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RUSH: This is Jerry in Atlanta, nice to have you on the program, sir. Welcome.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush, first time I ever talked to you, but I\u2019ve been listening to you for a long time.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, hey, one of my concerns is and what I want to share is that not all Democrats are like what you\u2019re saying. And my concern is, I\u2019m very concerned about energy policy, and I think it should be a strategic element in our security of our country. And the example I used is, if I use the example of what JFK did when he said in his speech in the early sixties to send a man to the moon and back, we did that in nine years, and that wasn\u2019t even a viable concept. I mean what we did to overcome this was remarkable. And what I\u2019m saying today is we need to work not only as Democrats and Republicans, but as citizens, American citizens, we need to get the energy policy back where it belongs in our neighborhoods and our country and have control of it, not to be shipped. So the answer is, it\u2019s not just drilling. Sir, we have to do everything possible to attack this issue, and the concern I have is not just blaming a Democrat, a Republican. I\u2019m blaming all our government right now because we\u2019re not working as a team. If this is a football team, we\u2019d never score a touchdown, would we, Rush?<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, but we\u2019d have a lot of safeties.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, I guess we would.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, we don\u2019t work as a team. Where do you compromise? Where do the Republicans compromise with a guy like Obama who said in his speech on energy today, ‘We need to end the age of oil in our time?\u2019 Where do you compromise with that?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, my point is we have to have oil. I mean, I\u2019m in the airline industry out here, we have to have oil, the transportation industry, the trucking — there\u2019s no way we\u2019re going to get out of oil. But what I\u2019m concerned about is the dependency of our oil. We can\u2019t depend on foreign dictators and so forth for our oil needs. We have to do that here in our country. We need to become a self-sufficient country. We have to attack it all ways.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, look, I hate to remind you here, but this has been the Republican Party\u2019s identity since the early nineties. Drilling in ANWR, offshore, all this, it\u2019s the Democrats, Bill Clinton first vetoing ANWR, the Democrats are standing in the way of this. Look it, how do you feel as a Democrat? You\u2019re in the airline business. The airline business is in dire straits. The airlines, combined, just parked 450 jets. It\u2019s the only way they can save on fuel.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Your guy is not proposing one plan to increase the supply of fuel to your aircraft.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I agree, and what I\u2019m saying is that I\u2019ve been very much involved in a few savings programs with the airline I\u2019m working for. It\u2019s up to over $2 million a month just in fuel savings. And if you\u2019re familiar with the APU, the auxiliary power unit, it\u2019s something I was very much involved with with the airline in a major reduction program. I\u2019ve been doing this for over two years now, with the company. And it worked. And it works by working with Republicans and Democrats and Independents and so forth, it was a team effort, and I —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, this is a huge point. The government — Republicans, Democrats — had diddly-squat to do with your APU project. You and your company came up with a private sector solution. If you\u2019d have brought Washington in, yeah, you\u2019d have had partisan divisions over this. The Democrats would have stood in your way.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Okay, so what\u2019s the big push here? We need to do everything possible to find alternatives. That\u2019s what Obama said in his stupid speech today. Oh, really? Really? We need to do everything possible to find alternatives? Well, who\u2019s responsible for doing that? The oil companies are in the business of finding, refining, and transporting oil. They are not in the business of solar or wind energy. That\u2019s not their business. If Boone Pickens wants to go into wind, let him go into wind. That\u2019s the way this works. When moving from one generation of inventions to another, if the demand in prices makes alternatives more likely, then it spawns and motivates people to work and think in ways they might not think otherwise. The government demanding alternatives or picking winners and losers won\u2019t do it and can\u2019t do it. This is the genius of the market. It works itself out. <\/p>\n

If alternative fuels, ladies and gentlemen, are out there for the taking, then why isn\u2019t the rest of the world already on it? And how about all these so-called alternatives, the biofuels that we already have? Like ethanol. We already have the unintended consequences of that and even some of the proponents of this way down the road, way back when, are starting to think it was a mistake. This whole business of energy creation and usage, growth, freedom, opportunity, is far more complicated and complex a matter than the Obamas and his ilk comprehend or even care to comprehend, and the reason is that he\u2019s into political power, not energy production. He\u2019s into political manipulation. He\u2019s into getting votes, not energy production. That\u2019s why the government ought to have nothing to do with this. And yet, look, the only people among us who produce a drop of energy, spend the money to go get it, refine it, market it, distribute it, sell it, they\u2019re the ones under attack, and yet the government couldn\u2019t do it, wouldn\u2019t do it, would botch it if it tried, somehow is looked at as the white knight here. <\/p>\n

Here\u2019s Ann in Angelica, New York, nice to have you on the EIB Network.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hello.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: First-time caller, longtime listener.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019ve come to a conclusion that in order to save energy, seeing as I\u2019m low income, I can put some aluminum pie plates on top of my car, get a giant pinwheel and stick it on the back of my car, slow down to 55 miles an hour so everybody flies by me, keeps my pinwheel going, and hook it up to a battery somehow and then line up at McDonald\u2019s to get their used oil. How does that work?<\/p>\n

RUSH: It won\u2019t.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Why?<\/p>\n

RUSH: It won\u2019t. In the first place, you\u2019re going to put a little pinwheel propeller on the back of your car and you expect what\u2019s going to propel you to 55 miles an hour to get you to McDonald\u2019s?<\/p>\n

CALLER: All the people flying by me. (laughing) <\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, the people flying by you would provide a head wind that would lead you and your little propeller, your little pinwheel on the back of your car — (laughing) <\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I\u2019ll put one on my beanie, too.<\/p>\n

RUSH: (laughing) Well, don\u2019t forget to inflate your tires.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I forgot that, overinflate them.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, you need to inflate your tires properly and avoid jackrabbit starts and all these other things.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Ann, thanks much for the call.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Al in Colorado Springs, Colorado, the home of Jennifer of Colorado Springs, welcome, Al, nice to have you here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hello, Rush. I\u2019d like to say hello to my staff sergeant Ryan Bland, a cav scout out of Fort Riley. He\u2019s going to do his third tour pretty soon. I\u2019m calling about Dubai. I saw a special on either Dateline or 60 Minutes. They interviewed the gentleman that runs Dubai.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That would be Sheikh al-Maktoum.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, great guy.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Spent the weekend at Camp David with President Bush.<\/p>\n

CALLER: (laughing) <\/p>\n

RUSH: He did.<\/p>\n

CALLER: He should have been. Bush might have got a few hot tips from this guy. As you know, they are tax-free. The interviewer was kind of incredulous. Next thing, they talked about how they were dredging the ocean floor to build these false islands.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yes.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And the interviewer said, ‘I understand that you were told by the environmentalists that you couldn\u2019t do this and that you threw them out,\u2019 and he looked at the guy, and he said, ‘Yeah, we did, and we\u2019re now building more islands.\u2019 And the man was once again taken back. And the gentleman that runs the place said, ‘Let\u2019s go take a drive,\u2019 so he goes down, he drives his own car, has the interview in the seat next to him, and of course the guy can\u2019t believe this, either, and you see nothing but success. They\u2019re building these towers, and even before they\u2019re built, they\u2019re 90% occupied. Major corporations from around the world are there. And you get the feeling that there\u2019s this big sucking sound of all the successful corporations that are tending to move towards Dubai and possibly Ireland.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, let me tell you, a couple things here. I have been to Dubai. I have seen what you are describing, and they are building these islands out in the water that defy explanation. It\u2019s true. They do not have any environmentalists. If an environmentalist pops up he will not be seen shortly thereafter. But it\u2019s only in a dictatorship that you can do that. Now, we could deal with our environmentalists a lot more successfully than we do in this country by just ignoring them. They would protest and do all this, but we\u2019re so bound by political correctness. But we don\u2019t want to turn ourselves into a dictatorship, but one interesting thing, you said this giant sucking sound. There\u2019s no question. Trump is building a hotel in Dubai. Maybe it\u2019s the Emirates. I talked to him about it. And it\u2019s same thing as you, so he doesn\u2019t have to put up with anybody standing in his way and increasing the price of the thing two or threefold.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And of course money is going to find, just like water, it\u2019s going to find the easiest path, the path of least resistance is where it\u2019s going to go. The more raising capital is made difficult, the higher the taxes on corporate profits, the more those profits are going to be made elsewhere. Now, there\u2019s a fascinating piece in the Wall Street Journal. It said, you know in the old days, instead of InBev buying Anheuser-Busch, St. Louis, it would have been the other way around. Anheuser-Busch would be buying InBev. Anheuser-Busch did buy a whole bunch of smaller breweries as they were growing. It said things are out of whack now. It pointed out that one of the reasons the Anheuser-Busch board of directors, the CEO, might have changed their mind about this is the corporate tax rate being promised by Obama. If you\u2019re on the board at Anheuser-Busch, if you\u2019re the CEO, if you\u2019re the Busch family and you want the company to stay viable, it may well be that — and essentially when you merge — this is a little bit lax, but you\u2019ll get the point — when you allow yourself to be bought out by InBev, you are in effect moving your headquarters. You\u2019re moving to Germany, or, in this case, Brussels, where the corporate tax is much smaller and your business can remain much more viable. And there are a lot of people already starting to make plans of this nature based on the promises that Obama has made regarding capital gains taxes, corporate profit taxes, and general income taxes, if he becomes president.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: To Houston, this is Ernest and we\u2019re glad to have you on the program, Ernest. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush. This is a great honor, Maha Rushie. And I just wanted to say earlier there was this guy on there talking about a team effort. That\u2019s just another way to water down conservatism. He\u2019s a liberal —<\/p>\n

RUSH: He was calling from Atlanta, is in the airline business.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And, you know, he\u2019s sick and tired of the bickering between Republicans and Democrats while solutions to problems go by the wayside and don\u2019t occur, and yet he cited an example where he and other pilots working with his airline on something to do with their auxiliary power unit, enabled them to save X-number of gallons or dollars\u2019 worth of fuel in a year. And I pointed out to him that the government had nothing to do with that effort.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: It didn\u2019t require teamwork. It requires economics and the free market.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, absolutely. And that\u2019s the main concept. And drilling is what\u2019s going to work, drilling is what\u2019s going to make our economy continue to be great. The other thing I just wanted to say very quickly is that for Barack Obama to say that 700 billion, you know, because I know that 700 billion has been thrown around by a lot of different people lately, that\u2019s my money, okay, the consumer, us, the American taxpayer, the consumers are the ones that made that possible, okay? Along with the free-market economy. And Americans need to wrap themselves around that concept. <\/p>\n

RUSH: You know something, market economics is not tough sufficiently in the lower levels of education, and barely in college. It\u2019s why I try to spend as much time on it as possible. Two things about his call. I wanted to have an addendum to his call after he hung up and I forgot to get to it, but this whole argument we gotta stop bickering, just all come together and stop playing politics, come up with solutions, it just sounds wonderful but here\u2019s my sincere question. If you\u2019re an average American, you\u2019re a citizen and you pay the average amount of time to the news over the course of living your life, since about 2002 — let\u2019s throw out 2000 and Florida aftermath — after 9\/11, and after the brief moment of time where we all were Kumbaya, working together and getting along for the week that that lasted, if you\u2019re paying scant attention to the news from 2002 to present, how in the world can you not conclude that the vast majority of the people bickering are liberal Democrats, that the vast majority of the people who are totally enraged and angry in this country are liberal Democrats? How can you actually look at George W. Bush and see somebody who has not tried to get along with the other side, letting Ted Kennedy write the education bill, working with other Democrats on immigration and other aspects to show that they can put all the bickering of the nineties behind us. <\/p>\n

The problem with working together is you must have a common objective. And this is the problem. I know this is going to sound extremely bold, ladies and gentlemen, but the objectives of free market conservatives and capitalists do not jibe, they do not mix with the objectives of today\u2019s leftist Democrat Party. So how in the world can you work together? Look, we want to increase the supply of oil. We know that there are gazillions of barrels of oil in shale and offshore waiting to be drilled, waiting to be mined and waiting to be refined and we want to do this for a whole host of reasons, so we\u2019re not as dependent on other sources of oil, so there will be more supply and the price will come down, and that it will have a little insurance here against dependence on other people, for something that\u2019s crucial. A country cannot get along without oil. On the other side, we had just today heard the Democrat Party\u2019s presidential nominee has declared war on oil. We\u2019ve got a new platitude, ‘We must end the age of oil in our lifetime.\u2019 Now, you tell me, ladies and gentlemen, where in hell we compromise and come up with an answer that we can all be happy about. <\/p>\n

When one political party wants — at least based on what they say — wants to do everything they can to demonize oil and demonize energy — by the way, energy itself now is a demon, energy is polluting the planet, destroying the planet, global warming, climate change, all this stuff, when one political party wants to advance its ideals to enhance and enrich themselves and increase their own power at the expense of the liberty of individual citizens, and one political party or one movement wants to do everything it can to deregulate and get obstacles out of people\u2019s way so that they can use their ambition and become the best they can be, where is the compromise? Where do the two sides go to sit down and talk, once they get there, what do they talk about and how do they get along? The differences in the views of the future for this country and the world held by conservatives and leftists is stark. It\u2019s 180 degrees out of phase, they\u2019re diametrically opposed. The leftists in this country see an imperfect America in a constant state of decline that is deserved. Conservatives see an opportunity for continued growth and prosperity for children and grandchildren to maintain this as the greatest nation for the good of all humanity in the history of the world. <\/p>\n

When one side sees their own country as the problem, and the other side sees their country as the solution, somebody tell me where we go to start getting along with that. It\u2019s like trying to compromise between victory and defeat. How do you do it? Do you postpone defeat for two years? Does the left say, ‘Okay, we\u2019ll let you win in ten\u2019? Or, ‘We\u2019ll let you win halfway?\u2019 Where do you compromise? There\u2019s no room for compromise here. What has to happen is defeat. You have to understand the concept of good guys and bad guys, and the right is the good guys. As to this 700 billion that the caller referenced, this is how much we supposedly spend. The phrase is, ‘United States spends 700 billion a year buying oil from terrorist dictators who want to wipe us out.\u2019 Fine. Who\u2019s spending the 700 billion? I asked this question in the first hour of today\u2019s extremely relevant, poignant, penetrating program, who is spending the 700 million to buy oil from foreign sources? I want you people to think about it and come up with an answer. Who\u2019s spending that money?<\/p>\n

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RUSH: John in Wilmington, North Carolina, welcome, sir, to the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Hey.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Congratulations in advance on the next 20.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate that.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I just want to paint a little visual for you here. If oil is such a demon, can you imagine what we\u2019d all be like right now if we were still riding horses? That\u2019s pretty much the same principle of what they\u2019re talking about with solar and wind right now with the technology they have at hand.<\/p>\n

RUSH: This is true, but they\u2019re doing a little bit more subtly than that, because while they\u2019re on this big push to demonize energy and oil, carbon footprint energy, as Obama said today, we must end the age of oil in our lifetimes, so we gotta get rid of oil, but they don\u2019t want you thinking of what you would do without it because they have people believing that somebody has the secret to alternative fuels. We\u2019re just not telling anybody what it is. The oil companies and the automobile companies are conspiring to keep this really remarkable new magical energy off the market so they can reap profits on the backs of the poor American consumer, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the fact is, you\u2019re right, there is not anything even close, there\u2019s nothing on the drawing board. There\u2019s nothing in anybody\u2019s brilliant mind yet that even comes close to replacing oil and what oil does and how it is used. There is nothing. Here we\u2019ve got Gore saying get rid of it in ten years. Here we\u2019ve got Obama saying, end the age of oil in our lifetimes. I don\u2019t care what you come up with, there\u2019s no way you\u2019re going to power your automobile with a solar panel. You\u2019re not going to power it with a windmill or a propeller on the back of it that has no other source of energy. It ain\u2019t happening. And most of the cities in America will not let you drive a horse through their streets with the horse dropping manure every five blocks spreading disease all around. It isn\u2019t going to happen, folks.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s nothing out there and yet the Democrat Party en masse is doing everything they can to prevent the exploration, discovery of more oil, when there is nothing on the horizon even in the most brilliant mind out there that could replace it. I don\u2019t know. The common sense of all this is so plainly visible and easy to grasp, and yet it seems to escape a lot of people. On the other hand, I look at the polling data, and I see that Obama is now even with McCain. If you throw in the leaners, McCain\u2019s up 47-46. If you throw in likely voters, McCain\u2019s doing even better than that. Whatever these platitudes of Obama\u2019s are, they\u2019re not connecting. He had a 15-point lead not long ago. He got no bump, got just exact opposite of a bump coming out of Germany and that whole foreign tour. In fact, it hurt him. These pronouncements he\u2019s making while we have the Drive-Bys proclaiming he\u2019s something special, something unique, something that\u2019s never before happened in American politics, he\u2019s not. He\u2019s just a traditional, standard, radical leftist who\u2019s come out of the Chicago machine. There\u2019s nothing new about him whatsoever, and if he doesn\u2019t have a 10- to 15-point lead going into late October, he\u2019s toast, because I\u2019ll make you this prediction. If they\u2019re tied at 46, 47, whatever it is right now, that\u2019s going to equal the McCain plus 50 percentage point win, because this election is a referendum on Obama. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: John in Libertyville, Illinois. Hello, sir. We have one minute, but I wanted to get to you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi. You\u2019ve always been a big proponent of the inefficient vehicle, the gas guzzler, the SUV, what have you, and you\u2019ve steadfastly maintained that the only thing at work in the high gas prices is supply and demand. But if fuel-inefficient vehicles demand more fuel and therefore reduce the supply, isn\u2019t the supply-demand argument roughly analogous to saying we\u2019re all paying more at the pump because of the preponderance of inefficient vehicles?<\/p>\n

RUSH: So, because I have a gas hog, and I use a lot more gas than you do, I am affecting supply and demand; therefore, supply would be much greater if I would join you in getting an efficient car and the price would come down? Is that your theory?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Sure. I think we\u2019re all paying more at the pump because of the preponderance — <\/p>\n

RUSH: But then you don\u2019t have a free market because somebody\u2019s gotta apply pressure on me to get me to drive something I don\u2019t want to drive. Besides, when that happens, sir, your gasoline taxes, state gasoline taxes, are going to go up, because they\u2019re not going to be receiving as much revenue. There\u2019s no win here, sir. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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