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RUSH: Operation Chaos continued last night on CNN. Wolf Blitzer was on The Situation Room, talking with James Carville, who is a Hillary advisor; and also Barack Obama advisor Tom Daschle. Blitzer says, ‘Hey, James, what about the argument that Senator Daschle makes here that there would be disenfranchised voters if you don\u2019t have these two do-overs?\u2019<\/p>\n

CARVILLE: You have a primary, you let people vote. Have a Democratic primary! Let Democrats vote. Anybody that\u2019s watching this show can see that I, and Senator Clinton, want to have a primary and let people in Michigan decide! Anybody can see — as good a man as Senator Daschle is and as fine as Senator Obama is — they don\u2019t have it because they would lose it! <\/p>\n

DASCHLE: (softly trying to interrupt)<\/p>\n

CARVILLE: And that\u2019s the wrong signal to send out. He doesn\u2019t want to have this for a simple fact he would lose, just like he would lose in Florida. Now, if the Democratic nominee is afraid to face a primary of Democratic voters, can you imagine what the general election would be like? <\/p>\n

DASCHLE: Well, that\u2019s the —<\/p>\n

CARVILLE: Senator Obama ought to show strength, and say, ‘You know what? I want to run this thing,\u2019 and put up half the money.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, so Carville just said Obama\u2019s a coward. Daschle\u2019s a coward. They don\u2019t have the guts to rerun Michigan and Florida because they know that Obama would lose. Blitzer said to the Puffster, ‘Those are some strong words out there, Tom Daschle.\u2019<\/p>\n

DASCHLE: They are strong words, and they\u2019re totally wrong. They\u2019re totally wrong. He doesn\u2019t know whether we\u2019d win or lose. We\u2019ve won more states than Hillary across the country. All over the country. We can probably win that one as well. We\u2019re not backing away from a contest. We\u2019ve been involved in contests all over — the real question is do you allow everybody to vote? The Clinton people say no. Do you, can you put this together in a way that would satisfy all the legal requirements? The Clinton people acknowledge that is not possible. They\u2019re willing to accept a flawed election. I would call it a kitchen sink strategy. They\u2019re prepared to use the kitchen sink if they have to, to win this, and they\u2019ll do it however they think they can do it to their great advantage. This isn\u2019t gonna work in large measure because it\u2019s not administrated.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I have never heard Daschle that agitated! I have never heard him speak that fast. I have never heard him that animated, because he\u2019s just been called a coward by James Carville, and so that\u2019s caused him to lash out at Carville and Clinton. So Carville shot back with this.<\/p>\n

CARVILLE: Anybody watching the show can see what it is. I came on this show, offered to put up half the money. Obama people didn\u2019t want to do it. Their lobbyists were working in Lansing with everything they could, working in Florida with everything they could to prohibit Floridians and Michigan from having an opinion in this. It\u2019s very clear we cannot go into the general election if our nominee doesn\u2019t want to face Democratic voters, and that\u2019s what\u2019s happening here. I\u2019m all for it. We\u2019re willing to put up the money. Governor Rendell —<\/p>\n

DASCHLE: That\u2019s a complete — complete mischaracterization.<\/p>\n

BLITZER: A lot of people look at this, Senator Daschle, and they say, ‘You know, this is not a complicated ballot.\u2019<\/p>\n

CARVILLE: Yeah.<\/p>\n

BLITZER: ‘You have Hillary Clinton, you have Barack Obama, you have a box. You check which one you like and you put the ballot in the box and you count the ballots.\u2019<\/p>\n

DASCHLE: If you tell everybody, Wolf, that they can vote — if you tell Armed Forces personnel and people who aren\u2019t in Michigan that they can vote; if you tell people who voted the last time after they were told it was a meaningless vote, that they can vote — then I think we can talk about it. But they are all off the table. They\u2019re saying, ‘We want to vote, but we just want to select the people that we can have a vote for,\u2019 and that isn\u2019t going to work.<\/p>\n

CARVILLE: Again you can hear the fear. <\/p>\n

DACHLE: There\u2019s no fear!<\/p>\n

CARVILLE: You can hear the fear.<\/p>\n

DASCHLE: It\u2019s fairness.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Operation Chaos! This is James Carville and Tom Daschle you\u2019ve been listening to, duking it out; one of them calling the other a coward, and then say (doing Carville impression), ‘You can hear the fear! You can hear the fear!\u2019<\/p>\n

(doing Daschle impression) ‘It\u2019s not fear, Tom. It\u2019s fairness.\u2019<\/p>\n

Operation Chaos. Absolutely! It\u2019s desperation time on both sides! You know, Hillary has taken the weekend off. Hillary is up in Chappaqua. The political term for it is, she\u2019s gone dark. She\u2019s gone down. Her campaign\u2019s down. She\u2019s not participating in anything this weekend. Obama is out there doing anything he can to escape the race stuff that happens this week. That\u2019s why he got his endorsement here from Bill Richardson. But his numbers are nose-diving. His numbers are taking a plunge, and he\u2019s losing white support. But the point is, he can afford right now to lose because Hillary can\u2019t win no matter what happens here. All that can happen is, the last shot that Hillary has at this is if Obama loses so much momentum from here on out that she gets enough votes to claim the popular vote winner in all of these primaries, and then say, ‘Look at the big states I won,\u2019 and then go to the super voters, the superdelegates and say, ‘Look, he\u2019s lost his momentum. He blew it up on the race business. We can\u2019t have our nominee with this reverend on television every day during the general campaign. This guy is a ticket to the Democrat Party\u2019s defeat.\u2019 That\u2019s her hope, and I\u2019m sure that\u2019s what she\u2019s working on up there in Chappaqua. Meanwhile, Obama is trying to stanch the bleeding by trying to get everybody off the subject of race, and if he wants to do that — and this is going to be very, very difficult — he better not say another word about it for the foreseeable future. He said everything he\u2019s going to say. But here\u2019s the problem with that. <\/p>\n

(doing reporter impression) ‘Senator Obama, what about what you said on Philadelphia radio about your grandmother?\u2019 <\/p>\n

(doing Obama impression) ‘I\u2019ve answered that. I\u2019m not answering those questions anymore,\u2019 and walk off. <\/p>\n

Most people don\u2019t get away with that in a presidential campaign. So regardless, folks, (laughter) Operation Chaos is exceeding all objectives, and it just keeps getting better.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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