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RUSH: People have been waiting patiently as they always do on this program, so we will reward them by returning to the phones. We go to Miami. Jack, you\u2019re next on the Rush Limbaugh program. Hello, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey. How you doing?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Just fine, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Great. Longtime listener, first-time caller.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Great to have you with us.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Great. I wanted to ask you a question. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019ve been listening all week, and then you mentioned that we would have to drag McCain to the finish line. The way the polls are going, and I\u2019m looking at the electoral map, everything is pointing out to a landslide for the Democratic Party.<\/p>\n

RUSH: What? Everything is not pointing to a landslide. What do you define as a landslide?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m looking at the polls and I\u2019m looking at the electoral map, and it seems like McCain is not making any gains. He\u2019s losing ground on certain states that he should be winning.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, this actually is not true. Karl Rove has a piece today in the Wall Street Journal… I know this is not your primary point, but in the latest Gallup poll that came out Obama lost two points and twice as many undecideds exist today as last presidential year. There are more undecideds in the Gallup poll this year. <\/p>\n

CALLER: But —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, go ahead.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But, Rush, let me ask you this. With all honesty, do you think that McCain does have a chance, especially from what you just read here regarding the scholar about the economy, do you think that he has a chance?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, I do. It\u2019s not over. There are 20 days left. And anything can happen in those 20 days. And, you know, I\u2019m of a frame of mind here that you don\u2019t give up even after you lose.<\/p>\n

CALLER: (laughing) Yeah, I was about to ask you that also, because, if we were to lose, he would have the Congress, the president, and he would also have the media supporting him.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Don\u2019t you think it would be harder for us at that point to really come back?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, but, see, here\u2019s my optimism, Jack. This is what I think is going to happen. If your scenario happens, if the Democrats pick up enough seats to have a filibuster-proof Senate and they\u2019re going to have a lot of seats — a majority — in the House and they\u2019re going to have to Obama. If we have basically a one-party apparatus here, government with no way to stop it, the Democrats are going to overreach. They\u2019re going to take this country into directions that people voting for them have no idea. They are going to reject it. I reject the notion that the people of this country want socialism. I think the people of this country who are voting for Obama have no idea who he is.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, but they\u2019re going to have a big support. The media is going to try to portray it as just a moderate direction.<\/p>\n

RUSH: It won\u2019t matter. Their lives are going to be affected in profound ways that they won\u2019t care what the media is saying. Now, about the media, Jack. This is crucial, \u2019cause you talking about the media. One of the first things — and this is going to be an epic fight — that\u2019s going to happen is the Democrats will move to get rid of people like me and Hannity and every other conservative talk show host on radio by reimposing the Fairness Doctrine. We\u2019re going to litigate it, of course, but litigation takes a long time. But that\u2019s going to be one of the first things they do. Obama\u2019s philosophy is you clear the playing field. You just get people out of the way. The Democrats do not like criticism. They don\u2019t like the fact that they can\u2019t succeed in this medium so they want to wipe this medium out, and they can do it by reimposing the Fairness Doctrine. That\u2019s going to be an epic battle and the American people on our side are not going to put up with that. It really is going to be epic. But even if they succeed in doing that, and if they have a total dictatorship, there are still elections. Now, ACORN\u2019s going to still be cheating and so forth, but the American people in two years are going to find out, if these people do what they claim they\u2019re going to do, they\u2019re going to so negatively affect people\u2019s lives that the midterm elections in 2010 will get rid of a lot of Democrats in the House and the Senate. Now, I\u2019ve gotta take a break. I want to get your thoughts of what I just said so hold on through the break and we\u2019ll get right back to you.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: And we\u2019re back to Jack in Miami. Okay, Jack, it\u2019s your turn. Now react to what I said.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I agree with you, but at the same time I have to question it, because, remember, I remember during the 2006 congressional election, you were that optimistic, but then it went south, and then you told us — well, you were under the impression that we probably would be able to recover by the end of 2008. But that thing has never happened —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, see, the difference there is — and this is the challenge McCain has, by the way. You asked, ‘Is it over?\u2019 You just heard me read this business, the Irrational Electorate from the scholar at the Woodrow Wilson Center. What that piece basically says is, people vote the economy. When they think times are bad, they throw the people in charge out. Right now that\u2019s not the Democrats in their minds, it\u2019s Bush. Bush has been the president for eight years. So it\u2019s incumbent, McCain has to do this, the McCain campaign must, in the remaining 20 days tie this economic mess, this mortgage crisis and all the things that spring from it to the Democrats because it can be done because they are responsible. It\u2019s not saying it\u2019s going to be easy because McCain doesn\u2019t like it and Democrats, but it\u2019s got to be done. This is one thing that could happen. But I don\u2019t want to confuse you here. My optimism is eternal, but I\u2019m not unrealistic at the same time. I\u2019ll tell you something, Jack, if your scenario eventuates and they get these super majorities in the House and the Senate, and Obama in the White House, we\u2019re going to be 25 years cleaning up the mess because here\u2019s something else that\u2019s going to happen.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Within six months of Obama being inaugurated, two liberal Supreme Court judges will quit, and he will appoint them, and he will appoint more liberal judges than are even there now. He\u2019s probably going to have, if he goes four years, he\u2019ll have even more than two that he might have a chance to reappoint. In addition to the Supreme Court judges, one thing that\u2019s not very well known is that federal judges, both the circuit courts and the district courts, you can retire on a pull pension, full salary pension the rest of your life. You might have a whole bunch of judges just quit, giving Obama the chance to appoint them, and the Republicans are not going to be able to stop the most liberal judicial appointees to the Supreme Court, circuit courts, and the district courts, in a long, long time, and these people are there for life, and it\u2019s going to be a long time cleaning this mess up. And those people cannot be thrown out of office.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I hope that McCain knows that he has a big task in front of him.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, this is the thing. I was talking to some friends of mine who are equally frustrated with Senator McCain\u2019s view of the campaign, the presidency. And my way of expressing my point of view to them was I don\u2019t know how conscious he is about the things you have asked me. I think to him, this is a standard, ordinary, everyday, every-four-years presidential campaign, and that the other side is honorable and that somebody has to win and somebody has to lose. But I don\u2019t think he sees the result of his defeat in terms of what the nation will become as you and I do.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I hope he sees that, because —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, I don\u2019t know that to be the case. But if he did, I think he\u2019d be a little bit more animated about wanting to win this. See, look at it this way. McCain is 72. If he\u2019s elected, you know, big whoop. Obama I think wants this for totally different reasons than McCain does. Obama wants this to reshape America. He really wants this to reshape what this country is. McCain\u2019s motivation for this is — I\u2019m not saying he doesn\u2019t have a great motivation, but he doesn\u2019t think this way, he doesn\u2019t think in terms of ideology, he doesn\u2019t think in terms of socialist, capitalist, and so forth. He just doesn\u2019t. So this is why I\u2019ve been saying we\u2019re going to have to drag him across the finish line. I don\u2019t mean to be insulting in that way but somebody\u2019s going to have to spell out, like we all are doing, what we face if he loses.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I just hope that he realizes that before November the 4th, Rush, I hope so.<\/p>\n

RUSH: A lot of people do, Jack. A lot of people do. We\u2019re hanging in there, buddy, but there\u2019s going to be a lot of dispirited people if Obama does win this, because if he wins it it\u2019s going to mean bad things down the ballot as well. You talk about the media, the media\u2019s done everything it can to depress you and every other voter out there to make you thinking this is already over and that Obama — look how you started out your call, you\u2019re looking at the polls, and you see a landslide.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: It\u2019s not there yet. It\u2019s really not there yet.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Like you said, it\u2019s not time for us to panic. (laughing) <\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019ll tell you when it\u2019s time to panic.<\/p>\n

CALLER: All right, thank you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, Jack. Thanks for the call. <\/p>\n

David in Friendswood, Texas, it\u2019s great to have you with us on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Longtime listener, first-time caller.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I want to talk about the fact that Obama last night said that people making under $250,000 would not see a tax increase.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I make under $250,000. I took out my tax return from 2007. I took out the tax rates from 2000. I applied the tax rates from 2000 to the tax brackets in 2007. I calculated what my taxes would have been. It would have been $4,000 higher. If Congress does nothing, if Barack does nothing, the Bush tax cuts expire, my taxes go up $4,000.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Exactly right. And they\u2019re going to do even more than that. They\u2019re going to restore the Clinton-era tax brackets, and you\u2019re in it, buddy. You\u2019ll be up there near the 36 to 39% bracket.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yep.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Interesting that you did that. People are not talking about the expiration of the Bush tax cuts because that\u2019s just going to happen, the Democrats will not extend them, and so that\u2019s an automatic tax increase there. Then, with what else Obama has planned — but what about this, what about Obama saying 95% of the American people are going to get a tax cut?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I can\u2019t comprehend how that could be true.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I read somewhere that Axelrod was being asked by somebody to explain this 95%. What brackets are going to get cut? Axelrod couldn\u2019t tell anybody, and he said, (paraphrasing) ‘I\u2019ll have to get back to you on this, but I can just assure that 95% of Americans are going to get a tax cut.\u2019 What kind of taxes are you talking about? Are you talking about income taxes? He had no answer. This is just a fluff number being thrown out there, just like $250,000 is the magic number, above which you get soaked, below which you supposedly don\u2019t. But as you have just demonstrated, you\u2019re below it, you\u2019re going to get soaked. Four grand a year is not insignificant in an economy like this.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And, Rush, one more point I\u2019d like to make is they\u2019re probably going to say I ignored the fact that tax brackets are indexed for inflation. I did not ignore that. I applied the tax rates from 2000 to the tax brackets for 2007. So if you were to just take your income and go back to 2000 tax table and calculate your taxes, that number would be invalid. That is not what I did.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Good for you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: All right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: David, appreciate that. Thank you.<\/p>\n

Ron in Columbus, Georgia. Nice to have you, sir, on the EIB Network.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m sorry. I heard you say EIB Network. Dittos to you, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Appreciate that.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I\u2019ve been listening since about \u201991, so we go way back together, and you\u2019re doing a great job, thank you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Seventeen big years. That\u2019s amazing.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yep. Listen, I wanted to contrast Obama with Jimmy Carter here a minute, if we can.<\/p>\n

RUSH: There is no contrast. See, that\u2019s the thing. You\u2019re going to tell us the differences?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I\u2019m sorry. I should say the similarities.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yes.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That was wrong. You know, in \u201976 I was in the Navy, and Mr. Carter came on the scene. I\u2019m from Georgia, he\u2019s our governor and so forth, so on, and if you look at what happened back then, we had some economy down, we had the case of Watergate still all over the place, people, I think, were just tired of the status quo in Washington, same old faces. And here comes Mr. Carter with his fresh face and fresh outlook and promising this and going to do that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And he\u2019s very smart. They said he was very cool, calm — and they even talked about what a great religious man he was.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly. And he appealed to minorities being from the south, and he\u2019s good and all that. He went through there and got himself elected, and stayed one term, and we all know what happened during that term, I hope. Your listeners will look back and see about the double-digit inflation, the crazy mortgage rates. <\/p>\n

RUSH: They know about it. It was called a misery index. We had to create a misery index to tell us how miserable we were, \u2019cause it was rotten, 12% interest rates, inflation, or a maybe even higher, inflation was 18 — nah, maybe interest rates — whatever, unemployment was sky-high. It was a mess. It was absolutely horrible. And that, by the way, is one of the central factors that gave us Ronaldus Magnus. So you might say, ‘Well, okay, Obama is going to come in, if he wins, going to destroy everything and give us a new Republican in 2012.\u2019 Can\u2019t count on that. This guy has got to be defeated now. We can\u2019t afford this guy in any number of ways, ladies and gentlemen. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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