{"id":32017,"date":"2011-05-19T02:35:27","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T02:35:27","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T02:35:27","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T02:35:27","slug":"eib_conversation_rush_and_levin_talk_about_liberty_and_tyranny","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/eib_conversation_rush_and_levin_talk_about_liberty_and_tyranny\/","title":{"rendered":"EIB Conversation: Rush and Levin Talk About &#8220;Liberty and Tyranny&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<section>\n<p>RUSH: We welcome to the EIB Network, Mark Levin, who is &#8212; full disclosure here &#8212; a good friend, one of my best; and the author of the just-released and already best seller, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1416562850?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoffiwebs0d-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1416562850\">Liberty and Tyranny: a Conservative Manifesto<\/a>. Hello, sir, and welcome to our big and vast network.<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: You\u2019re not kiddin\u2019. How are you, brother?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I\u2019m pretty good. Never better. I\u2019m in a foul mood the last couple days, but nothing to do with you.<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Cheer up! Cheer up!<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I\u2019m trying. I\u2019m trying. Look, I don\u2019t want to overdo this, but as I said yesterday, people throughout my whole career have said, &#8216;What can I read to learn what you know? Where can I go to find the intellectual truths of conservatism?\u2019 and I\u2019ve always had a book list that I give them and I\u2019ve always had a magazine list and so forth. Your book is now a one-stop shop. Your book&#8230; This is the book, not only to read for someone to read themselves, but to give to people while it is&#8230; Well, not too technical. And it\u2019s got it\u2019s intellectual parts, but it is readable, understandable, inspiring. It\u2019s a page-turner, which is difficult for a book like this to be.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1416562850?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoffiwebs0d-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1416562850\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.89380.ImageFile_579144cbb088d.jpg\" width=\"299\" height=\"481\" class=\"alignright\"\/><\/a>LEVIN: Well, you know, as I was writing it, we talk frequently, you know, on the weekends I was there and you\u2019d send me an instant message, &#8216;F-Lee, what are you doing?\u2019 &#8216;I\u2019m writing.\u2019 You know, or, &#8216;What are you doing? It\u2019s two in the morning.\u2019 &#8216;I\u2019m writing,\u2019 because, you know, I have full-time jobs and this is the only time I could do and that\u2019s part of the reason it took so long.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Now, you weren\u2019t just writing. <\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Well, I was thinking.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: There\u2019s a notes section. You were researching.<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: You could have written a book that just regurgitates what\u2019s in your heart and what\u2019s in your mind, but you have backed it up here with the thoughts of the Founders, with empirical evidence and proof of what\u2019s in your heart and what\u2019s in your mind, and that\u2019s the work. I mean, anybody can tell anybody what they think. To go out and get backup for it is what took the time. And full disclosure, as I said yesterday: you worked on this for a year and a half. There were times I know that it was arduous, but all the hard work has paid off. Believe me. Here\u2019s how I want to start with you on this.<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Yes, sir.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I &#8212; even now at age 58 &#8212; still consider myself naive, \u2019cause throughout my childhood and my adult life, I just accepted that everybody living in America loved our country and appreciated the whole concept of America and understood it: freedom, liberty, American exceptionalism. My opinion of this wasn\u2019t due to nationalism. It wasn\u2019t because, you know, I put a pin on my lapel or \u2019cause I was born here or any of that. It was rooted in the way that I was raised, and then in the things that I learned, my appreciation for this country and what it is, how unique and rare it is in the whole history of human civilization. So I still have lots of difficulty today intellectually understanding &#8212; I get it emotionally, but I have difficulty intellectually understanding &#8212; people natively born in this country who hate it, who want to destroy it, who want to remake it in an image that will cause it to not be what it has always been, which is the single greatest outpost and location for prosperity and security the world has ever seen. Can you help me to understand why there are people who hate this country and want to tear it down?<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: The key is to understand that there are people who are of that mind-set &#8212; and if we don\u2019t understand it, and we just think this is an academic debate or they\u2019re just slightly liberal or what have you, we\u2019re going to be devoured by it. We need to understand that these people do not share our view of liberty and individuality. They reject the Declaration of Independence, which talks about unalienable rights.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Who are these people?<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: These people are what I call the statists. They are not liberals because liberal in the classical sense is the opposite of authoritarian, and I refuse to allow them to steal the language and use the language to attack us. You even hear Obama talking about &#8216;investments.\u2019 These aren\u2019t investments. It\u2019s nationalizing the private sector. It\u2019s massively increasing taxes to confiscatory levels. We have to deny them the distortion of the language and speak the truth &#8212; and, look, here\u2019s the problem. They have abandoned the principles of the founding. Conservatism represents the founding principles. That\u2019s who we are. We embrace the Declaration of Independence. We revere the Constitution of the United States. They try to evade the Constitution and undermine it and construct something that\u2019s expedient, that advances their political agenda, which we cringe at. We need to understand who these people are, but, frankly, I started writing this book because we need to understand who we are, that we need to have confidence. Because we have some people teaching the abandonment of conservatism or trying to rewrite conservatism or trying to create some weird hybrid, and I\u2019d just as soon stick with Edmund Burke and Hamilton and Jefferson and Madison because I happen to think they\u2019re smarter than these people.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, I\u2019m going to get into the internecine conflicts in the Republican Party, the conservative movement in due course in our discussion here. But what I gather from what you\u2019re saying is, the motivations of these people really aren\u2019t necessary, all we have to do and understand is that we gotta beat them.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.4584.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" class=\"alignright\"\/>LEVIN: Well, we needed to understand that their motivations are not good, that they\u2019re destructive. I talk about the civil society, as have others in the past. The civil society is what we call organized liberty or the social compact, and there are various elements to it, and this is the heart of conservatism. You know, that man has a spirit, that each man and woman is unique, that we have duty to promote our unalienable rights and to protect them, that we have a duty to our families and ourselves, to take care of ourselves, to contribute to charity, that we have a duty to support a just and righteous law that is stable and predictable. And I go into some of these things and what the statist does is, they believe in human experimentation. I\u2019m not talking about Mengele here, I\u2019m talking about society and turning it on its head, and this is why Edmund Burke was so crucial. <\/p>\n<p>He explained the difference between change is reform, which is what we conservatives believe in, reform that promotes and preserves the civil society, and change is radical innovation that destroys the civil society, that destroys the culture. And this is what we are fighting off. So people say we always say no. You\u2019re damn right we say no to destroying this society! But we have a lot of yeses to say, too, about liberty and free enterprise and all the other things that are one linked to the other &#8212; and if I might make a footnote, too. I keep hearing, &#8216;Well, there\u2019s the social conservatives, the free market conservatives, and the national security conservatives.\u2019 No, there are not. In a civil society you must have a moral order. Right versus wrong, good versus evil, just versus unjust, and means versus ends. They\u2019re not the same thing, and when we talk about moral order, you must have a moral order to have a rule of law, for the free market to work, to advance national security. There are not three branches to conservatism; there is Conservatism.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: And it doesn\u2019t need to be refined or reformed. It doesn\u2019t need to be remade or rebuilt.<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Well, why would we surrender our core principles that have served this nation so well, that have served humanity so well? I mean, Americans have contributed so enormous to mankind. Why would we surrender those principles to these politicians who are only in office on a temporary basis, who are advancing their own political careers and their fairly radical agenda? Why would we make peace with people, make peace with such philosophy? Why wouldn\u2019t we take our case &#8212; be confident in our case and take it &#8212; to the American people? We can link it to current events, we can promote policies through it, but we can\u2019t promote policies that are not based on sound philosophy.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: You mention a lot about the founding and you quote John Adams frequently in the book. One of the quotes that I like from John Adams &#8212; and I\u2019m paraphrasing this, but &#8212; he said that the Founders had written the Constitution for a religious and a moral people, that the document wouldn\u2019t work for people outside those realms. So is it safe to say that those who oppose the Constitution are afraid of it, they don\u2019t like the concept of morality, they don\u2019t like the concept of a natural order of things, natural law, this kind of thing?<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: This is a great point. First of all, let\u2019s go to the Declaration first. The Founding Fathers created a society, and that\u2019s what they created in the Declaration of Independence, founded on natural law, divine providence, God-given natural law, alien rights. The only thing that makes life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness unalienable is the belief in a Creator, not the belief in man or some government. Man and government can\u2019t, in the end, confer these rights or legitimately deny them. This is a huge difference we have with the statists, whether the modern statists or past statists. They believe rights are something to be rationed. If you agree with them, they give you rights. If you don\u2019t agree with them, they take rights away. They believe that they\u2019re all-powerful. We don\u2019t. We believe they\u2019re earthly. <\/p>\n<p>This is a huge difference between us and the statists. When you watch Obama doing his press conferences or Pelosi, these people sound like they\u2019re God! I mean, they think they\u2019re God. &#8216;We\u2019re going to do this,\u2019 and they also exploit something. Man is imperfect. Every religion will tell you that man is imperfect. So man\u2019s institutions aren\u2019t perfect, and what the statist does is he exploits that. He tries to create this phony notion of a utopian state where, if you\u2019ll surrender your will, surrender your liberty, surrender your property &#8212; more and more of it over time, to them &#8212; they will make the impossible possible, the unequal equal. And what they really will do is destroy your humanity, because they\u2019re not about humanity; they\u2019re about government. And that\u2019s why we need to call them statists.<\/p>\n<p><BR\/>RUSH: Now, okay, let\u2019s talk. But the statists and their voters. I\u2019ve always thought they\u2019re two different people. You\u2019ve got the Obamas and the Pelosis, the Barney Franks, all the Washington statist elite, if you will &#8212; and the statehouse, all the states, statist elites. But let\u2019s look at their voters. How many of their voters &#8212; how many of the people who are fully enraged and angry on their fringe blogs, how many of them &#8212; are actually of the same belief that the leaders of this statism are, in belief of it, or how many are just sheep? And therefore if they\u2019re sheep &#8212; if they\u2019re not as committed and they don\u2019t understand, really, what they\u2019re voting for and what it leads to &#8212; are they salvageable?<\/line><BR\/> <\/line><BR\/> LEVIN: You know, many of them are what I call malcontents. They\u2019re victims. They think they are. They always have agreements. They don\u2019t look inside. They don\u2019t analyze their own lives. I write about this, too. They don\u2019t take responsibility for their own situations. They don\u2019t know how because they refuse to look beyond their own situations. They don\u2019t know how to prosper in the freest, most generous, most benevolent society ever established on the face of the earth. And so they feel the rest of us shouldn\u2019t survive or can\u2019t survive in a similar society. They\u2019re the malcontents. They\u2019re what I call the drones, what de Tocqueville referred to as &#8212; my phrase &#8212; these drone-like characteristics where more and more of them surrender their independence, their human sensibilities to the state. They want to be told what to do. And then there\u2019s the elitist side of this.<\/line><BR\/> <\/line><BR\/> It\u2019s academia where you have professors and teachers who get a sinecure from the government, and what are they doing? Well, not everyone. I\u2019m talking about the rule, not the exception. They are promoting this quiet counterrevolution in the classroom against the civil society, against our country, same thing with Hollywood, here you have people who luxuriate in the most magnificent society on the face of earth. They have fame; they have fortune. Nobody bothers them. They can do whatever they want, say whatever they want, and yet they act as if they\u2019re revolutionaries, when in fact they\u2019re not. And they have enormous influence in the political process because of their wealth and their ability to contribute and affect the media. Are they salvageable? Well, we won\u2019t know if we don\u2019t try our way. If we keep doing these half measures and create clutter and doubting ourselves rather than have confidence and articulate our positions and do it with our friends and neighbors and in our neighborhoods, well, we\u2019ll never know if we can reach these people.<\/line><BR\/> <\/line><BR\/> RUSH: So it makes no sense to you, in a political sense, let\u2019s say the Republican Party is the home of conservatism, just theoretically or hypothetically for a moment. It makes no sense to you to accept publicly some of their premises so as to attract them and then when we get them, start to work on them to change their minds?<\/line><BR\/> <\/line><BR\/> LEVIN: No. What we need to do is challenge the language and the content of what the statist does. And the statist is extremely manipulative, and they will deceive. You can see they\u2019re politicians. They deceive, and they want to buy votes, they\u2019ll change their positions on a dime because, really, they march at a relatively standard pace. Right now they\u2019re marching faster than in the past. But they\u2019re incremental and persistent and they have their goals in mind. And too often we conservatives are fighting with each other, over, &#8216;Well, should we do this? Should we do that?\u2019 In other words, we\u2019re tweaking on the edges. We\u2019re debating over nonsense. We\u2019re allowing people who claim to be conservative to demoralize conservatives. <\/line><BR\/> <\/line><BR\/> We have nothing to be demoralized about. Let me tell you something. You said it a hundred thousand times. This is the greatest nation on the face of earth, and we cheerlead for it, and they attack it. We love this society. We love the Declaration. We love the Constitution. We love what it\u2019s brought forth. We love the capitalist system with its imperfections. Of course it has imperfections, and that\u2019s the capitalist system itself, deals with that. The other side wakes up in the morning on the attack. They reject the Constitution and evade it day in and day out. They reject the founding principles and evade them day in and day out. They want to recreate our society, and that is what we\u2019re up against.<\/line><BR\/> <\/line><BR\/> RUSH: Mark Levin, the author of Liberty and Tyranny, is our guest here, and we will continue our discussion right after this obscene profit time-out here on the EIB Network.<\/line><\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: We are back with Mark Levin, who, by the way, is the host, as many of you know, of his own radio talk show, syndicated nationally. We have the same flagship station, WABC AM 77 in New York. Mark, you\u2019ll get a kick out of this, I checked my e-mail during the break and I just found this note. Subject line: &#8221;Interview awesome.\u2019 I was stopped at a stoplight when it began, I saw a friend who I know to be conservative, I rolled down the window and I yelled at her, I said, &#8216;Turn on the radio.\u2019 She said, &#8216;I already am.\u2019 I just ordered four copies of Levin\u2019s book.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Oh, wow. That\u2019s terrific.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, this is a best-seller. You know, a lot of people are going to credit the wrong things for the success of this book, such as its publicity. You can\u2019t get where you\u2019re going to get without publicity here, but it\u2019s the book itself. There is a hunger for this in a concise way. Folks, this is not a large book, it\u2019s 256 pages, but it\u2019s not large. It\u2019s a book that\u2019s jam-packed. This has the answer for everything you\u2019ve asked yourself about yourself, and why you believe what you believe, and it also has at the end &#8212; we\u2019ll talk about this when we get closer to it &#8212; a modicum of steps that people can take. Now, Mark, I\u2019m serious about this question. I happened to just coincidentally run across Barry Goldwater\u2019s book The Conscience of a Conservative.<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I read it, parts of it, and of course everything in it, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know. And then I recall that we had Ronald Reagan for two terms, landslide majorities, and then I recall that we elected the House of Representatives, Republican control, 1994, largely on a conservative Contract with America. Here\u2019s Goldwater\u2019s book, here\u2019s your book, here\u2019s all of these real life experiences &#8212; Reagan. Why do we have to keep re-teaching this? Why is it that people who read this stuff 30 years ago, 40 years ago, vote for it 20 years ago, can be so easily turned against it?<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Because tyranny is persistent. Tyranny has existed since the beginning of man. Liberty takes people to be resolute, it takes some thinking, it takes some proper education and understanding, and it takes competence. Tyranny takes brute force and emotion and propaganda, and so it is we who have to be resolute.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: If freedom is the natural yearning of the human spirit as endowed by Our Creator, as you said earlier, why does it take work?<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Because tyranny is something &#8212; you know, not everybody wants to promote liberty for everybody. I want to read you the back, and this will answer it, Abraham Lincoln\u2019s quote on the back of the cover of the book.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Okay, can you do it in one minute? <\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: I can do it in one minute. I found this right after I started the book. &#8216;We all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing. With some, the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself, and the product of his labor; while with others, the same word many mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the product of other men\u2019s labor. Here are two, not only different, but incompatible things, called by the same name &#8212; liberty. And it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by two different and incompatible names &#8212; liberty and tyranny.\u2019 The slave owner thought he was promoting liberty, theoretically, but he wasn\u2019t. He was a tyrant. And let me tell you something, those people who want to enslave us today by small steps and a thousand different regulations and taxes, they\u2019re following the root of a soft tyranny. That\u2019s what de Tocqueville called it and de Tocqueville was right.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Mark Levin is with us, and we\u2019ve gotta take another EIB obscene profit time-out here in mere seconds, but again the title of the book is Liberty and Tyranny, and we\u2019ve got much more to discuss here, we\u2019ll do it after this brief time-out. Sit tight. Back before you know it.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: We\u2019re back with our remaining moments with Mark Levin, the author of the book, Liberty and Tyranny. And, if the bookstore is sold out, fear not, there are more being printed. The book is exceeding all expectations except mine. <\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: (chuckles)<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Quick question here. You were just talking. You were just quoting Lincoln on the word liberty and how it can be defined in a bunch of different ways. Let\u2019s relate this to something happening right before our very eyes at this very moment. Liberals today, from the Obama administration on down, are easily and successfully confusing liberty with greed and greediness. Libs think that men exchanging goods and services freely for greed-on market prices, is greed &#8212; and it is not. It is liberty. In fact, it is the liberals, the left &#8212; the statists, as you call them &#8212; who are practicing greed today, printing their own money, bankrupting the country, spending other people\u2019s money for their causes. So how do we arrive at this moment where the exercise of market-economic liberty is considered greed?<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Well, first of all, people need to understand that the greed comes from government. The government wants to take 60%, 70% of what you earn at all levels of government, and it hasn\u2019t earned a thing. So here\u2019s the way we need to understand it. Labor. Labor is the time you spend working, whether it\u2019s an intellectual pursuit or a hands-on type pursuit. You have a finite amount of time on earth. So this is precious time. This is your liberty, your time that you\u2019re spending to earn this income. So when somebody says that you\u2019ve earned too much after working as you have using all your abilities to do what you do, to create a comfortable living for yourself, and somebody in the government tells you, &#8216;Well, that\u2019s not good enough\u2019 &#8212; and they want to take your money not for the legitimate purposes of government, as stated in the Constitution, but to redistribute wealth or some other outrageous Marxist-type theory, socialist-type theory &#8212; they are stealing literally time out of your life, your liberty that you spent earning this money, earning this private property legitimately. We need to explain that the free market is the most transformative of economic systems, and it fosters creativity and inventiveness. It produces all these industries and products and services that the statist wants to control and tax. The statist creates nothing. The food Obama has was created by capitalism. The suit that he wears when he does these press conferences, he can thank capitalism, not a single bureaucrat. The car that he drives or that\u2019s driven for him &#8212; the helicopter, the jet he takes &#8212; all of it is a creation of capitalism.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: The teleprompter.<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: No government bureaucrat and no politician. You know, people need to look around, because liberty permeates. It\u2019s so broad, it\u2019s so wide that when you\u2019re born into it, a lot of times you don\u2019t recognize it and you think it\u2019s going to be here forever. Aspects of it will, but it\u2019s going to be severely curtailed if those who do not respect liberty and do not respect private property rights and do not respect the labor that somebody applies to a skill or whatever and earns his own money, that liberty is going to be severely diminished. Liberty is precious, and that is what we want to defend.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Couple more things before our time &#8216;perspires.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: The internecine battles in the conservative movement now for primacy, supremacy, leadership, and so forth, as I look at this, I see it as a problem we first have to deal with before we even take on the statists, because we\u2019ve got several on our side who are siding with the statists, at least on the basis of accepting some of their premises and then affecting them on the margins, on the corner, and all of these people love to call themselves moderates. Now, Mark, the one thing about this is you\u2019ll never find, as I\u2019ve said, are books in the library, &#8216;Great Moderates in American History.\u2019 And one of the reasons is, they\u2019re not passionate. They are not passionate in beliefs, and they do not advance ideas. The only time these moderate so-called conservatives &#8212; and we don\u2019t need to mention names here \u2019cause it\u2019s not necessary. Everybody knows who they are. The most passionate they get is when attacking the traditional conservatives that you have described today and in your book. Where\u2019s this going?<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: The truth is, the truth is, they\u2019re largely irrelevant. Most of the people don\u2019t know who they are. They write in liberal publications. They write for themselves; they speak to themselves. They have not had an impact. But they\u2019re not only abandoning the only principles by which our society can exist as free and secure and prosperous, but they\u2019re urging others to abandon them, too. So to the extent that people listen to them &#8212; or, frankly, that we bring them up &#8212; they are demoralizing and petty at a time when we must understand and embrace conservatism. What I try to do in this book, when I took on the task of writing it, is, &#8216;I don\u2019t want a superficial talking point book.\u2019 I started from the beginning. I went back to some of the great classics and philosophers, and I questioned myself. &#8216;Why am I conservative? Why do I believe these things? Who are we? Why does the statist not believe what we believe? Why is he so cynical and destructive of our society, and what can we do about it?\u2019 So I find these folks that want to surrender or abandon our principles or come up with some weird hybrids and so forth, and I find them to be clutter, for the most part, and frankly irrelevant to the grassroots.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: All right, the last chapter, the epilogue, is entitled, &#8216;A Conservative Manifesto.\u2019 I\u2019m going to ask you what I always get when explaining these things to people, &#8216;Okay, what can I do as an average citizen? Beyond vote, what can I do?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: The first thing you can do, the question I always get is, &#8216;What can we do?\u2019 The first thing you can do is stop saying &#8216;we\u2019 and say &#8216;I.\u2019 What you can say is a hell of a lot. If you\u2019re a grandparent talk to your grandchildren, if you\u2019re a parent, talk to your children. You need to educate them and inform them. The fact that most of your kids and mine go to these government schools doesn\u2019t mean you don\u2019t have a role in their lives. You have the most prominent and important role of anybody. Teach them these principles, understand them. Be confident. Teach them the confidence and you should have the confidence to talk to your neighbors or at a social event or a grocery store. You have these kids when they go to sleep, when they wake up, when they\u2019re eating dinner, when you\u2019re taking them to the mall or to a movie or to see a friend. We are a bigger army of advocates than ACORN can ever be. We are a bigger army of advocates than any other army out there. If each of us were to use our intelligence and use our ability to articulate these principles &#8212; which I hope I will help to promote here &#8212; they cannot stop us.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Mark, congratulations. It\u2019s a fine book. It\u2019s a great effort, and it\u2019s timely, and it fills a need and a void that so many people are hungering for now, and I want to tell this little story, if you don\u2019t mind, if I detail how this book actually came about.<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Go right ahead.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1416559132?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoffiwebs0d-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1416559132\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125109.Par.72771.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"274\" height=\"424\" class=\"alignright\"\/><\/a>RUSH: Mark wanted to write his book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1416559132?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=theoffiwebs0d-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1416559132\">Rescuing Sprite<\/a>, about his dog that he adopted that died, and everything itinerant to that and what it meant to him; and in order to get that book written he had to promise the publisher to write this book. But your genuine, real passion was the Sprite book. So when this book began, it was, &#8216;Okay, I gotta do this now,\u2019 and as you started it and got into it and as you complete it, what\u2019s happened here is that you\u2019ve ended up because of how serious you took this; you\u2019ve come up with two excellent, brilliant books that are as unique from one another as any two things could be, even though this was the afterthought. This is the one now that fits the&#8230; Mark was worried that the timing was all wrong. &#8216;This book shoulda come out before the election; it shoulda come out a year ago.\u2019 Nope. The timing of this is perfect. People are wandering in the woods looking for some guidance, beyond what they get everywhere else. This is something they can carry with them and give to people and help spread the word. Thank you, it\u2019s a great effort.<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: Let me just say real fast because I know you need to go here. You are the dearest of personal friends and I wish people could know and see just how you are in that respect.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I do, too.<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: And I think they know when they listen to you what a big heart you have &#8212; and number two, you\u2019ve taken so much crap on behalf of we conservatives day in and day out, and it upsets me to no end. But I\u2019m sure I can say on behalf of your millions and millions of listeners: &#8216;We appreciate you, we\u2019re proud of you, and keep giving \u2019em hell. We\u2019re behind you.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Thanks much. I know that, and I appreciate it more than you know. All the best, and keep us apprised of how well this is doing. Don\u2019t be bashful about that.<\/p>\n<p>LEVIN: God bless. Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: All right. Mark Levin. Liberty and Tyranny is the book. If your bookstore doesn\u2019t have it&#8230; (laughs) I just got a note, for example. 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