{"id":32371,"date":"2011-05-19T02:25:26","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T02:25:26","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T02:25:26","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T02:25:26","slug":"andy_mccarthy_on_doj_torture_and_the_demjanjuk_contradiction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/andy_mccarthy_on_doj_torture_and_the_demjanjuk_contradiction\/","title":{"rendered":"Andy McCarthy on DOJ, “Torture” and the Demjanjuk Contradiction"},"content":{"rendered":"
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RUSH: If you\u2019ve seen this story and you\u2019ve only read the headline or even if you\u2019ve only read the New York Times story about it, or if you\u2019ve only heard the Drive-By Media discussing the story, you do not know the half of it. I\u2019m looking at the headline here. I thought I put it at the top of the stack, but I didn\u2019t. Well, now, where the hell did I put this? Yeah, here we go. I did put it back in the stack when I shouldn\u2019t have. New York Times today: ‘Charges Seen as Unlikely for Lawyers Over Interrogations.\u2019 Now, we\u2019re supposed to cheer. But you don\u2019t even know the half of it. If you know the details, you still don\u2019t know the half of this. ‘An internal Justice Department inquiry–‘ read Eric Holder, ‘–into the conduct of Bush administration lawyers who wrote secret memorandums authorizing brutal interrogations has concluded that the authors committed serious lapses of judgment but should not be criminally prosecuted, according to government officials briefed on a draft of the findings. <\/p>\n

‘The report by the Office of Professional Responsibility, an internal ethics unit within the Justice Department, is also likely to ask state bar associations to consider possible disciplinary action, which could include reprimands or even disbarment, for some of the lawyers involved in writing the legal opinions, the officials said.\u2019 We\u2019re talking here about John Yoo, Jay Bybee and Steven Bradbury. So we\u2019re supposed to go, ‘Oh, good, they\u2019re not going to prosecute,\u2019 but they are seeking nevertheless to destroy the livelihoods of these lawyers by asking the state bar associations where these guys live to disbar them, but you still don\u2019t know the half of it. Do you know the name John Demjanjuk? Some people pronounce it John Demjanjuk. John Demjanjuk is 89 years old. He lives in Cleveland. He is accused of being a Nazi concentration camp guard, Ivan the Terrible. He was convicted in Israel, they threw the conviction out. He\u2019s been charged with being at Sobibor, Treblinka, a couple places. He\u2019s been living in Cleveland ever since the Israeli Supreme Court threw out the conviction. <\/p>\n

He has been requested to be extradited by Germany, to be tried in Germany for the same crime. His objection — now, follow me on this — his lawyers, Demjanjuk\u2019s lawyers are saying to the Justice Department, (paraphrasing) ‘You cannot extradite John Demjanjuk to Germany, you cannot do it because he will be tortured.\u2019 Eric Holder and the Justice Department have said to Germany and Demjanjuk, ‘Demjanjuk, you\u2019re wrong, because Germany is going to use the same techniques on you that were proposed by Bybee and Yoo and Bradbury to interrogate Al-Qaeda terrorists.\u2019 In other words, the Justice Department is denying Demjanjuk\u2019s requests to not be extradited because he will not be tortured, while saying that he will not be tortured, they are advocating that these three Bush lawyers be disbarred because they engaged in torture. This is despicable. This is not about Demjanjuk. I\u2019m not arguing whether Demjanjuk is innocent or guilty, it doesn\u2019t matter to me. But Demjanjuk\u2019s argument is he shouldn\u2019t be extradited because he\u2019s going to be tortured. Our Justice Department says, no, it\u2019s not torture what they\u2019re going to do to you. They\u2019re going to follow the same guidelines written by Bush lawyers for detainees at Guantanamo Bay. <\/p>\n

So that\u2019s not torture. Yet the Justice Department, Eric Holder, says those three guys, Yoo, Bradbury and Bybee, did write memos advocating and defining torture, and they want \u2019em punished for it. Now, you\u2019re hearing me say this, it makes no sense. Rush, it makes no sense! I know it makes no sense. It makes no sense if you\u2019re gonna apply logic here. You\u2019ve got to think in terms of authoritarian tyrants to understand it. One more time. John Demjanjuk, Germany wants to try him for war crimes in World War II at concentration camps. Demjanjuk\u2019s lawyers say to the Justice Department, ‘Please don\u2019t extradite him, he\u2019s going to be tortured there.\u2019 Our Justice Department says to Demjanjuk\u2019s lawyers, ‘No, he won\u2019t be tortured, they\u2019re just going to use the same procedures outlined by Jay Bybee, John Yoo and Bradbury that we used on Al-Qaeda prisons at Guantanamo Bay.\u2019 They say that on Monday. Then on Wednesday they release a story to the New York Times saying that Bybee, Yoo and Bradbury must be disbarred because they wrote memos advocating brutal interrogation techniques. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, let me be clear about something here regarding the situation with the extradition of John Demjanjuk and this whole Eric Holder business. On one day, certain kinds of torture are okay; certain days, they\u2019re not. I didn\u2019t mean to mislead and say that the Germans want to use the same tactics on Demjanjuk that they used on Al-Qaeda detainees. I don\u2019t want you to think that the Germans are going to waterboard Demjanjuk. What the Department of Justice is saying is that regardless what tactics the Germans may use, even if the Germans cause Demjanjuk to feel severe pain and suffering, this can\u2019t be torture because the Germans don\u2019t intend to torture Demjanjuk. That is, you can\u2019t have torture unless there\u2019s an evil motive to torture, and the Germans are saying, ‘We\u2019re not going to torture him,\u2019 which is an adoption of the reasoning from John Yoo and Bybee. <\/p>\n

Where they said the CIA should not torture Al-Qaeda guys, unless they had a motive to cause them severe pain and suffering. If they didn\u2019t have this motivate it would be a complete defense to any claim of torture. So even if you inflict severe pain and suffering on someone, which is the statutory definition of torture. There is no ‘torture\u2019 unless the government agent is deliberately trying to inflict torture. And that was the position in the memos from John Yoo and Bybee, and it\u2019s now the Obama DoJ\u2019s position. Now, their memo said we didn\u2019t torture these guys. Our intention was not to torture them. Here, we\u2019ve got Andy McCarthy who has done some great research work on this. He\u2019s on the air to explain this and clarify this, \u2019cause I did not mean to say that the Germans are going to waterboard Demjanjuk. Hey, Andy. Explain this to people in a way they can understand.<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: Sure, Rush. The whole idea behind the Yoo-Bybee memos from 2002 was to avoid torture. The idea was to avoid having a situation where severe pain and suffering was inflicted on these guys, and what Yoo and Bybee point out in the memo when they discuss the state of mind that you have to have for a torture offense is that when Congress passed this torture statute and when the United States ratified the torture treaty, what they tried to do was make it a very narrow crime. And in doing that what they said was, ‘You can\u2019t have torture unless you specifically intend to commit the crime of torture,\u2019 which means you specifically intend to inflict on somebody severe pain and suffering.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, did they write that to give anybody cover who was engaged in these interrogations?<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: Well, that\u2019s the allegation from the left. My view is they wrote it because they were asked, ‘What is the legal outline, the legal contours of torture?\u2019 and be sure he couldn\u2019t outline what the legal contours of torture are without saying that. And I think there\u2019s a lot of support for that view in the fact that only a year ago, the Third Circuit court of appeals — which obviously was not to create cover for the CIA — in a case that involved an allegation of violation of torture under the torture treaty, the Third Circuit court of appeals came up with the same analysis that Yoo and Bybee came up with. They said that even if by sending this fellow who brought the suit back to his home country, and even if he had severe pain and suffering and even died from the fact that he couldn\u2019t get correct medical treatment in the place where he was going to be sent, that wouldn\u2019t be torture because the government didn\u2019t intend for him to feel severe pain and suffering. That wasn\u2019t the point of what the extradition was.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. So where we are here is that in terms of extraditing Demjanjuk, he\u2019s subjecting because the Germans going to torture him, our DOJ is saying, ‘No, they don\u2019t intend to torture him so they\u2019re not going to torture him.\u2019 They\u2019re using the same reasoning that they\u2019re rejecting in the Yoo-Bybee memos?<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: Exactly right. And basically what they\u2019re saying is even if Demjanjuk does inadvertently suffer severe pain and suffering from however he\u2019s treated by the Germans, our government is satisfied that that wouldn\u2019t be torture. Even if he\u2019s in exactly the pain he\u2019d be in if they were trying to torture him, as long as they don\u2019t intend to do it. When Yoo and Bybee said that, the left went crazy and said, ‘They\u2019re trying to green light torture,\u2019 but yet this is exactly the position the Obama administration has taken only about ten days ago.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So now we have the story in the New York Times saying that (paraphrased), ‘Ah, we\u2019ve looked at this. The DOJ has looked at this. We really don\u2019t think we ought to prosecute or investigate Bybee and Bradbury and John Yoo,\u2019 but they really would encourage state bar associations where they practice to disbar them because we still want to ruin their livelihood.<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: Well, that certainly looks like the way it\u2019s going. No one\u2019s actually seen what this direct report says, and obviously, according to these reports, there\u2019s a lot going on behind the scenes to try to affect the outcome here. But you do have to worry that all of this blather about criminal prosecutions under circumstances where there\u2019s obviously no torture case here legally, could be a big feint in order to make them look magnanimous if all they do is refer these guys for bar discipline. And yet it would destroy these guys\u2019 lives professionally.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, what are the odds that the bars in these states would follow through on this and issue any discipline? I mean, are they afraid of the DOJ as well? Is everybody afraid of Washington now to the point that cover comes out of Washington in terms of a suggestion or request is considered a demand?<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: I think, Rush, that that\u2019s something to be profoundly worried about, if they can manipulate the Justice Department process in this direction. You know, the bar associations tend to be left of center to begin with.<\/p>\n

RUSH: This, if I might remind people about last week, this is specifically why you wrote the letter to the Attorney General Eric Holder declining the invitation to participate in some bipartisan task force going forward, right? Because, among many other reasons, one of the reasons was your opinion is going to disagree with theirs and you don\u2019t want to be prosecuted down the road because you think they already had their process written, and inviting you and others that may not agree with them was just a show?<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: Yeah, especially given that the attorney general last week in a speech in Germany basically said that the position I hold — which is that people should be held under the laws of war in Guantanamo Bay until the end of hostilities — is a violation of the rule of law. So I\u2019m already on notice that he thinks my opinion is a law violation. So for me to go into a meeting as a lawyer and advise the Justice Department to do something that he already has decided is against the law would imperil me just the way that these Bush administration lawyers have been basically put in the crosshairs by giving a good-faith piece of advice about what they think we should do on these national security matters.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019m talking with Andrew McCarthy, who is a writer-editor at National Review and National Review Online and a former prosecutor for the US attorney\u2019s office — Southern District of New York, which is Manhattan — and Andy led the prosecution team that convicted the blind sheik, Omar Abdel Rahman. For people just turning in, I want them to know the voice that they were listening to. So Andy, as a lawyer and as somebody who\u2019s worked in the Justice Department, you\u2019re very much aware of it power US attorneys offices have: the attorney general, the DOJ. You look at these people from Holder down and the way that they\u2019re conducting business, what are your fears? This just seems like the tip of the iceberg here with the dichotomy or the feint, if you will, with the way Demjanjuk might be treated. And yet we want to destroy the lives of American lawyers who authored the very same belief system that they\u2019re going to use to extradite Demjanjuk. What else is going on that people may not know about?<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: Well, my biggest fear, Rush, is that we\u2019re having a repeat of what we saw in the 1990s, particularly with the ‘wall\u2019 regulations, which were a set of internal Justice Department guidelines that prevented the national security side of the FBI\u2019s house from communicating with criminal investigators and prosecutors like me. Those regulations created an ethos, a philosophy within the government that there were things that were more important than the national security of the United States, and making sure the left hand knew what the right hand was doing so that we could figure out what the threats were against us. And the feeling that it put in people throughout the government was that if you tried to do your job — if you tried to push the envelope, if you tried to protect the American people, if you tried to go the extra mile to figure out what the threats against us were — that could be professionally ruinous for you. And we saw where that led on 9\/11. I don\u2019t, frankly, think it should have taken until 9\/11 to figure it out because we were attacked repeatedly from 1993 going forward. And I think in terms of… You know, look. What difference does it make to somebody like me or to John Yoo or to Bybee? You know, you can ruin one lawyer or three lawyers or however many lawyers. The important thing to those of us who care about the country is, we need to have the government, as we\u2019ve seen, given the threat that we\u2019re up against, moving heaven and earth to figure out what the threats are against us, to figure out where the next place we might get hit is.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Excuse me. I get the distinct impression this administration does not think of that threat as serious at all.<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: Well, they rhetorically suggest that it\u2019s serious but certainly if you look at what they\u2019re doing compared to what they\u2019re saying, I have to agree that you\u2019re right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I don\u2019t know how you… That\u2019s the whole point with Obama. He says all these wonderful things, like we\u2019re going to have a chance to track every dollar of the stimulus bill, at Recovery.org. Then we learn today that the site\u2019s not going to have any worthy data until next year, and it\u2019s not even going to have to it then. It\u2019s all a joke! While he talks about protecting the country and so forth, he\u2019s making deals with Hamas, selling Israel out. He\u2019s got John Kerry out saying to Iran, ‘Hey, look, we\u2019re going to change our policy on regime change. We\u2019ll accept you; we\u2019ll tolerate you — if you guys just get rid and suspend your nuclear program.\u2019 These are fools. They have to know that Ahmadinejad, the Iranians, are not going to accept this, even if they said they would.<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: Well, you make a great point, and you raised before the letter that I sent last week. Another reason that I didn\u2019t want to go to this confab on Monday was because I thought essentially it\u2019s a charade. It\u2019s sort of the difference between what they\u2019re doing and what they\u2019re saying that you\u2019ve just outlined. They\u2019re contending, or they\u2019re telling people, that they\u2019re studying carefully all the issues about detainees. And yet what we\u2019re finding is that they\u2019re actually releasing detainees. About four weeks ago they released a guy outright named Binyam Mohamed who was sent back to England. He\u2019s the collaborator with Jose Padilla, the guy that was the so-called dirty bomber. He was actually planning mass murder attacks in American cities. He was held as an enemy combatant for about six years by the Bush administration. The Obama administration has just released him to England. So for all this arguing about, you know, ‘Should we do it in the criminal justice system or should we do it in the military system?\u2019 You could argue that all day long but I don\u2019t think anybody thought we should be releasing these guys, and yet that\u2019s what they did with him and it\u2019s what they\u2019re planning to go with these guys, the Uighurs, who they\u2019re actually talking about releasing into the United States.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, I got this story today — and I\u2019ve got a couple minutes here and I have to go — but it\u2019s being reported at Politico that Harry Reid is demanding specifics on where the prisoners will go and what\u2019s going to be done with them. So this story makes it seem like Harry Reid is saying to Obama, ‘Where exactly are these yahoos going to be placed?\u2019 Is there some resistance in Congress to this?<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: I think right now there\u2019s building resistance. Particularly in the House, I think Representative [Pete] Hoekstra (R-MI) and Frank Wolf (R-VA) have been pushing hard on this. I expect that other people are going to be pushing hard on it as well. It\u2019s important that people know, Rush, that we actually passed some law in 2005 that makes it illegal to bring aliens into the United States if they\u2019ve had terror training or been affiliated with a terrorist organization. The Uighurs are excludable on both grounds.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Eh, that\u2019s a Bush law. It was unjust and immoral. <\/p>\n

McCARTHY: (laughs)<\/p>\n

RUSH: We\u2019re not going to pay any attention to it.<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Andy, I gotta run. I appreciate your calling. Thanks.<\/p>\n

McCARTHY: My pleasure, Rush. Thanks.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Andrew McCarthy. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: In Landaff, New Hampshire, this is Andrew. Great to have you, sir, thank you for waiting.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thank you. Mega dittos.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Attorney Bybee and Attorney Yoo should not be prosecuted, disbarred or reprimanded in any way. Their client, the United States of America, for her citizens, asked their lawyers to define torture: How close to the line can you get without going over and violating the law? Just like umpires, just like in football referees define what is out of bounds, what is foul. The line is intent. The USA asked, ‘Where is the line?\u2019 and they decided the line is intent. And intent matters in the law very much. The difference between negligent homicide, for example, manslaughter, and murder in the first degree, is intent. Without intent, it\u2019s negligent homicide. With intent to do something else but causing a death, it may be manslaughter. And premeditation makes it capital murder, murder in the first degree.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, so what you\u2019re saying here is that the John Yoo and the Bybee memos had no intent to torture. When they put together the procedure, there was no intent to torture anybody here, and therefore it can\u2019t be said that they set out to torture? Is that your point, that they\u2019re right?<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s correct. Exactly correct. Because just like —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. Now, here\u2019s what you have to understand, though. Now, while you and I agree on that, you also have to add the fact that Eric Holder and the Department of Justice agree to it. However, they don\u2019t agree to it when applied to the American lawyers. They only agree with that concept when John Demjanjuk faces extradition to Germany. His lawyers say, ‘You can\u2019t send him to Germany! He\u2019s going to be tortured.\u2019 They resort to the same reasoning that Bybee and John Yoo used in their memos. ‘No, the Germans aren\u2019t going to torture, because they don\u2019t intend to torture Demjanjuk\u2019 — or Demjanjuk. I\u2019ve heard it pronounced both ways.<\/p>\n

CALLER: When you… I beg your pardon. We are used to them changing the rules, though, for wanting to aid their side. For example, the administration officials who blamed their computer or somebody else for their tax returns being wrong. What were they doing? They were indicating their intent: ‘I did not meeeeean to not pay my taxes. Please blame something else. Please treat me differently.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right. That was Geithner. (paraphrased) ‘TurboTax screwed up! I didn\u2019t intend to cheat the government.\u2019 <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, see?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Which, of course, is patently false because he did it over a number of years.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes. He\u2019s not in any way being reprimanded yet they have the audacity to try to go after these attorneys. These attorneys accurately described the crime. To torture you must want to and you must intend to and then you must do. You cannot accidentally torture somebody, and you cannot and should not be punished for advising your client that that\u2019s where the line is, that if you hit the ball this far…<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a minute. You\u2019re talking about within the bounds of the law. This administration is not about that. This is about pure totalitarian politics.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But your program is about the law, and America should be about the law.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I agree! I agree here. But I\u2019m saying this is why nobody cares. The New York Times story does not detail any of this. All the New York Times story says is, ‘Okay. They\u2019re not going to be prosecuted, Obama administration magnanimous. They\u2019re just going to recommend that maybe state bars disbar these guys or reprimand them.\u2019 They still want to destroy \u2019em! They just want it done somewhere else other than the DoJ.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And, and, by doing it that way, Rush, they get a lower threshold for evidence. Because if they were going to criminally prosecute, they\u2019d have to approve beyond a reasonable doubt that these attorneys did something wrong. But if they take it to the civil level and for just disbarment, the level of scrutiny can be much lower. They can just say, ‘Was it merely 51% instead of beyond a reasonable doubt?\u2019 <\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Was the propensity of the evidence a little lower, and therefore we can get the equivalent of a conviction. You\u2019re not making any money in jail and you\u2019re not making any money without your law license.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s exactly right. That\u2019s exactly right. Well, I\u2019m glad you called and clarified that.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, thank you very much, Rush, for all you do.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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