{"id":27731,"date":"2007-12-06T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T04:35:10","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T04:35:10","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T04:35:10","slug":"pmsnbc_attacks_rush_on_nie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2007\/12\/06\/pmsnbc_attacks_rush_on_nie\/","title":{"rendered":"PMSNBC Attacks Rush on NIE"},"content":{"rendered":"<section>\n<p>RUSH: I was called on the carpet and criticized last night at PMSNBC for my take on the NIE. Dan Abrams all upset that I am attacking the bureaucrats who wrote the NIE, because suddenly now, see, when the intelligence comes out and it fits their worldview, fits their political view, what they want things to be, then it\u2019s unquestionably accurate, and it\u2019s just not right to assail it. Here\u2019s a portion of Dan Abrams and my take on the NIE.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125110.Par.89380.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"234\" class=\"alignright\"\/>ABRAMS: So upset by the finding of the 16 US intelligence agencies and knowing how much that undermines the administration\u2019s credibility and the case for war against Iran, there\u2019s now a growing course from the right attacking the messenger. The Wall Street Journal editorial board cites an anonymous official who criticized the three former State Department officials who coauthored the National Intelligence Estimate as hyperpartisan anti-Bush officials. Rush Limbaugh saying, &#8216;You gotta examine motives and the intent of the people at the NIE,\u2019 and conservative commentator Norman Podhoretz wrote, &#8216;It\u2019s calculated to undermine George W. Bush.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Okay, so how is Abrams going to deal with this? How is Dan Abrams of PMS going to deal with this building controversy? Well, he went out and invited on his show well-known defense strategist and intelligence expert Arianna Huffington to whom he asked, &#8216;Some of these far right-wingers seem to be saying, &#8216;Oh, well, you know what? We just can\u2019t trust the NIE at all.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>HUFFINGTON: It is absolutely unbelievable, Dan, because here you have 16 agencies &#8212; this is not just one isolated individual &#8212; this is the agencies that compromise our main intelligence apparatus, and the Wall Street Journal, of course, refers to them constantly as bureaucracies because that immediately implies that they are wrong. To attack them in that way is simply unbelievable.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I needed a Greek translator for some of that. Really? Sounded like Green Acres &#8212; oh, Zsa Zsa Gabor. We\u2019re watching Green Acres. That\u2019s right, Eddie Albert and the pitchfork. Exactly right. Anyway, that\u2019s noted intelligence expert Arianna Huffington explaining away the far right-wing doubts of this. And now here is Abrams back in another excerpt.<\/p>\n<p>ABRAMS: Here\u2019s Rush &#8212; speaking of unreality, here\u2019s what Rush Limbaugh said about it today.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH ARCHIVE: Exactly what a number of people have suspected is certainly true here. You have some disgruntled State Department people, one of them actively pursuing a program of allowing the Iranians to enrich uranium sabotage &#8212; unhappy with the Bush administration. It\u2019s exactly the kind of thing that I suspected and feared yesterday.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Unreality, he said? We know who the three people that wrote the NIE are. You can check on their activities. One of them has a grudge, particularly that his Iranian recommendations haven\u2019t been listened to. Unreality? This is what you get on a show with an audience of 180,000.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125110.Par.4584.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"239\" class=\"alignright\"\/>One more sound bite, ladies and gentlemen, on the EIB Network here from Live With Dan Abrams last night. It was during a roundtable on PMSNBC. He spoke with Cliff May, who is president of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Cliff May also contributes at National Review Online. Abrams said, &#8216;See, Cliff, this, to me, is where we get the difference between honest conservatives and dishonest conservatives, okay? To me, you can have a consistent position which is, &#8216;You know what, I believed the NIE when we went into Iraq; I believe the evidence that we\u2019ve gathered, et cetera.\u2019 To me the dishonest ones are the ones that pick and choose what they like and what they don\u2019t like.\u2019 Before I play Mr. May\u2019s answer, do you realize the hypocrisy contained in the question? I believed the NIE when we went into Iraq? Do you still, Mr. Abrams? You believed the weapons of mass destruction intelligence back then but now we\u2019ve learned that there wasn\u2019t any to speak of to be found (in Iraq, anyway), you still believe it? You have no reason to be&#8230; (interruption) Excuse me just a second, folks. Is it getting worse in there for Snerdley? I told you: You know in five seconds if it\u2019s going to work or not. Don\u2019t argue with them. Just zap \u2019em and move on to the next call. He\u2019s taking off the jacket. <\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s getting serious in there. (chuckles) Poor guy. I knew when the subject of religion came up, what was going to happen. Don\u2019t argue with them. It isn\u2019t worth it. Just say, &#8216;Thanks,\u2019 hang up, and move on to the next caller. Ladies and gentlemen, I\u2019m sorry to have to conduct the behind-the-scenes aspect of the program on your time. We need a Dittocam on Snerdley so people can see this. It\u2019s impossible to hook up. All right. I have not lost my place. That\u2019s good. Just keep drinking the water and don\u2019t answer the phone for a couple minutes. I can handle it in here. He believed the NIE when it said there were weapons of mass destruction. Now we\u2019ve been told that there were no weapons of mass destruction, at least in Iraq. Does he still believe the NIE? He wants to say he\u2019s consistent because he believed it then and he believes it now. But they were wrong, once, way back, and, by the way, after that, that\u2019s when Bush became a &#8216;liar,\u2019 and Bush and Cheney were cooking the books! In fact, it wasn\u2019t the NIE\u2019s fault at all. It was Bush and Cheney, those dastardly, Snidely Whiplashes, who are out there making these brilliant, brave, and courageous intelligence people&#8230;lie! Here\u2019s what Cliff May said in response to Dan Abrams\u2019 question.<\/p>\n<p>MAY: Let me take a position; you tell me if it\u2019s honest or dishonest. &#8216;The intelligence community was wrong about the nuclear weapons programs so far of Iraq, of North Korea, of Libya, also of Syria. So maybe, maybe, they\u2019re wrong on this.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>ABRAMS: (snorts) Ugh. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>MAY: I am worried that once again we\u2019re getting this wrong, and I don\u2019t want to be complacent &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>ABRAMS (squeaking): I don\u2019t want to be&#8230;! Look&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>MAY: about the worst regime getting nuclear weapons. <\/p>\n<p>ABRAMS: Right.<\/p>\n<p>MAY: I\u2019m more worried about Ahmadinejad than President Bush. I\u2019m a minority in this crowd, perhaps.<\/p>\n<p>ABRAMS: I\u2019m very worried about Ahmadinejad &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>MAY: Good!<\/p>\n<p>ABRAMS: &#8212; and Arianna, to me, that\u2019s not the question, though. I\u2019m worried about Ahmadinejad. I don\u2019t know&#8230; I &#8212; I would assume that you would say you are, too. I view him as a threat to this country.<\/p>\n<p>HUFFINGTON: Absolutely.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Why? If he shut down his nuclear program, Zsa Zsa, why in the world are you worried about him? And Abrams, why are you worried? They just shut down the nuclear program, and you believe the NIE! Why are you worried about Ahmadinejad? He\u2019s just this little guy that needs a stepladder to get to the urinal. Who could he possibly threaten? He\u2019s just got a little country over there just trying to survey in the Israeli-US infested, Zionist world. Everybody is putting out contracts and hits and so forth. He\u2019s just this little guy trying to bring his nation from the Third World into modernity. I mean, why do you fear Ahmadinejad? See, May caught \u2019em. Look, you guys, I\u2019m more worried about Ahmadinejad&#8230;. Oh, oh, oh, yeah! We are, too. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. I\u2019m wrong about the audience of 180,000. The audience Abrams\u2019 show is 15, five of whom are family members.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: I was called on the carpet and criticized last night at PMSNBC for my take on the NIE. 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