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RUSH: Windsor, Ontario, Ed — this is in Canada — great to have you on the program, sir. Thank you for waiting.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes. Thank you for taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yes, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I have a concrete example of the effect of the Ontario, Canada, health care system on one family unfortunately. Today\u2019s Windsor Star newspaper, page five, this gentleman, he\u2019s 30 years old, husband, father, has been in the system treated for cancer, but it\u2019s come back. He has stage four melanoma. He has inoperable tumors on his heart and his colon. There\u2019s one treatment available to him now, it\u2019s Interleukin 2. It\u2019s essentially unavailable in Canada. He and his wife, after hassling with the bureaucrats of the Ontario, Canada, health care system, which is so praised, two months of hassling, they got approved to go to the United States and have the treatment done and paid for. There are two world-class treatment centers in Detroit, about a half hour from his house. I\u2019m looking at GM building in Detroit right now across the river.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CLARK: Okay. He did not get approved for Harbor Hospital or Karmanos Cancer Center in Detroit. He got approved by the Ontario system for the Roswell Park Cancer Institute in Buffalo, New York. Instead of a half hour trip there and a half hour trip back — I\u2019ve had cancer treatment and I\u2019m —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a second. There\u2019s one word in what you\u2019re saying —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — that ought to send chills up people\u2019s back and the word is ‘approved.\u2019 Here you\u2019re describing a Canadian citizen with stage four melanoma and only a couple treatments available.<\/p>\n

CALLER: One treatment.<\/p>\n

RUSH: One treatment available. And he has only been approved to go to one hospital that happens to be in Buffalo, approved. That\u2019s where we\u2019re headed — ‘approved.\u2019 You mean to tell me this guy cannot get in his car and cross the border because if he goes someplace unapproved Canada won\u2019t pay for it?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, no, he\u2019d be hooked for it, and no follow-up care because he didn\u2019t do an approved procedure.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Approved procedure at an approved location, Canada single payer health care.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir. When you\u2019ve had cancer treatment, and I\u2019ve had it, a half hour ride home is plenty. But four hours I can\u2019t imagine, that\u2019s going to affect his — well, his shot. You know, your immune system is weakened by everything —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — just the survival. That is not the only story. It happens to be right here on the page. The guy was not a person who abused his own health. He used to run the Detroit marathon. He is a kinesiologist, he works in the health system.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Who cares if he abused his own health?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, he didn\u2019t.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I know he didn\u2019t but —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — in my version of freedom, who cares if he did? Health care ought to be available. There\u2019s nobody that doesn\u2019t abuse their health. Some might say that doing all that jogging is an abusive treatment to joints and this sort of thing, who the hell knows? This is all absurd. This is just 1984ish absurd.<\/p>\n

CALLER: The worst absurdity, Rush, is — and I\u2019ve listened to you for a long time — people do not understand, we have freedoms in Canada more than almost anyone in the world, but we have a lot of them just through cultural exchange with you people. They\u2019re here because they\u2019re here. You have these freedoms in law. You have the Constitution. You have all these things written down. No one in the world has these, and you\u2019re letting them get taken away. It drives us completely crazy.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir. And you know why it\u2019s happening? Because people think that letting go of their liberty is giving them security.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, we know the phrase about that, that you\u2019ll have neither.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I wish I had a better story to tell you. <\/p>\n

RUSH: It\u2019s a great story, it\u2019s a great story in the sense of it\u2019s instructive. Details are not happy for this guy, but, for crying out loud, one treatment is available, it isn\u2019t available in Canada, he has to be approved. In other words, to take a step, save his life, requires the government approving it. That is going to happen whenever there\u2019s a government-run health care system. I\u2019ll tell you where this is headed, I can make this story worse. At some point, somebody\u2019s going to say, ‘Look, stage four, tumor heart, tumor wherever, only a couple places will do it, we\u2019re not going to approve any treatment, it\u2019s a waste of money, we don\u2019t have the money for it. I mean, this guy\u2019s near the end of life anyway, give him a patch and that\u2019s it.\u2019 That\u2019s where we\u2019re headed with this because everything\u2019s going to be based on money and how we can\u2019t afford this, can\u2019t afford that, and a lot of people are going to get a death sentence that today don\u2019t. Thanks Ed. Appreciate the call. A lot of gold-mine calls on the EIB Network today.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Here\u2019s Joan in Fleetwood, Pennsylvania. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Mr. Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thanks for taking the call and please keep up the good work.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, madam.<\/p>\n

CALLER: My question — or I guess my comment — would be: I was under the impression that when Mr. Obama was going to offer a health care reform plan that it was going to be on the same level that he and his family or the senators or congressmen have or representatives have along the same line as what they have. Is this plan along their lines?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Ha! Pfffft! Their plan… Imagine, their plan is this.<\/p>\n

CALLER: If it is, I\u2019ll sign up. (laughing)<\/p>\n

RUSH: You can\u2019t get this plan!<\/p>\n

CALLER: I figured that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: This plan is essentially whatever you need whenever you need it, at no cost.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Mmm-hmm.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And I don\u2019t remember Obama promising that. I know every politician says, ‘You ought to have the health care that we have in the US Senate or the US House of Representatives.\u2019 They always say that because people love hearing members of Congress rip government. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Mmm-hmm.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But there\u2019s no way to provide it. I mean, you have 435 House members. You have a hundred senators. That\u2019s 535 people and you got 200 million people paying for it!<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well —<\/p>\n

RUSH: If you can find 200 million people to pay for your health care, I guaran-damn-tee you it won\u2019t cost you a penny.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It sounds pretty good. Now, I\u2019m a senior citizen. When my husband was alive, I had insurance.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You don\u2019t sound old enough to be a senior citizen.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, thank you very much. I\u2019m a former Missourian. I\u2019m a transplant. (garbled)<\/p>\n

RUSH: What part of Missouri? <\/p>\n

CALLER: St. Louis, Missouri.<\/p>\n

RUSH: St. Louis!<\/p>\n

CALLER: That was years ago, yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But I pay $363 a month to carry my insurance because I need it.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right. You do, as a seasoned citizen. You\u2019re at the point in life where you do need it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right. Now, if he taxes that, I\u2019m pretty sure I\u2019m not going to be able to afford that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Are you employed? <\/p>\n

CALLER: No.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, then —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Retired.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, no. You\u2019re paying for it out of your pocket? <\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You won\u2019t pay any see-able taxes on it. This is employee-provided benefits that they\u2019re going to tax as income but you\u2019re just paying for this out-of-pocket as though you\u2019re going to the grocery store every month, right?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, you won\u2019t pay any taxes on it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Eventually you probably will. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Well…<\/p>\n

CALLER: I can\u2019t see —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Depends on how you define a tax. I mean, depending on what Obama gets done here, your $363 a month might become $500.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Mmm-hmm.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And you could view that as a tax increase. Or your option to buy it might go away.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, that\u2019s probably what will happen.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s probably it. Your option to buy it is going to go away because whatever plan you\u2019re in, they might opt out of it to go into the government option, which is what a loooot of insurance companies want to do, what a loooot of businesses want to do. Trust me on this, my friends. Do not doubt me. (sigh) I\u2019m happy to be able to help her straighten that out, though. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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