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RUSH: Now, I got some sound bites here with Chris Matthews and Mike Pence last night. I want to play these for you because it\u2019s very instructive about what the liberal media is attempting to do to Republicans: portray Republicans as anti-science; portray Republicans as not believing in evolution, only believe in creationism; blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I play this Matthews stuff for you because I don\u2019t think it\u2019s just Matthews. Normally I won\u2019t give a hoot, but I think this is a template that the left has come up with and that they\u2019re going to be hitting a whole lot of Republicans with over the course of the near future. So here\u2019s the first of three sound bites we have on this. This is an exchange, again, Chris Matthews with Mike Pence of Indiana on science.<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: (shouting) Republicans aren\u2019t known for being green! Your party\u2019s come up with this alternative but nobody really believes you got any passion on this subject! If there\u2019s any passion on the subject it\u2019s Limbaugh! How can your party be credible on dealing with CO2 emissions, with greenhouse gases, when the loudest voices in your party don\u2019t believe in it? <\/p>\n

PENCE: Well, I —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: (screaming) They just don\u2019t believe in it!<\/p>\n

PENCE: Well, let me tell you. I think the science is very mixed on the subject —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS (interrupting): Okay, well, how can you get excited…?<\/p>\n

PENCE: — of global warming, Chris. I —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: (interrupting) — then — then — th-th-then —<\/p>\n

PENCE: Well —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: Why should your party believe you\u2019re going to get serious —<\/p>\n

PENCE: Yeah, absolutely, I —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: — about if you say the science is mixed?<\/p>\n

PENCE: Yeah, that\u2019s fair question, but look, I\u2019m all for clean air. I\u2019m all for clean coal technology. You just wait and see. We\u2019re going to go all across the country with these energy summits and —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: Harrumph!<\/p>\n

PENCE: — hear from the American people, and we\u2019re going to educate the American people on a twenty-first century Republican —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: Okay.<\/p>\n

PENCE: — agenda for the environment.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So you see what\u2019s being set up here? Republicans are anti-science because — and there\u2019s this word ‘belief.\u2019 We don\u2019t believe that CO2 emissions are destroying the planet. Therefore, we\u2019re anti-science. And presumptive in this question is that there\u2019s no question at all about the science. The science is settled! That everybody knows that carbon dioxide emissions destroy the planet, and that\u2019s a false premise. It isn\u2019t true. So the effort here is to portray Republicans as Neanderthal on this basis. Here\u2019s the question if I had been on with Matthews last night. I would have ask him the following question: ‘Why is it, Chris, that you and all of the other environmentalists in the West who subscribe to the theories you subscribe to, always end up hurting poor people?\u2019 <\/p>\n

And he would start sputtering and spewing and spitting. <\/p>\n

I\u2019d say, ‘Is it just a coincidence that your environmentalist policies hurt poor people?\u2019 <\/p>\n

‘What do you mean? What do you mean?\u2019<\/p>\n

‘Well, go to Africa! Go to Africa where the environmental movement is denying technological improvement in terms of agriculture, air-conditioning, refrigeration. You want them to remain Third World countries under this silly belief that their primitive lifestyles will save the planet. All they\u2019re doing is staying poor. They\u2019re not advancing; they\u2019re starving to death! They\u2019re dependent on the rest of the world for whatever it is they get, but you\u2019re happy that they\u2019re starving and dependent because somehow they\u2019re ‘saving the planet\u2019 because they have no CO2 emissions. Let\u2019s go to China. We have just learned that these new curlicue lightbulbs, these compact fluorescents… <\/p>\n

‘There\u2019s a story: ‘Green Lightbulbs Poison Workers\u2019 The mercury in these lightbulbs is poisoning poor people in China who have to manufacture them. Why is it, Chris, that you say the science is totally settled here — and the science is that the CO2 emissions are destroying the planet — and yet when I look around, everybody that is benefiting so-called from your belief is poor and they\u2019re getting creamed! Why do you western environmentalists always end up hurting poor people, wherever it is?\u2019 <\/p>\n

And I could then produce a list of scientists who don\u2019t buy into this at all. ‘Chris, you exhale CO2! By your standard, you are helping to destroy the planet. Here\u2019s the next bite from science into evolution.\u2019<\/p>\n

PENCE: Do I believe in evolution? I embrace the view that God created the heavens and the earth, the seas and all that\u2019s in them, and —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: (interrupting) Right, but you believe in evolution from the beginning.<\/p>\n

PENCE: The means, Chris, that He used to do that, I can\u2019t say, but I do believe —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: (interrupting) You can\u2019t what? <\/p>\n

PENCE: — in that fundamental truth.<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: Well — well did you take biology? (screaming) Did you take biology in school? Did you take science, which is all based on evolutionary belief and assumption?<\/p>\n

PENCE: Well, I\u2019ve always wanted to —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: (screaming) If your party is to be credible on science, you\u2019ve gotta accept science. Do you? <\/p>\n

PENCE: Yeah, I want to —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: Accept science?<\/p>\n

PENCE: I always wanted to play in Inherit the Wind, but on the global warming issue —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: (mocking laughter) <\/p>\n

PENCE: — I know that in the mainstream media…<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: See how you\u2019re hedging? <\/p>\n

PENCE: In the mainstream media —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: (screaming) This is why people don\u2019t trust Republicans!<\/p>\n

PENCE: In mainstream media, Chris —<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: (snorting)<\/p>\n

PENCE: — there is a denial of the growing skepticism in the scientific community about global warming.<\/p>\n

RUSH: See how this is working? I\u2019m playing these sound bites because it isn\u2019t just Matthews. I want you to get ready for more of this to come down the pike. See? Republicans don\u2019t believe in science. You don\u2019t accept science! You Republicans are Neanderthals. So the premise is out there. Whether you\u2019re talking about global warming, evolution, regardless, the premise is out there: Republicans are Neanderthals and don\u2019t accept it. All Republicans do, have blind faith in God. Now, had I been on the program, this is an easy answer. Matthews\u2019 question: ‘You want to educate the American people about science and its relevance. Do you believe in evolution?\u2019 <\/p>\n

‘Yeah. I believe in evolution.\u2019 <\/p>\n

‘Oh, you do? We got a Republican believes in evolution!\u2019 <\/p>\n

‘Yeah, wait, Chris! Wait, though! It can\u2019t explain creation. I mean, we\u2019ve got both. Where did it come from, Chris? Don\u2019t give me the Big Bang. Don\u2019t give me evolution for the Big Bang. Where did this all come from, what was it before it was what it is? Certainly things evolve. There\u2019s no question. There\u2019s no denying it. But evolution does not explain creation.\u2019 <\/p>\n

(sputtering) ‘Buh, buh, buh, buh, but you\u2019re against science!\u2019<\/p>\n

‘No, I\u2019m not against science. I\u2019m against lies. I\u2019m against phony science. I\u2019m against propaganda. I wish people like you would get smarter. You\u2019re a journalist; you\u2019re supposed to be curious. You\u2019re not curious about anything. You blindly believe whatever people on your side put out. I\u2019m curious, Chris. I\u2019m wise enough to know that there are answers to questions I will never get while on this earth. I am wise enough to know that as a human being, there are a lot of questions I can ask to which the answers will not be made available to me while I\u2019m alive. I have the humility to understand that all this is much larger than I am. I am not in control of all of it, Chris. I can\u2019t master it and neither can Stephen Hawking and neither can you. And, by the way Chris, why are you trying to politicize this? And, by the way, Chris, you\u2019re Catholic. What\u2019s wrong with believing in God? Why don\u2019t you tell me, Chris: Is the pope a dummkopf? Is the pope anti-science? Is the pope somebody who ought to be thrown overboard?\u2019<\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know why our guys go on the shows. They don\u2019t have any audience anyway. Here\u2019s the final sound bite in this roster. Matthews says, ‘Look, I\u2019ve asked, do you believe in evolution. Let me go back to the question. You don\u2019t take a fundamental view of the seven days of creation, do you? I mean, there were polls that show a huge percentage of the American people don\u2019t believe in evolution. A lot of people don\u2019t believe in climate change. I\u2019m just questioning your passion of your party for climate change.\u2019<\/p>\n

PENCE: Look, you know, I\u2019ve supported extensive increases in funding to the National Institute of Health. <\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: Humph!<\/p>\n

PENCE: That happened under Republican administrations and Republican Congresses. This anti-science thing is a little bit weak.<\/p>\n

MATTHEWS: (snide) The trouble is that your Mount Rushmore now includes Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, and these characters that don\u2019t share either your intellect or your honesty, and thank you for showing your honesty today.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, now what is it that Beck and Palin and I do not believe? (interruption) We\u2019re being dishonest? Okay. Now, what are Beck and Palin and I being dishonest about, H.R.? Because I\u2019ve lost…? What are we being dishonest about? It\u2019s gotta be global warming, it\u2019s gotta be: Okay, we\u2019re ‘deniers.\u2019 See, gets back to whatever. Matthews simply BELIEVES. He cannot intellectually prove his case, he cannot intellectually explain it. Do you remember…? I\u2019ll give you a great example. Juan Williams at Fox, who\u2019s a bright guy, heard Vaclav Havel from the Czech Republic when he was in the United States totally nuke the ‘science\u2019 of global warming. And Juan Williams said, ‘I\u2019d never heard that. I\u2019d never heard an alternative to…\u2019 These guys, they just believe it. Algore says it! The scientists at the green clubs, Sierra Club say it, and they believe it, just believe. There\u2019s no curiosity; there\u2019s no doubting. Some of them don\u2019t even see the left-wing agenda aspect of it. They really think they\u2019re good people here. Somehow people that deny global warming… I don\u2019t ‘deny\u2019 global warming, by the way, Chris. I just deny manmade global warming. Because, even if it\u2019s warming up, we can\u2019t cool it off — and if we\u2019re heading into an ice age, we can\u2019t warm it up. We don\u2019t have the power. What Chris Matthews refers to as ‘stupidity\u2019 is a characteristic I think he ought to try to retain and get back — and that\u2019s a little humility in the face of things much larger or complex than he can ever explain or understand.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: I got a note from a friend of mine, and it\u2019s well worth mentioning here, talking about settled science, something to throw back at Chris Matthews. Hey, Chris, the American Psychiatric Association once classified homosexuality as a neurosis. Was that settled science? Did you believe them, Chris, when scientists came out, the American Psychiatric Association, a bunch of scientists, classified homosexuality as a neurosis? Was that settled science for you, Chris? <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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