficult to compete against a player who is also the person who is refereeing the game. And so I think in the context of thinking about a government plan, what we say is: ‘Let\u2019s identify the problem we\u2019re trying to solve. Let\u2019s work collaboratively with physicians, hospitals, and other health care professionals, and make certain that we solve the problem as opposed to introduce a new competitor who has the rule-making ability the government would have.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: See, he is right on the money, and this is the thing that nobody\u2019s paying any attention to. Obama is saying, ‘Hey-ey-ey. You know, our public option is going to be subject to the same rules that the private sector is.\u2019 No, they\u2019re not, because Mr. Obama\u2019s plan doesn\u2019t have to make a profit, and Obama has already established himself as the referee, as Mr. Williams said. Obama says, ‘I\u2019m going to sit here and I\u2019ll allow you to keep your doctor. I\u2019ll allow you to do that.\u2019 Who the hell is he to ‘allow\u2019 us to do anything? He\u2019s not a king. He\u2019s not a dictator. He\u2019s the president. So after this answer, the brilliant Obama gives his rebuttal and calls this guy ‘Mr. Walters\u2019 instead of his name, ‘Mr. Williams.\u2019 <\/p>\n

OBAMA: First of all, I want to say that, uh, Mr. Walters (sic) has been very cooperative. We\u2019ve been having a series of conversations, and I appreciate the constructive, uhh, manner in which we\u2019ve been, uhh, uhh, trying to work together. Uh, but I — I just want to make clear that, uh, the government, whatever rules it provides to insurers, a public plan would have to abide by those same rules. So we\u2019re not talking about an unlevel, unequal playing field. We\u2019re talking about a level playing field.<\/p>\n

RUSH: This is absurd. This is outrageous. The rules? ‘Whatever rules government provides to insurers, a public plan would have to abide by the same rules.\u2019 These are the same rules that are going to be applied to making cars. The same rules that are going to be applied to mortgages and so? What is this? Can the private plans raise taxes? No, they can\u2019t. In fact, private insurers cannot go out and raise taxes to defray their costs, but Obama can. It\u2019s not a level playing field and it never is. The government doesn\u2019t ever have to make a profit. Another thing they can do is print money if there\u2019s a shortage of it. Mr. Williams over at Aetna can\u2019t do that. All right. To the phones. People have been patiently waiting. We\u2019ll start with Steve in Fort Lauderdale, who is in residence, and he has a reaction to Obama\u2019s show last night. Hi, Steve. Thank you for waiting. <\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s an honor to speak with you, Rush. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir. <\/p>\n

CALLER: A couple points I wanted to make. The first one, Obama\u2019s assertion that doctors are ordering more and more tests to get more and more compensation is ridiculous. I\u2019m compensated to see and to treat a patient regardless of what I order. But I am having to order more and more tests to protect my backside. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Exactly right. <\/p>\n

CALLER: So we should be talking tort reform, not driving down the cost of health care. <\/p>\n

RUSH: You can forget tort reform, just like you can forget union reform, because the tort lawyers are the second biggest contributing base besides the unions, after the unions, to Democrats and Obama. You\u2019re absolutely right. They order all these tests to cover themselves in case some patient wants to sue them for misdiagnosis or something. <\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s exactly right. And you have to. Not only is it to protect yourself financially, but also three strikes in Florida, I\u2019ll be bagging groceries. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Three strikes? You mean…? Give me a definition of a ‘strike.\u2019 <\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s gone through various stages, but if you lose so many malpractice cases, you can lose your license — and I\u2019m not talking about gross negligent things. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. And how hard is it to get a jury impaneled these days that\u2019s going to hate the doctor, hate the insurance company and award some schlub gazillions of dollars because somebody misdiagnosed a pimple? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Because they want to be the next schlub that gets the next million dollars. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: The other point I wanted to make if I have the time with you is him talking about ‘specialists.\u2019 Now, I\u2019m in a specialty residency. And he\u2019s saying that we need to try to drive more of the compensation to the general practice folks. I think it\u2019s going to be a wash in the end without that. I\u2019m carrying about $300,000 of student loans that\u2019s going to be accruing interest for the next five years. The people who have already graduated and are out practicing, they\u2019re not. They\u2019re also gaining a nice income at this point, when I\u2019m not. So for him to say that somebody\u2019s doing it just for money and we need to try to compensate the general practice people more because too many people want to do certain things… <\/p>\n

RUSH: All that means, there\u2019s a way to translate that, too. He wants more people to go to a GP rather than specialists. Forget the why. This is what he\u2019s having to do to ostensibly ‘cut costs.\u2019 So you have the President of the United States telling private citizens who want to be doctors where they can go and where they can\u2019t go. It\u2019s exactly out of the Hillary plan, by the way. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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