{"id":32671,"date":"2009-06-15T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T02:20:03","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T02:20:03","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T02:20:03","slug":"callers_weigh_in_on_obamacare","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2009\/06\/15\/callers_weigh_in_on_obamacare\/","title":{"rendered":"Callers Weigh In on Obamacare"},"content":{"rendered":"
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RUSH: Here\u2019s Walter in Blairstown, New Jersey. Great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: TV dittos!<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You\u2019re welcome. I know something about health insurance because much of my adult life I\u2019ve carried my own policy, and Obama is setting up this straw man — President Obama I should say is setting up this straw man — about ‘preexisting conditions.\u2019 Preexisting conditions is not so much something you have as something you know you have. It\u2019s something that has to be diagnosed previously or it\u2019s something that a reasonable person would have to seek medical attention for. And President Obama is making it out that a person can be denied coverage. A person cannot be denied coverage because of preexisting conditions. Treatment can be denied for a period of time. But my son is disabled. He\u2019s blind and he\u2019s deaf. (ahem) I\u2019m nervous, Rush. He\u2019s blind. He\u2019s deaf. He has a heart condition. He needs support in all areas of living. And last year, New Jersey canceled his Medicaid. So I called my insurance company, and I said — being a responsible person — I needed a policy for my son. So I explained to them that he\u2019s disabled and that he takes a lot of medicine, but I was still able to buy coverage for him. And not only was I able to buy coverage for him, but because he had Medicaid going in there was nothing against his preexisting conditions.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right. Now, that\u2019s an excellent point. And I\u2019ll tell you something else. If you didn\u2019t have that private option, you\u2019d be SOL. You wouldn\u2019t be able to get insurance for your kid from the government.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And, Rush, they could not deny him coverage they can\u2019t even charge him more. The charge is based on —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, you\u2019re going to have a lot of people out there like this. We\u2019re gonna get a lot of calls from people who have preexisting condition limitations put on them that are going to disagree with what you\u2019re saying. I just want to prepare you for that if we get some we\u2019ll put \u2019em on because this is very strange what you\u2019re saying to a lot of people who have been bitten by this preexisting condition rigmarole.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I live in New Jersey. I\u2019ve done this in New York, and I\u2019ve done it in New Jersey. I can\u2019t speak to all 50 states. His premium was exactly the same. They have a rate chart. It goes by the county you live in and it goes by your age.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, here\u2019s something else. There\u2019s another point I want to make about this. Did you hear the description that Walter gave of his son? He\u2019s disabled in practically every way you can be. He\u2019s blind. He\u2019s deaf. He has a heart problem of some sort. Now, that is the kind of condition for which we need reasonable insurance. We don\u2019t need health insurance for people that go to the doctor for a sore throat. We don\u2019t need 50 tests when you have a sore throat, or however many tests they give you. But it\u2019s this kind of unusual, out-of-the-ordinary condition that ought to be the first that\u2019s insured and take a lot of other people off the insurance rolls who could pay for this by themselves. And then you will lower premiums for everybody and you\u2019ll cover the people who actually need it. Because this man with his son\u2019s condition, there is no family that could afford the kind of medical bills that this young man\u2019s going to require. That\u2019s what you need catastrophic insurance for. <\/p>\n

And it\u2019s conditions like his, his kid\u2019s, that are the hardest to ensure because everybody else is being insured for things and they have to draw the line. ‘Okay, you\u2019ve got a preexisting condition here. Why should we insure this?\u2019 Life expectancy, all that soft stuff. But if you lower the cost pressure, the price pressure on some of these other insurance policies that are not even necessary… Now, the insurance company might not like hearing me say this. They love the premiums. But still, when you talk about a responsible health care system, this is it. We don\u2019t need insurance for nine people to make 2,600 visits to a single emergency room in six years. We don\u2019t need health insurance for that. This is so out of whack. But this preexisting condition stuff… Look, I have preexisting conditions. We all do. I\u2019m 58 years old. I\u2019m able to get insurance. I have to have, every year, Key Man Insurance in order to do this program since I am it. If I go, so goes the show. So I have to get insurance for that. There\u2019s a thriving business called Key Man. You would not believe the physical I have to take for this, and it shows up preexisting conditions. The premium is what it is. You go to get the best price you can. But the point is I can get it. It\u2019s out there. I wonder what would happen to Key Man Insurance when the government\u2019s running it, especially mine.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Seana in Spring, Texas. Great to have you here in the EIB Network. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. I\u2019m so excited to talk to you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I am a doctor in Texas, and I was listening to Barry\u2019s speech and he says that doctors will be better off because if we don\u2019t prices are going to skyrocket, premiums will go up and our practices will suffer. But if you listen to what he said, he said that a large part of this will be paid by reimbursements being based on outcomes and best practices, which means that if a patient doesn\u2019t get a perfect outcome they\u2019re just going to deny the claim. And this already happened —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That\u2019s bad enough.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But who\u2019s in charge of deciding the best outcome?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Two people: the trial lawyers and Barack Obama.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hmm. Well, and I\u2019ll give you an example, this already happened with Medicare. If you have a patient in the hospital, and she needs a catheter in her bladder for days at a time and she gets an infection from that catheter even though having it in was the standard of care, Medicare will deny the whole admission and not pay for anything if she gets an infection.<\/p>\n

RUSH: How common are bladder infections with a catheter?<\/p>\n

CALLER: All the time.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Pretty common.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Even if you get antibiotics and you do everything right and everything perfect it\u2019s going to happen sometimes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: The whole admittance, everything to do with it, can be denied?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes. And that happens every day.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So the doctor basically works from the hospital, in his office, works for nothing?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And Obama says this is going to get worse if we don\u2019t do his plan.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, cut to the chase. You\u2019re a doctor, you heard Obama\u2019s speech. Are you inspired?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Absolutely not. Quite the contrary. I don\u2019t believe anything he said about costs.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Are you a member of the AMA?<\/p>\n

CALLER: No.<\/p>\n

RUSH: All right. You know about them, I\u2019m sure.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I do, but they\u2019re a little too liberal for me.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, it\u2019s like the American Bar Association, just a bunch of commie bastards anymore. They are, they are, just a bunch of commie bastards anymore, leadership, American Bar Association, tort lawyers run the whole thing. If the AMA is a similar special interest group, all Obama has to do is promise the AMA some money. There\u2019s all kinds of leverage he has with that group and then of course the Drive-Bys, the State-Run Media can go to the AMA, report whatever one person there says, and make the country think that\u2019s the opinion of every doctor. So we\u2019ll see how this shakes out. Thanks, Seana. <\/p>\n

Dick in Northampton, Massachusetts, your turn. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. I think a good headline for that Flint story would be, ‘Destroy it and increase its value.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: What\u2019s the headline?<\/p>\n

CALLER: That would be a good headline for the story: ‘Destroy something and increase its value.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, I see what you mean, yeah, they want to bulldoze — if you\u2019ve missed this, they want to bulldoze 40% of Flint because apparently 40% of the town has homes that are boarded up, foreclosed on, and so forth, so they want to bulldoze it and turn that land over to nature and downsize the city. I mean that\u2019s just something I thought I never would see in America.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, we had urban renewal back in the sixties, and there are cities that are still suffering from that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. Okay, it\u2019s another form of urban renewal. And we know who got renewed, by the way.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And they weren\u2019t renewed.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, the reason I called, Rush, was I\u2019ve been thinking about the first chance that the electorate will have to put the brakes on the government, is of course the congressional elections in 2010.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And I was thinking, where could we get some candidates that would have name recognition and not too heavily identified with the party, would have the skills and everything, and I thought, how would it go to encourage disenfranchised car dealers of which there are five, an average of five in every congressional district, to run for Congress? They have the mailing list, local contacts, are known locally, people evidentially trust them if they\u2019ve been customers of them.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, but see, look, if a disenfranchised car dealer runs for office, how many voters are going to trust the sticker price of the vote?<\/p>\n

CALLER: (laughing) Well, they have as good a chance as they have trusting the sticker price on the vote that they\u2019re going to get otherwise.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Look, I like your thinking. I like the fact that you are thinking, \u2019cause there are a lot of disgruntled, disenfranchised — their businesses have been taken away from them by Barack Obama, who doesn\u2019t want to run the car business! He doesn\u2019t want to run the banks. He doesn\u2019t want to run health care. He\u2019s got enough on his plate. He\u2019s got Iran, he\u2019s got Iraq, he\u2019s got North Korea, he\u2019s got Afghanistan. He doesn\u2019t want to run all this stuff. But he doesn\u2019t make any speeches about any of that other stuff. He runs around and makes sales pitch speeches on all this domestic stuff that he wants to control. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: Lincoln in New Orleans. Great to have you on the program, sir. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush, great to talk with you. I just wanted to respond to a very perceptive comment you made regarding Obama quoting the AMA. Obama obviously is doing this as a public relations ploy to get them to sign on board to his version of health care reform.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Now, what the public does not understand is that the AMA does not represent America\u2019s physicians. The AMA, to put it kindly, has always been very, very supportive of politicians. The AMA has not been very supportive or very representative of doctors\u2019 interests. Only about 25, maybe 30%, at most, of the nation\u2019s physicians are members of the AMA. I\u2019m a surgeon. I have not been an AMA member for 20 years. I think most of surgeons in this country are not AMA members. So it\u2019s a very convenient way for Obama to go ahead, make a big PR splash in front of the convention there in Chicago, try and get the AMA to sign on board, and (unintelligible) to then extrapolate that to say the nation\u2019s physicians support my health care plan, which is a huge, huge, huge leap of —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, it\u2019s like the AARP, it\u2019s claiming to represent every seasoned citizen or the ABA claiming to represent every lawyer. My brother is a lawyer and I\u2019ll guarantee you whatever the ABA says about judicial nominees, 90% of the time, my brother disagrees with. I think my brother is a member of the ABA, American Bar Association. I don\u2019t know. <\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s a pretty good analogy —<\/p>\n

RUSH: The AMA is the same thing, huh?<\/p>\n

CALLER: The AMA is the same thing. Doctors snicker at the AMA, and sure they have a core group of supporters but as far as the rank-and-file physician in America being a supporter of the AMA, or the AMA speaking for physicians, no way.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Good. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Our problem is America\u2019s physicians are a very, very diverse group of people, with diverse interests so it makes it very easily politically —<\/p>\n

RUSH: I knew it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — to be divided and conquered.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I knew it, I knew it. Obama goes out there and talks to a left wing group — like the union leadership — it\u2019s like all union members are left-wing Democrats. They\u2019re not. Anyway, there\u2019s no question he\u2019s going to say, ‘Yeah, the AMA supports my plan,\u2019 thereby try to make everybody think all the doctors do, we\u2019ve heard from you, we\u2019ve heard from the woman doctor in Spring, Texas, said she\u2019s not even a member of the AMA. Lincoln I appreciate the call. I really do. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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