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RUSH: I have been looking forward to the next few minutes ever since this interview with Coach Tony Dungy was put together. Recently retired from the Indianapolis Colts, coming off the million copies of his first book Quiet Strength. This book is Uncommon, is the title, Finding Your Path to Significance<\/a>, the subtitle. Coach Dungy, welcome here. I can\u2019t tell you how thrilled and honored I am to be able to speak to you, sir.<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: Well, thank you, Rush. I feel the same. It\u2019s great being on with you and thank you for having me.<\/p>\n

<\/a>RUSH: I have to ask you about this. On the flier, the inside panel of the cover, from your coach at the University of Minnesota, Cal Stoll. ‘Success is uncommon. Therefore, not to be enjoyed by the common man.\u2019 He said, ‘I\u2019m looking for uncommon people.\u2019 Now, I find it fascinating because we in this country, we want success to be common, and unfortunately the coach here is right. Success is an uncommon thing. People who write books on how to be successful make a lot of money. How did you do interpret that when the coach said that to you?<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: Well, it made a big impact on me because you come in. I was 17-years-old, a freshman, I\u2019m coming in with 34 other guys, and he sits us down and says, ‘Hey, everybody is coming here. You think it\u2019s going to be great. You\u2019re excited. We\u2019re excited to have you, but not all of you are going to succeed, and the guys that are going to succeed are going to do it with uncommon effort. They\u2019re going to do it with uncommon drive — and you can\u2019t be average. You can\u2019t desire to be average, to go with the crowd. Those people are going to fall by the wayside, and that\u2019s what I\u2019m looking for,\u2019 and it kind of had an impact on me right away, because I did. I came in and figured, ‘Hey, everybody is going to be the same. We\u2019re all going to do great,\u2019 and he was saying, ‘No. Greatness doesn\u2019t come. It doesn\u2019t just happen.\u2019 <\/p>\n

So that\u2019s stuck with I think all 35 of those freshmen. It made me think. He also expanded on it. He said, ‘How can you be uncommon? That\u2019s what I\u2019m looking for.\u2019 He said, ‘Number one, you can have a talent that sets you apart. You can be faster, bigger, stronger, throw farther but that\u2019s only going to be 1% of the world. Most people have to be uncommon by having the desire to do things that everyone else could, but doesn\u2019t.\u2019 That part stuck with me. Then four years later I go to the NFL and Coach Noll, my coach for the Steelers in his first meeting said, ‘This is a great game. I want you to enjoy it, but it\u2019s not life, and it\u2019s not your life\u2019s work. You have to have some passion outside of football where you\u2019re going to devote your life to, to make things better, to make your community better.\u2019 So that was kind of the basis for this book, taking those two thoughts: What can you do to set yourself apart, to not just flow with the crowd; and what is your life\u2019s work going to be, what do you really want to do to make the world better?<\/p>\n

RUSH: In our culture today — and I think this is largely a product of the Baby Boom generation, which was raised, for the most part, with economic abundance, economic opportunity. The Baby Boom generation — and I\u2019m a member of it — has had the freedom and the time to be so self-focused, that we\u2019ve gotten to a point now in our country in too many segments of it, where we\u2019re trying to reward average because we say average has been victimized. The average people are victims of the people who have been successful. Do you find it in any way contradictory to stand so strongly for uncommon success when all around us is an effort to reward averageness?<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: Well, I think it\u2019s easy to fall into that situation where you think that\u2019s good, that\u2019s okay, and because that\u2019s where most people fall, that should be rewarded. But I think as a country we\u2019ve always taken that approach that you should strive to excel. We want to be the greatest country and we just gotta put that in the right parameters. ‘What does that mean?\u2019 and the same thing for an individual. You want to be significant. You want to do something special. But what does that mean? Is that just earning the most that you can? Is that just having the type of job that you want, or is it something more than that? I guess I\u2019ve always looked at it as kind of the spiritual side of life, and what does it mean to really be significant? But I agree with you. I think there\u2019s something wrong when you say that just being average, just getting by is okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, let me ask you this, because I\u2019m fascinated. You deal with professional athletes, and you\u2019ve dealt with college athletes, football players, which I think football athletes are a unique group as compared to baseball or other team sports. Do you, when you look out over the country — and I\u2019m sure this is part of your book — you believe that there are many more uncommonly successful people out there who are still average. They can reach uncommonness. They can reach success. They just don\u2019t quite know how or they haven\u2019t got the right mentors?<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: Absolutely. I think the potential in so many, especially our young people today, I see it. They have tremendous abilities, tremendous potential, but they\u2019ve kind of been given the idea that, ‘I can just go along with the crowd. Everyone else is doing this, so why do anything to set myself apart?\u2019 And I don\u2019t know where that comes from. That\u2019s the great thing about athletics. The guys that come to us have that drive to set themselves apart. That\u2019s what makes a Super Bowl champion. That desire that, ‘I don\u2019t want to come in second place. I want to do everything in my power to get to be the best,\u2019 and I think if we take that attitude and point it towards significant things, not just winning football games or not just making money, we can, you know, have a country that is uncommon.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that\u2019s in fact what you want to do now that you\u2019ve left the National Football League. You want to work in your ministry. You want to work with disadvantaged people and you want to try to tell them and teach them what you\u2019ve learned and be their spark, correct?<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: That is for me, and I saw just in the last couple of years in Indianapolis we had this past year the highest homicide rate that we\u2019ve had in the summer. It was the worst three months in the history of the city. We\u2019ve right now in the public school a 19% graduation rate with males in the Indianapolis public school. And I talk to these kids, and they\u2019ve got so much more than that, that\u2019s available to them. I just felt like I was sitting there reaching a group that was 22 to 35 years old, and I thought I could do a little bit more in reaching guys before they got to that point and helping younger kids tap in on that potential like so many people helped me.<\/p>\n

RUSH: We\u2019re talking to Coach Tony Dungy, author of the book Uncommon: Finding Your Path to Significance. Now, folks, I want to read you some of the parts. There are chapters, but they comprise parts. I want to go through these. There is not a wasted page in Coach Dungy\u2019s book. ‘Develop Your Core\u2019 is part 1. Part 2 is ‘Love Your Family.\u2019 The chapters there are: ‘Fatherhood, How to Treat a Woman, Respect Authority. Part 3: Lift Your Friends and Others.\u2019 It\u2019s about friendship and the power of positive influence. Part 4 is ‘Your Full Potential. Part Five: Establish a Mission that Matters.\u2019 Part 6… This is the one. Coach, I really want to ask you about this, because there\u2019s so much of this in our culture today, both pop culture, professional culture, throughout society. You say, ‘Choose Influence over Image.\u2019 Now, that\u2019s a part, and there are four chapters in this part: ‘Respect for Yourself and Others, Sexual Integrity, Platforms, Role Model.\u2019 Would you explain what you mean by ‘choosing influence over image\u2019?<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: I think right now our kids — and I have a 17-year-old, I have a 24-year-old, and then we have three young children, but they are very, very much into image. ‘What do I look like? What do people think I look like?\u2019 You know, ‘I\u2019ve gotta drive a certain car. I\u2019ve gotta dress a certain way,\u2019 all of those things that young people feel are important — and I probably was the same way to a certain extent. But that\u2019s not the most important thing. And that\u2019s what you try to get across, the influence and maybe you shaping what people should want to be like, as opposed to saying, ‘I want to be like someone else. I want to be like society says I should be.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right. Choosing how you influence people rather than how they perceive you. But, you know, it\u2019s not just kids. I mean, I work in the media. There is so much phoniness in the media, so many people that are just concerned with their image. When they\u2019re not number one, they want a PR firm to tell people they are.<\/line> <\/line> COACH DUNGY: (laughing) Yeah.<\/line> <\/line> RUSH: It pervades our society in so many ways, and as such, nobody knows what\u2019s real.<\/line> <\/line> COACH DUNGY: I know when I was an assistant coach and I started interviewing for head coaching jobs I actually lost out on many jobs, several jobs, and the complaint that I got was, ‘Well, he doesn\u2019t fit the mold of a head coach. He doesn\u2019t look the part. He\u2019s not gonna jump up and down. He\u2019s not going to scream. He\u2019s not going to motivate these guys the way they need to be,\u2019 because they looked at my image and did not really look at what was inside of me. So I had a decision to make, I could say, ‘Well, okay. I\u2019m going to change my image to try to get one of these jobs,\u2019 or ‘I\u2019m going to continue to be true to myself and hopefully somebody will recognize that,\u2019 and that\u2019s what happened. I made a decision I wasn\u2019t going to change. I did end up getting the Tampa job, and that was one of the motivations for me over the last 13 years as a head coach, to show people that, ‘Hey, you don\u2019t have to be like people perceive you should be in this job. I can be effective. I can put out a winning football team and maybe break the stereotype of what a coach should look like.\u2019<\/line> <\/line> RUSH: All successful people have gotten a break. There\u2019s a moment in their lives where things fall correctly. What was yours? You look back through your whole life. Not just the Tampa head coach job, but you had to put in a lot of hard work before that. Who gave you your break, say, playing into coaching?<\/line> <\/line> COACH DUNGY: The biggest break I got was really coming out of college. I was a quarterback in college. I hoped to go to the NFL, and I didn\u2019t get drafted. I then became a free agent. I could sign with whoever I wanted to and I ended up going to Pittsburgh. They offered me a contract, and that\u2019s where I hooked up with, first of all, a great group of Christian players that kind of helped me develop my character, but I also met Chuck Noll there, and he taught me as a player. He talked about doing something significant in life — your life\u2019s work and not just playing football. But then he gave me the chance to go in his coaching staff at 25 years old and taught me how to be a coach.<\/line> <\/line> RUSH: Interesting. That is fascinating. And the Steelers are in the Super Bowl this weekend, which we\u2019ll talk about with Coach Dungy and some other things after this brief time-out. Again, Coach Tony Dungy and his new book, Uncommon: Finding Your Path to Significance<\/a>. <\/line><\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: We\u2019re talking with Tony Dungy, coach of the National Football League Indianapolis Colts, recently retired, about his great new book. Uncommon: Finding Your Path to Significance. Part 6 of the coach\u2019s book is ‘Live your Faith,\u2019 and the chapters there are ‘Eternal Self-esteem\u2019 Relationship With Christ\u2019 Faith, Purpose, Significance.\u2019 I have a question for you about ‘purpose,\u2019 because you\u2019re talking here about common people becoming uncommon, enjoying greatness and success. I was fortunate in my life. I knew when I was nine or ten what I wanted to do, and for the sake of discussing your book, I\u2019ll call it my purpose.<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: Okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: What do you do tell people who don\u2019t know what their purpose is, and how do you tell them to find it?<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: Well, you know what? That\u2019s not all that odd. Many people, my kids are going through the same thing now. I\u2019ve got a daughter who\u2019s 24 who really thinks she knows what she wants to do, but is not quite sure, and you\u2019ll find it. I think it\u2019s a combination of what the Lord gives you. He gives you desires and things you enjoy, and then He gives you things that you\u2019re gifted at; and at some point, those things are going to come together. That opportunity is going to come in an area that you enjoy, that you have a passion about, and that you\u2019re good at. You just have to keep seeking that until it becomes evident, but I think the Lord makes it pretty clear to you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Did you know your purpose before Coach Noll said, ‘This is football. You\u2019ve gotta start thinking about your life\u2019s work\u2019? Did you know what your purpose was when he said that?<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: No, I really didn\u2019t at the time. I felt like I wanted to play for about ten years and then go into business. I was a business major at the University of Minnesota, so in the off-season back then — my players laugh now when I tell them the story, but — we all had off-season jobs. I worked at Mellon Bank one year. I went to Heinz, to Dayton Hudson. I tried all these different jobs, and I enjoyed them and I was using my education, but I never — that spark never lit. I thought I was going to have about six or seven more years to figure that out. I got traded a couple times, eventually got cut and I was at the end of my football career, and Coach Noll called me, and he said, ‘I think you\u2019ve got a real aptitude for this game, and would you like to try coaching?\u2019 The first day I was on the job, I couldn\u2019t wait to get back the next day, and that\u2019s when I knew I wanted to be a coach.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You guys work such long hours. When did you find time to write this book, Coach? I mean, you had to put this book together at least in the last season and a half, and I know that you were traveling to Tampa every Friday for your son\u2019s football games and so forth and going back to Indianapolis, or traveling on the road for games. And this is not an insignificant book. I mean how did you find time to do this?<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: Well, that was another lesson I learned from Coach Noll. We work a lot of hours in the NFL, but I don\u2019t work as many hours as maybe some people do, and he always felt that you had to have time away from the game, you had to have family time, and he was successful doing it. I just really made it maybe a little bit more efficient in how we do it, and maybe just a little more secure in being able to say, ‘I don\u2019t have to be there 18 hours to prove to people that we\u2019re working hard.\u2019 So I don\u2019t think… Maybe I don\u2019t have the hours that some people have, but it was a project of love. Nathan Whitaker, who wrote the book with me, we did a lot of back-and-forth, communicating facts and talking on the phone. It did take a while, but it was something that we enjoyed doing, and we did it throughout most of the off season.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Ah. All right. Coach Dungy is with us. His new book is Uncommon: Finding Your Path to Significance. Coach, I want to ask you something because I checked my e-mail here during the interview and there are some people who want to ask for clarification on the quote from your first coach at Minnesota, Cal Stoll, who said, ‘Success is uncommon.\u2019 There are a lot of people think that America is made up of a lot of successful people, that that\u2019s what determines and has determined America\u2019s greatness. Yet your coach said that success is uncommon. I guess this depends on how we define success.<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: That\u2019s exactly right. You know, you have to look at that, what is really successful, and he talked about that — to and elaborate on it, that — success is really fulfilling your potential. It\u2019s not how many games you win. It\u2019s not the fact that you were a Pro Bowl player or you weren\u2019t. What did you have the potential to do? And if you came close to that, if you maximized that, then you were a success in God\u2019s eyes. So many us do things that the world would say is successful, but we have so much more potential.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Let me ask you about the Super Bowl, if you have a couple of minutes here.<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: I do.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You\u2019re going to be working the pregame for NBC, or some of the game itself?<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: I\u2019m actually doing the pregame show for NBC, yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And you\u2019re doing that with Coach Holmgren?<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: Yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And they\u2019ve added a couple of other people. It\u2019s a crowded field. I\u2019m amazed, Coach. I watch former coaches who go into television talking about the game, and I\u2019m a fan. I love the National Football League. They end up talking about the game the way I do, and I\u2019ve never played it. I\u2019ve never been involved in it. I guess there\u2019s some things that you have to keep close to the vest, especially if you want to get back into the game, but this game, National Football League particularly, is so… I think even though it\u2019s the most-watched game on television, if people could watch one of these games on the sidelines — see the speeds, the collisions and so forth, the average American, speaking of average. The average successful American wouldn\u2019t last one offensive series on National Football League. <\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: (chuckling)<\/p>\n

RUSH: These guys are so tough that play this game.<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: Well, it is, but it\u2019s interesting you say that coaches talk about the game like you do because really that\u2019s one of the secrets of the game. It\u2019s not that complicated. We try to make it seem more complicated than it is. There are tenets that I learned, you know, 30 years ago from Coach Noll that are never going to change. And it\u2019s really about getting people to be focused, to focus on the goal of winning and put team goals ahead of individual goals, and it\u2019s not that hard to win. So I think that\u2019s what people are trying to get across, but it is great athletes. These guys are so big now and so fast, so much different than even when I played 30 years ago.<\/p>\n

RUSH: We\u2019ve got a minute and a half, so we\u2019ll get to the game itself. All of the conventional wisdom is the Steelers defense is what to watch here against Kurt Warner. Is that really where this game is going to hinge, do you think?<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: I do think it\u2019s going to be that way. How can Arizona\u2019s offense — they don\u2019t have to win the game, but they don\u2019t have to make sure they don\u2019t lose the game. Pittsburgh wins a lot of games on defense, and so while they\u2019re trying to score and make big plays with their passing offense, Arizona can\u2019t do things to lose the game. I think that\u2019s going to be the key matchup.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Is the hype on Larry Fitzgerald accurate? I mean, this guy\u2019s being portrayed as indefensible. He\u2019s going to… You triple coverage him, and he\u2019s going to find a way to catch the ball.<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: No, that\u2019s not true. A lot of times that happens, you know, we — we — He\u2019s hot right now, and he\u2019s had some big games, but the Steelers will go in, I believe, saying they\u2019re going to make someone else beat them, and the other guys are going to have to step up. They\u2019ll find a way to limit him for sure.<\/p>\n

RUSH: It sounds like you think the Steelers are going to win this.<\/p>\n

COACH DUNGY: Well, I like the experience factor. They\u2019ve got a lot of guys who have been there before, but Arizona has got some key components. Their coach was in Pittsburgh. He understands that defense. He\u2019s practiced against it. There\u2019s a good friend of mine, Edgerrin James, who I\u2019m hoping can get a Super Bowl ring because he didn\u2019t get his with us. He played for us for a number of years, and I\u2019d like to see him win, and he\u2019s a big game player. And Arizona is hot right now so it\u2019s going to be a tight game, but I think that Pittsburgh may just win out.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Coach, thank you so much. This has been a real thrill for me. I\u2019ve wanted to meet you and talk to you for the longest time and I can now say I\u2019ve done it. Coach Tony Dungy and the book is Uncommon<\/a>, and it\u2019s worth reading.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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