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GLENN: Now we go to the former head of the Republican Party. He did step down yesterday, but Mr. Rush Limbaugh is with us. Rush, how are you, sir?<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019m fine. Hey, Glenn, how are you? You feeling better today?<\/p>\n

GLENN: I am feeling a little bit better today. Thank you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: NyQuil? How do you stay awake taking that stuff?<\/p>\n

GLENN: I have no idea. It\u2019s the first time I\u2019ve tried it. It\u2019s not a good thing. Rush, I wanted to ask you: What is the most disturbing thing that you see coming out of Washington and of California with the grab of the rights? What are you most concerned about?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I think it\u2019s hard to single out one thing. I think it\u2019s a cumulative thing. But, Glenn, the thing that worries me the most about it is I think… Obama is who he is. Liberal Democrat politicians and other politicians who are oriented toward acquiring power are who they are. They\u2019ve always been who they are. The question that we\u2019re all asking is: At what point the American people decided they wanted this kind of power grab by government into the private sector, or have they decided that? Did they vote for a cult-like figure based on emotion when they voted for Obama? If so, what\u2019s it gonna take for them to wake up? <\/p>\n

I mean, the politics of this is that with the numbers in Washington, even if the Republican Party was a unified conservative opposition in stark contrast to Obama — even if they were all unified — they don\u2019t have the numbers to stop anything that he\u2019s doing. It\u2019s going to require the American people stopping this. And you have to wonder at this stage, where are they? Do they want the government owning their house? Do they want the government owning the mortgage company that they deal with and the bank that they deal with? Do they want the government owning the car company that they\u2019re going to buy their little putt-putt from? Until we know the answer to that, we\u2019re not going to know just how serious this is gonna get before we can make it better.<\/p>\n

GLENN: You know, I saw Barack Obama today. I think he\u2019s — I think he\u2019s an extraordinarily talented man, very, very shrewd, very good politician. He was giving a speech today at the National Archives. He was standing right in front of the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. I think this man sees the disenfranchisement in this country, and he\u2019s going to wrap himself — not in the flag. He\u2019s going to wrap himself in those documents to make himself, somehow or another, look like the grand protector of the Constitution, when I think we\u2019ve shredded much of it under him just recently.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. Good point. (laughs) The speeches today, his speech and Vice President Cheney\u2019s. I had somebody e-mail me during my radio program this afternoon who watched both speeches, and said it looked like President Obama was doing the Democrat response to a presidential address by Dick Cheney, just in reverse order.<\/p>\n

GLENN: (chuckling)<\/p>\n

RUSH: Obama was very defensive. He made sure he had a hall where he had the godlike echo in front of those documents. But I thought it was eerie. It was eerie to me, Glenn. Here\u2019s a man who starts out… He\u2019s talking about national security, and starts out with his own personal story with his father, mother, emigrate in the country and all this other stuff. And the man\u2019s a pure, full-fledged, man-child narcissist who has to make everything about him. And while he\u2019s talking about protecting us and defending us and so forth, the Federal Reserve yesterday came out and said the economic forecast for the rest of the year is even worse. Unemployment is going to go even higher. GDP is going to drop even lower. <\/p>\n

Nothing is getting better! Nothing that the man has done, while telling everybody, ‘This is going to fix it,\u2019 is fixing anything. And, back to my first point: We can pound this and we can remind people of this, but they\u2019re going to have to experience it. I have a friend who has a couple kids in college, and they bought everything that Algore said about global warming. And their father said, ‘No, no, no, no, no.\u2019 He gave them facts, figures to illustrate it as an overblown scientific hoax. It wasn\u2019t until this winter when they were still shoveling snow in April in Kansas that they began to think, ‘Hmmm! Maybe this isn\u2019t true.\u2019 So until people are personally impacted by this in a way that they tie Obama to it, he\u2019s going to get away with the behavior that you just described.<\/p>\n

GLENN: You know, Rush, I\u2019m concerned because this guy is… He is so effective at playing right into — I mean, he… What he says and what he does rarely matches up. He\u2019s also very, very good at focus groups, finding keywords and using them, but not in a way that — not — not — not enacting the things that people would want with those words. And now today, for the first time, apparently the White House has their own news division now to where they didn\u2019t allow the press in to cover an event that President Obama was doing, and the White House put together a news package with the lower third and absolutely everything. The press said, ‘We wanted to cover it,\u2019 and they said, ‘Don\u2019t worry about it. We\u2019ve got the package for you,\u2019 and they put the package out. Now they\u2019re becoming a news service as well!<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, what you\u2019re describing is somebody who\u2019s entirely phony. You\u2019re describing somebody who cannot rely on who he genuinely is — and I think that\u2019s going to eventually lead to the plummet in his popularity ratings. Because, you know, the life, the reality of life at some point is going to have to intersect with the words. Right now, you\u2019re right. It\u2019s not what Obama says; it is how he says it that has the magical effect —<\/p>\n

GLENN: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — on people, and until the reality of the not-improving situation… We were talking today on the radio about this. Somebody called and said, ‘When are we going to revive the misery index?\u2019 I said, ‘Well, we can\u2019t have the misery index until somebody reports the fact that there\u2019s misery.\u2019 You can watch the news networks all day long and you can… I found it fascinating that back during the Bush years we had reports every day for six years on how, ‘We\u2019re heading into a recession. The economy is in the tank,\u2019 and people believed it. Even though their own lives were just fine, they thought other people were hurting. There is no news detailing how people are suffering. <\/p>\n

GLENN: Mmm-hmm.<\/p>\n

RUSH: We\u2019ve got all these foreclosures; we have all this unemployment. We don\u2019t see the hard-luck stories about what people are doing to overcome this. And so the public at large, even in the midst of this bad news, doesn\u2019t think that many people are being harmed by it \u2019cause the country\u2019s going on. We\u2019re launching shuttles. The banks are operating, you can go use your credit card and so forth. So I don\u2019t know. We\u2019re looking at this as an opposition party very early on in this man\u2019s term; it\u2019s just barely past a hundred days now. And patience is something that we\u2019re just all going to have to muster and understand who we\u2019re dealing with here. I do disagree with you on one thing. I know he\u2019s got a very eloquent speaking ability, very talented and so forth, but I think with the right political candidate, Glenn, in 2008 he could have been defeated.<\/p>\n

GLENN: Oh, I agree.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I don\u2019t think there\u2019s —<\/p>\n

GLENN: Yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I don\u2019t think there\u2019s any reason to be afraid here; there\u2019s no reason to be intimidated. He\u2019s just a man, puts his pants on one leg at a time like Hillary does. It\u2019s no reason to get all intimidated and think all is lost.<\/p>\n

GLENN: Yeah, I don\u2019t disagree with you on that, Rush. I think the problem with the last election was, America had to choose between two ‘progressives.\u2019 I mean, any man who says Teddy Roosevelt was — is his — is his idol and answers questions the way John McCain does… John McCain is a progressive. The problem with the Republican Party is not that it\u2019s — it\u2019s — it is too conservative. The problem with the Republican Party is, it doesn\u2019t even know what it is except Progressive Lite. It\u2019s gotta be for small government, small government. And right now, I haven\u2019t seen that. Have you seen a turning point with the Republicans at all, that they understand that?<\/p>\n

RUSH: No. And you were talking about California and the vote at the top of the program. This is why I officially resigned yesterday as the titular head of the Republican Party. I didn\u2019t seek the job. It was anointed to me. I was given the job by the Obama White House and the media. The Republican Party, conservative intellectuals, Republican Party intellectuals and blue-blood country club Rockefeller types, for the last year-and-a-half, two years, have been trying to reorganize the party under the premise that the era of Reagan is over when it comes to tax cuts. ‘No, no, no, that\u2019s old. Tax cuts don\u2019t relate to what\u2019s happening in 2009. And plus, we gotta get rid of these social conservatives. We gotta get rid of the social issues. We\u2019re never going to win elections.\u2019 The truth is that the country club blue-blood Rockefeller types never won anything. It was the Reagan coalition, all these people the Republican Party is trying to kick out that finally was able to win landslide elections. The blueprint\u2019s there; the Republican Party is rejecting it. This vote in California yesterday, you described it accurately. Even though the low turnout, it was still a nuclear blast, a political nuclear blast. And it sends a message to politicians, okay, here\u2019s a way to contrast yourself with Obama. He\u2019s spending — we\u2019re in debt $11 trillion. The people are fed up. They know what the future holds for their children and grandchildren. But, Glenn, if there isn\u2019t a Republican Party that is willing to pick up the action of what happened in California and run with it, then it may as well not have happened.<\/p>\n\n

GLENN: You\u2019re exactly right. You know what, Rush, when people say, ‘What can I do?\u2019 I can\u2019t tell you of a person that I could look in the eye — well, maybe a couple people — that I think are Republicans that are serving that I know would say, ‘We\u2019re going to do what Reagan wanted to do. We\u2019re gonna cut all of these departments of education, we\u2019re just cutting them. It\u2019s too big, it\u2019s too bloated. That\u2019s not what this government was supposed to be.\u2019 And I tell you, they keep making the argument that if you vote for a conservative, oh, well, we\u2019re going to round up all of the unwed mothers and throw them in furnaces or whatever it is. That\u2019s not what this movement is about at all. You\u2019re right on the social aspect. What this movement is about is they are destroying our children\u2019s future. Look, I don\u2019t care what you do in your own bedroom. We won\u2019t have a bedroom left anymore, we\u2019re all going to be living in Hooverville or Obamaville if we don\u2019t stop this spending. <\/p>\n\n

RUSH: (laughing) Yeah, the way to go about this, I think, the one thing that\u2019s never going to go out of style in this country, the one thing that distinguished the human beings that live in this country versus the human beings in all time, throughout human history and the rest of the world, is freedom. The reason we\u2019re the greatest country in the history of humanity in less than 300 years, is freedom, the freedom and the ability of human beings to maximize potential, desire, was granted by virtue of our founding documents to people born in this country. And what\u2019s happening with this expansion of government and the incursion in the private sector by the federal government is loss of liberty. So the way back here is to remind people of what made the country great, what is their birthright, what is the natural yearning of their spirit, the human spirit\u2019s freedom, not to be confined, not to be treated like sheep, not to go along with the tug of popular culture, to be independent, be self-reliant, promote your own self-interests, which helps everybody in your family, in your neighborhood. Freedom is the key here. I don\u2019t mean to trash conservatives in Washington when I talk about Republicans. I\u2019m talking about —<\/p>\n\n

GLENN: Republicans?<\/p>\n\n

RUSH: — elected Republicans you talked about. Somebody\u2019s going to surface at some point.<\/p>\n\n

GLENN: Yeah.<\/p>\n\n

RUSH: It hasn\u2019t happened now. The thing in California just represents a great opportunity for somebody to seize it —<\/p>\n\n

GLENN: Rush — <\/p>\n\n

RUSH: — who is in Republican electoral politics and run with this. And that thing in California, it\u2019s all about people are tired of losing their freedom, paying higher taxes to fund a bloated, inefficient, wasteful government that\u2019s not getting anything done, that people are elected for. The only responsibility the people of California have for this mess is that they keep electing the people that make it.<\/p>\n\n

GLENN: Rush, help me out on this, \u2019cause you always get thrown under the bus, well, you know, where were you when George Bush was spending, et cetera, et cetera. I have to tell you, the Republican Party doesn\u2019t get it. You just said, echoed again, what I was saying about the progressive Republicans, George Bush, this compassionate conservative movement has got to die a violent death.<\/p>\n\n

RUSH: Yeah. Glenn, let me tell you something. Personally, I don\u2019t mind people asking me that question, where were you with all the spending? I remember — I don\u2019t want to mention any names — I was getting phone calls from people in the White House angry because I was opposed to every attempt they made to do amnesty. I was opposed to the Medicare expansion.<\/p>\n\n

GLENN: Yep.<\/p>\n\n

RUSH: I had Tom DeLay call me mad as he could be: ‘What do you mean? This is good. We\u2019re getting the private sector.\u2019 I said, ‘No, it\u2019s an entitlement and Republicans don\u2019t do that.\u2019 I wasn\u2019t alone in complaining about some of the spending, but the elected Republicans — here\u2019s the problem with it, when you\u2019re a Republican and your president is a Republican, you have to go along with him. If you break from him, then you\u2019ve got party disunity and so forth. The Republicans in the House, I think they were in a no-win situation with some of the spending the Bush administration was doing in opposing it, because they\u2019re charged with carrying his agenda forward. DeLay, to this day, thinks the Medicare entitlement is a great thing. I don\u2019t mean to be critical of him, but I don\u2019t think that\u2019s that big an obstacle to overcome. Even with all the Bush spending, Obama has obliterated whatever the Bush spending was. To say that we didn\u2019t oppose Bush even though we did on spending disqualifies us from opposing this outrage is nonsense. Too many Republicans are allowing themselves to be intimidated and silenced by a dominant media culture and a Washington political class that wants to achieve just that.<\/p>\n\n

GLENN: Rush, I can\u2019t thank you enough for being on the program. I appreciate it, sir. You are a legend. It was an honor to write your Most Influential piece in TIME Magazine. I thank you. We\u2019ll talk again. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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