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RUSH: Karen in Lansing, Michigan. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. How\u2019s it going?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Pretty, well, thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: The reason I\u2019m calling is to maybe show you a different point of view. My husband worked for one of the Big Three for 33 years as an electrical engineer. And in that time he put in an average of — and I\u2019m saying sometimes more — 60 hours a week. He very, very seldom ever, ever, ever got something called overtime. Even worked Easter Sunday once to make sure a car platform was going properly. He worked constantly. As he did that, you would never see a union person work overtime. They would stand in line to wait to get out the door at five o\u2019clock. And as the union people got more and more benefits year after year, we watched our benefits go down further and further and further.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait, wait, wait, hold on, I need to understand something here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Your husband was not a union member?<\/p>\n

CALLER: He was not a union member. He was an electrical engineer. He was very low management. And he would put an average —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — of 60 hours a week in, even Easter Sunday, and he did not get paid overtime. He also did not gripe. That was his job. At the same time, you would watch the union people never work a bit of overtime unless they got paid and stand at the door and wait to get out at five o\u2019clock because that\u2019s what the union said. As the union demanded more and more benefits, such as insurance for their pets, which thank goodness they didn\u2019t get, my husband\u2019s benefits dropped. The more the union got, the less we got. And we saw this happen year after year after year. The automobile industry is in trouble because of government and because of unions. Unions don\u2019t give up. Unions demand, governments demand. They want CAFE standards, they want emission standards, they want everything, and the average person in that company works. It\u2019s not their fault. It\u2019s not even Big Management\u2019s fault. It\u2019s union\u2019s fault; it\u2019s government\u2019s fault.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, you sound very passionate about this out there, Karen.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I am very passionate about it because I lived it for 33 years. And now after 33 years, my husband retired, we sit here and go, ‘Okay, what\u2019s next for us?\u2019 You know, we will survive. I don\u2019t honestly want to see a bailout —<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, no, no, no, no, wait a minute. Retired, so I\u2019m sure he gets his salary in full in retirement, at least 80% of it, plus his pension, what are you worried about?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I\u2019ll tell you what, because I don\u2019t think, if this works the way everything else works, unions will not give up, but a person like my husband will. He doesn\u2019t have that great of a pension, trust me. It\u2019s not like the unions. <\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019m sure, but doesn\u2019t General Motors pay him 80% of his salary even when he\u2019s not working?<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, that\u2019s not true. That is not true. That is not true. He does not get that, absolutely not.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, it\u2019s only the unions that get that.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, it\u2019s not my husband. My husband worked hard. He does not get that. And so our fear is, I mean we have mixed emotions, you know? Part of us goes, ‘Don\u2019t bail \u2019em out, let the union finally have to give up everything, get \u2019em off the job bank.\u2019 And the other part of you goes, ‘Okay, if they do do a bailout or if they bankrupt, do we lose our pension, half our pension?\u2019 We will probably lose all of our health insurance. I\u2019m very blessed to have an adopted little boy. I\u2019m worried about his health insurance. I\u2019ll survive. But there\u2019s a lot of things that we look at now and go, ‘Yes, we saved money, we scrimped, we saved, we did not take huge vacations, we don\u2019t own second homes or motor homes. But the truth of the matter is, what will be there?\u2019 Either way, I mean the bailout may help for a while, but truth is, if they do bankrupt, we will be the first to lose. It won\u2019t be the union people, it will be us.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019m digesting this. I feel very sorry for everybody that\u2019s in a circumstance like this. The greatest country in the world, and to have this kind of fear about tomorrow&hellip;<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: I want you to look very closely at what is happening with this United Auto Workers, the General Motors, Ford, Chrysler bailout and all this, \u2019cause this is a union bailout. Snerdley said to me at the break at the top of the hour, ‘I know where this is headed. I know exactly where this is headed. What\u2019s going to happen is the government is going to take over all of the union legacy costs — the pensions, the health care, the retirement pay for all of the retired autoworkers. Once that happens, then the deal is done then they can go do the bailout and everything is hunky-dory.\u2019 I said, ‘That ain\u2019t going to be what\u2019s going to happen.\u2019 What\u2019s going to happen? The first thing out of my mouth today when the program opened: There\u2019s going to be a bailout. It\u2019s going to happen when Obama gets in there. There\u2019s going to be some kind of little bridge. <\/p>\n

They\u2019re going to take TARP money. They\u2019re going to do this. It\u2019s going to happen to get \u2019em to Obama\u2019s inauguration. Bush going to kick the can down the road, make sure that they don\u2019t go belly up on his watch. Then what\u2019s going to happen, folks, is the genuine nationalization of these companies. The federal government is going to take an ownership stake, and it\u2019s going to be significant, and the management of these companies will be more than happy for it to happen. Then what\u2019s going to happen after that…. Remember, now, we\u2019re going to have to — you know, Obama is who he is and his ideology is what it is, and that ideology will be peppered throughout the bureaucracy, the House and the Senate. What\u2019s going to happen is at some point down the road (a year or two, whatever) the unions, the United Auto Workers is going to own the automobile industry. <\/p>\n

They are going to have more than one seat on the board of directors of these companies. They\u2019re going to own a significant percentage of the automobile industry. This will be done by government simply transferring the ownership that they have taken by virtue of their bailout to the United Auto Workers, and this will be done under the rubric of class envy, that it\u2019s about time that the people who really made this company what it is, the people who build the cars, it\u2019s about time they shared in ownership, about time they got what has been rightfully theirs all this many decades. And then, what I want you to pay special attention to is: ‘Walmart, you\u2019re next, \u2019cause this is what is gunning for you.\u2019 Now, they won\u2019t be able to claim that Walmart needs a bailout, because right now Walmart is run very responsibly and McDonald\u2019s, too. <\/p>\n

Some companies out there are turning a profit. People are going in and buying things from these places because they can afford them, for a host of reasons. But as you know, if you look at the Democrat Party enemies list, it is almost all corporate entities, plus me, and they don\u2019t like Walmart \u2019cause it ain\u2019t union. They also don\u2019t like Walmart \u2019cause people that patronize Walmart get a better bang for their buck than they do from government social programs. People love Walmart. Barney Frank wants people to love him, love government. There\u2019s a little jealousy there. But they\u2019re not unionized. So that\u2019s where we\u2019re headed. Elections have consequences. They matter. Now, I want to tell you something else. I asked you before the previous hour came to a screeching halt to remember the fear that was in Karen from Lansing towards the end of her call. <\/p>\n

Forget for a moment what she said about her husband nonunion engineer working for General Motors who didn\u2019t earn as much and never got paid overtime. Her husband is retired, and they have a little pension. She\u2019s worried about bankruptcy. If they go bankruptcy people like her and her husband are first to go in a reorganization. Bankruptcy, you figure out who you can pay and who you can\u2019t. Bankruptcy reorganization basically figures on who\u2019s gonna get paid among the creditors and who isn\u2019t. And who\u2019s gonna get paid, you know, what percentage of the dollars that they\u2019re owed and had this sort of thing. And she fears that she\u2019s going to go — and she fears her health care is going to go, and she has an adopted son and she\u2019s afraid his health care is going to go. <\/p>\n

She\u2019s living in fear, and it distresses me greatly to live in the greatest country, the most prosperous country on earth, for people to have this kind of fear because government involvement has made pricing of various things so high that people can\u2019t afford it without government, or a company benefit. It\u2019s a crying shame what has happened. There\u2019s no concrete, logical reason why health care should cost what it does. If health care were a pure free market thing, it wouldn\u2019t. I mean, there\u2019s no reason a hospital bed should cost $1200 a night and yet you can go to a motel, hotel, and get one for $89, $150. See, hotels can\u2019t charge $1200 a bed because there\u2019s nobody paying them for it besides the customer. They have to price themselves based on what the customers can pay. <\/p>\n

It\u2019s the same thing with restaurants, same with everything else. Now, there are levels of hotels, there are levels of cars, there\u2019s levels of homes and so forth. There\u2019s a market for everybody who has whatever they have to spend. In health care there is no such market. It costs what it costs, and it has nothing to do with you, has nothing to do with your ability to pay. Government once again has made it that way, government being involved. It\u2019s going to get worse. The fear that was in Karen\u2019s voice, the things that she\u2019s afraid of, it\u2019s not just autoworkers involved here, folks. If the economy collapses, as it could, from all of this spending, everybody is going to be poor and without health care. It\u2019s not just the autoworkers. It is all workers. It\u2019s all businesses large and small, all citizens of this country. <\/p>\n

Where do you think this money is coming from? The Fed lends two trillion to people, we don\u2019t know who. Who\u2019s going to pay it back? What are the terms? Two trillion, where did they get it? The annual federal budget is three trillion, and there\u2019s a deficit of 600 billion with that. Now it\u2019s gonna be almost 1.6 to maybe two trillion in deficit next year. Where\u2019s this coming from? It\u2019s not all coming from other countries buying our Treasury bills. They\u2019re printing money. They have to be printing money. Where is this coming from? You can\u2019t keep doing this. You can\u2019t keep printing money like this. You cannot keep spending money like this, refusing to draw lines. No discipline whatsoever, a total avoidance of reality. I\u2019m convinced liberals don\u2019t know where money comes from. <\/p>\n

They say it\u2019s there and there\u2019s more — wherever they need to go get it, they get it, printing press or taxes or wherever. You just can\u2019t spend and spend and spend with government taking over percentages of this business or that sector without destroying the economy at some point. And the problem is that the government\u2019s doing exactly the wrong things. It continues to increase regulations on companies that are going bankrupt. It continues to protect union contracts that are unrealistic because the companies are going bankrupt. I don\u2019t care what the deal in the past was. If the company\u2019s going bankrupt, all bets are off. The government continues to promote no growth fuel policies that are now having an impact on our economy by making us poorer — and that, I fear, is their intent. Have you seen…? Let me find this in the stack very quickly. <\/p>\n

This stuff that\u2019s going on out in California, and they\u2019re so happy about this. Their pollution board out there just passed the most restrictive carbon emissions bill in the country. It is going to force businesses out of business, and these government bureaucrats out there think they\u2019re doing great things to save the country and the planet from global warming. They stay, ‘Look, one state alone can\u2019t do it but we\u2019re going to lead the way.\u2019 They\u2019re going to lead the way in businesses shutting down. California is already — the governor is — talking about needing a bailout. We spend a fortune on the poor. We spend a fortune on the unemployed. We spend a fortune on people without health care. Short of nationalizing our entire system, what else can we do? And what\u2019s the return we\u2019re getting? We\u2019re spending a fortune on the poor, and we have, and there\u2019s still the same percentage of people who are poor. <\/p>\n

We keep extending unemployment benefits. We are robbing people of their incentive to go out and make a job, to create a job. We\u2019re robbing people of the inherent entrepreneurial spirit they might have, because we\u2019re giving them unemployment benefits, extending them. If we nationalizing everything, we\u2019re going to be poorer. Here\u2019s another critical point, too. We conservatives have been warning for years about the consequences of runaway government. We have been warning for years about the destructive consequences of environmental regulations and taxes. I read today that Obama has appointed Algore to head up a ‘green\u2019 inaugural ball, and Algore has convinced Obama that — I don\u2019t know that he had to convince him, but this Kyoto thing and cap-and-trade, Obama can\u2019t wait. <\/p>\n

He\u2019s going to totally redo our energy program, plan, policy, to go totally ‘green,\u2019 and that\u2019s a misnomer because green does not mean more energy. It doesn\u2019t mean cleaner energy. It doesn\u2019t mean cheaper energy. It means less energy; it\u2019s more expensive. We have been warning for years, we conservatives have, about the destructive consequences of all these regulations and taxes. It is we conservatives who have been trying to fight these job-killing, business-killing, dollar-killing policies. Other than a short period of governance under Reagan, the left in this country has reigned supreme. Of course and they make the same arguments they made in the past. ‘We need more money, we need more money. You know, this didn\u2019t work because we didn\u2019t have enough funding and that didn\u2019t work because we didn\u2019t have enough funding. We need more funding, more regulations.\u2019 <\/p>\n

You can trace the demise of the free market, you can trace the reduction here in prosperity and so forth, you can trace it right to a particular ideology: liberalism. These are the people that populate government at all sectors. Government kills jobs, kills incentive, kills innovation, kills prosperity, and it kills business. Capitalism works. It really works. The rest of the world is going capitalist. Thirteen percent flat tax in Russia. The ChiComs cutting business taxes. Sweden, arguably the most socialist nation in the world, is cutting taxes. The French are cutting taxes. German is cutting taxes. We are going in the opposite direction. We\u2019re headed toward a Western European-type socialism, and they have seen the error of all that, finally, and many of those Western European socialist nations are turning the corner. We need to try capitalism, folks, because it works.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: If I\u2019m right, if I\u2019m right, folks, and if, down the road, what Obama does is basically take over a percentage of the auto company, nationalize and then transfer it, out of goodwill, to the unions, he ought to be transferring it to us, \u2019cause it\u2019s our money that will be buying these companies. See, everybody forgets this. The government doesn\u2019t have diddly-squat except the money they print, and that is destructive. The other money they have is what they tax from those who produce in this country. They\u2019re gonna take that money and they\u2019re going to nationalize a portion of the auto industry and then they\u2019re going to give that to the union. This is my theory. This is not written anywhere. We\u2019re going to be the ones that own these companies. And whatever happened to sacrifice? The only people not being asked to sacrifice here are union leaders. You United Auto Workers people, you\u2019re going to sacrifice, when this is all said and done. By sacrifice I mean, there will be some legacy concessions that will be made at some point, it will happen. Union leaders, though, won\u2019t \u2019cause union leaders take your money from you and then donate it to Democrats. That\u2019s why we support the workers but not the union.<\/p>\n

An innovative idea, ladies and gentlemen, in Pittsburgh — wrong stack. Hang on. I\u2019ve got so many stacks here. Wrong stack. I just had the damn stack here. This show is wearing me out today. That\u2019s how good it\u2019s been. I feel like I have played in the Ravens-Steelers game that\u2019s coming up Sunday. Here it is. ‘Public Schools officials may change a policy that makes 50 percent the lowest grade students can receive – even if they do zero work.\u2019 You think this is just accidentally stupid? This kind of stuff is being done by design, ladies and gentlemen. The lowest grade, 50% even if they do zero work. ‘The policy is meant to help students recover from a bad grade or the odd missed assignment. But the district\u2019s teachers complain that some students refuse to hand in assignments because they\u2019re content to get the \u201950 percent\u2019 grade for doing nothing.\u2019<\/p>\n

I know how I was in school. Boy, if they had this rule, that\u2019s what I would do, I\u2019d do zilch! I\u2019d do zilch and get a C for it? A C was an M when I was in grade school, but for doing nothing? Well, I didn\u2019t do anything in school anyway, and when I didn\u2019t do anything, I suffered for it, oh, man. ‘Proponents of the policy say students who aren\u2019t given a chance to recover from low grades lose incentive to improve them.\u2019 Not given a chance to recover from low grades? What do you mean not given a chance to recover from low grades? There\u2019s a simple way to recover from low grades. Get better ones. It\u2019s a sitcom. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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