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<\/a><\/p>\nRUSH: That is an excellent question — or that you were gonna put a spy. Even if you\u2019re gonna warn Trump and say, “Hey, we\u2019re gonna put somebody in, don\u2019t be alarmed. We\u2019re gonna track this down.” Yeah. A great point. The answer to your question, which is a great, great brilliant question forged from a brilliant memory. He has remembered everything about this. Comey did say publicly — along with the rest of the intelligence community — “Well, you know, Trump was telling us he didn\u2019t need a daily intelligence brief \u2019cause he has a good memory.<\/p>\n
He said, “How much could it change day-to-day?” He didn\u2019t need to talk to them every day. Trump was all — and that ticked them off, by the way. Because most presidents, the first thing they do every morning is get that brief with the intel people or the intel people put it together and then the representative — the CIA director, Director of National Intelligence, somebody — briefs the president. Jimmy Carter, for example had Zbigniew Brzezinski at 7:30 in the Oval Office. The first meeting Jimmy Carter had every day was with Brzezinski, his national security adviser.<\/p>\n
And Trump\u2019s out here saying, “I don\u2019t need to talk to these guys every day. That ticked them off. I mean, that takes them down a peg or two on the ladder, rung of importance. So they used this dossier for two purposes, is the real answer to your question out here, Marty. They publicly said that they wanted to show Trump evidence from this dossier. Comey told Trump about the pee — you know, the golden showers — story. Because they needed to show Trump the kind of stuff that\u2019s out there that he needs to know about every day. Even though this wasn\u2019t true!<\/p>\n
Even though this had not been verified or corroborated, Comey said they needed Trump to know the kind of stuff that\u2019s out there so that he could be equipped and properly prepared and informed and all that. But that was not the reason Comey did this. Your question is quite logical, and Comey did say — and the intelligence people did say — publicly that they were trying to get Trump to understand the kind of despicable stuff that could be out there that he needs to be aware of. They wanted to warn him. They wanted to protect him.<\/p>\n
So if that\u2019s the case, then why not extend the protection and warn him that there might be Russians attempting to infiltrate his campaign? It\u2019s a great question. But the answer is that that\u2019s not really why Comey told Trump about the golden-showers story at all. There\u2019s only one reason Comey took that story up there and that\u2019s because he was ordered to by James Clapper, who probably was getting his orders from John Brennan. Not that Comey needed orders, but he accepted them. He referred to this in several interviews as his “assignment.”<\/p>\n
He said, “My assignment was to tell the president about” the golden showers state. The reason for this was so that Comey could then tell Clapper, “Okay. Mission accomplished. My assignment has been accomplished. Trump knows!” That allowed Clapper to then call CNN and say, “Okay, we told the president. He knows about it.” That made it a news story, and that is what facilitated the reporting of the dossier as news every day thereafter. That is why Comey did this. He did not do this to protect Trump. They were trying to nail Trump.<\/p>\n
They wanted that dossier to be true! They were running it down, hoping as much of it be true as possible, when in fact they haven\u2019t been able to corroborate any of it. Even at this date, they haven\u2019t been able to. So Comey tells Trump, Trump has it, Comey calls Clapper, “Mission accomplished,” Clapper calls CNN. “Okay. The president knows about the golden showers and the dossier.” CNN four days later runs this gigantic story on the dossier that\u2019s been floating around Washington for many months. And a little over a year later, they got an award for this story for great journalism, when they were handed a scoop that they were complicit in by James Clapper.<\/p>\n
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RUSH: Edward in Atlanta. Great to have you, sir. How are you doing?<\/p>\n
CALLER: Hey, Rush. Let me just say, first of all, I want to say thank you, \u2019cause I have learned a lot from you. And one of the things that I always do when you say certain things, is “Let me go look it up, or let me go listen to what was said,” and I\u2019ve learned a lot. Now, in regard to Trey Gowdy, I feel people should really trust him. That guy, he don\u2019t always let his cards out, but he kind of moves in silence.<\/p>\n
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And then by the time you see him, it\u2019s like, “Surprise!” Just like even for him to have retired, look at how it occurred. And I say… This also what I would say. My suggestion for Trump would be, once they come to the end of this investigation, what he should do is get on the bully pulpit, hold a one-hour — \u2019cause, you know, everyone else, they not gonna handle him failing. And he need to lay out what happened, what occurred, and what went wrong.<\/p>\n
And because of this, what I think the left side now understand… They have given him eight years in the White House because of this. And what I would do is once I lay out that, I guess, like Ross Perot? Remember how he used to have those charts? I would lay out what occurred and I would post it to the actual White House page. So when he leave office (unintelligible) calm down. But the whole time, leave it there and I will reference anybody who wants to see what the findings were, including with the video clip and the people who said different things when they said it.<\/p>\n
Just refer it on there. And not only that, I even took the time to go through the FBI.com, the frequently asked questions. It said, “What is your role in the investigation?” They said their role is to “vet information that is then sent to the attorney general or the Department of Justice,” and then then I go over to what\u2019s the FISA application. They said come from that comes from between them and the NSA, once it\u2019s vetted, it then go through the process. So I sit here, as I find it and as I talk with people I pull out my phone — and again, it\u2019s not like left or right. It\u2019s just the FBI and what is the FISA process. I just did Google and I read to them —<\/p>\n
RUSH: Hang on. I lost there when you switched to the Clintons. I was expecting to hear you make a case and why we should trust Trey Gowdy. And I know you said the president when it\u2019s all over needs to make a statement, a one-hour explanation to the country. Let me tell you what\u2019s gonna happen here. However this ends, and whenever it ends, the report on this is gonna be written by Mueller. Mueller will submit his report to Rosenstein. Rosenstein will then decide what to do with it.<\/p>\n
It will automatically go to Congress, the House and the Senate. But whether or not we ever see it or a summary of it will be up to Rosenstein. Now, at this point we have to ask, “Wait a minute. If Rosenstein decides nobody\u2019s gonna see this or anything but an executive summary \u2019cause there\u2019s classified data in it,” then can Trump order it released? He is Mr. Executive Branch, and constitutionally, I would default to the position that, yeah, he can demand that it be released. But the chain of command per se in the Justice Department regulations for special counsel means it goes to Rosenstein.<\/p>\n
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It would go Sessions, but Sessions had recused himself; so he\u2019s got nothing to do with this. So in this case it will go to Rosenstein. Rosenstein will get the report. And we can make some educated guesses about it. We can safely conclude that the president won\u2019t be indicted. Well, I don\u2019t know about “safely.” I think these people are so off the rails that tradition and prior regulation may not even matter. But the Justice Department guidelines on this since 1973 are that a president cannot be indicted, and that is a constitutional judgment and assessment.<\/p>\n
And the reason for it is it would be too easy to tie up a president, to distract him if you could constantly… If enemies of the president could indict him every day for something, then he wouldn\u2019t have time to be president. So the remedy for getting rid of presidents is impeachment, and it\u2019s right there in the Constitution — and you should know that no president has ever been forced from office after a two-thirds vote to convict in the Senate. It has never happened.<\/p>\n
That\u2019s the second phase of impeachment. Impeachment is the House brings charges, they conduct the trial in the Senate, and the Senate is the jury, and they vote. And not a single president has been forced from office by virtue of a two-thirds vote in the Senate. It\u2019s never happened. Presidents have been forced to resign when it\u2019s clear to them they would lose such a vote. They resign before they get to that point (i.e., Nixon). So the standard now and since 1973 is that presidents cannot be indicted.<\/p>\n
Supposedly, Mueller has accepted that. Again, I don\u2019t put anything past these people. But let\u2019s just… Since we\u2019re hypothetically looking at this, let\u2019s assume that Mueller does not indict. There is going to be a massive report — and remember what this is. What it has always been is Get Trump 101. That\u2019s what this started out as. It actually started out as an effort to prevent Trump from winning. And after Trump won, then it became get Trump. So Mueller is gonna write this report. It\u2019s going to be extensive.<\/p>\n
It\u2019s gonna have detail here and there. It\u2019s gonna make The Starr Report look like your first grade Weekly Reader. Now, after that, and if Rosenstein — and I guarantee you, the pressure to release this thing is going to be relentless, because the left is gonna think that Mueller has the goods, that Mueller is going to reveal that Trump colluded with Putin. Believe me, folks, they still think it. Do not doubt me. Everybody in the media — producers, assignment editors, talent — they all believe it. To this day, they believe it.<\/p>\n
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They believe Trump stole the election. They cannot explain Hillary losing! It does not compute with them, intellectually. They still haven\u2019t come to grips with it. They still believe that Trump somehow rigged everything with the Russians. They believe it. That\u2019s what\u2019s guiding all of the coverage in the New York Times and the Washington Post and CNN and pretty much everywhere else in the media. They believe it. So when Mueller writes his report, it\u2019s not up to him whether we see it.<\/p>\n
It will be up to Rosenstein. And the left is going to be clamoring for it to be released, unless people leak to them, “No, you really don\u2019t want us to. There\u2019s not much here.” But intelligence guided by experience says this report that Mueller is gonna right is gonna get as close as he can to accusing Trump of all kinds of poor judgment, lackadaisical attention to detail. Whatever it is to make Trump look bad — and there won\u2019t be any evidence Trump collusion.<\/p>\n
Now, our caller says Trump needs to go on TV and present what really happened. He could do that. I don\u2019t think it\u2019s ever been done, which makes it a juicy prospect for Trump to do. Caller says he wants to see charts and graphs, NSA data here and all of that. You know, what did the FBI do? Who was involved in it? His point was the American people are gonna want to know what happened, put it to bed.<\/p>\n
But if that happens, I guarantee you, whatever Trump says when it comes to the Drive-Bys is gonna be ignored. The Mueller Report is going to become a bible, and anything Trump says that is in opposition to it or disagrees, they\u2019re gonna rake Trump over the coals and demand a new investigation! “Look at how Trump is lying! Look at how Trump is insulting Mueller! Trump is just… This man is despicable! We need a new investigation to find out why Trump thinks what he thinks.”<\/p>\n
Do not… Folks, do not doubt me. They believe all of this happened. They believe Trump hired the prostitutes to urinate on the bed. They believe Trump and Putin are best friends. They believe that everything the FBI is doing here is more than justified \u2019cause they think Trump did it. And they are always going to think Trump did it because they are incapable of accepting or acknowledging that they were beaten in an election.<\/p>\n
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RUSH: Now, our last caller also said that we need to trust Trey Gowdy. I had a problem yesterday, as those of you who were here recall, because I do trust Gowdy. I have. I like him, and I respect him. I think he has a brilliant mind. And I know a lot of people who know him well, sing his praises. And I was caught so off guard by his appearances.<\/p>\n
He was on Fox on Tuesday night, then CBS early Wednesday morning. And he was basically taking the side of the FBI. Says (paraphrasing), “Look. The FBI behaved exactly as every citizen would want them to behave. Once they learned that there were a couple peripheral people in the Trump campaign that might have been in contact with the Russians.” I said, “Wait a second.”<\/p>\n
That\u2019s when I spent some time going through how Papadopoulos was set up! Papadopoulos is the guy he\u2019s talking about! The FBI\u2019s running around saying, “Yeah, there\u2019s a Trump campaign guy talking about Hillary emails that the Russians have.” Well, Papadopoulos didn\u2019t know any of that until FBI employees, informants, whatever, told him!<\/p>\n
And the first guy that told him is a guy named Joseph Mifsud. And this is a mysterious character. And he\u2019s gone into hiding. Nobody knows where he is. He was the first to tell Papadopoulos that the Russians had thousands of Hillary emails. He\u2019s referred to as a Maltese academic. So he\u2019s a professor from Malta. And at this stage, the brightest minds still don\u2019t know what he was. There is a thought that he is a deeply embedded Russian spy. And if he is — I was reading Lee Smith at RealClearInvestigations<\/a> yesterday, did a piece on Mifsud, M-i-f-s-u-d.<\/p>\n And if he is indeed a deep-cover Russian spy, then, man, this is one of the deepest Russian penetrations into our FBI and CIA there\u2019s ever been, because he\u2019s in bed with these people. Some of his best friends are CIA, FBI, Stefan Halper. And there are people who think that he is a deep-cover Russian spy. If he is, he knows everything that the FBI\u2019s been trying to do here and may have even been steering it. But then there are others, “No, no, no, he\u2019s not a Russian spy. In fact, this guy is very sympathetic. He\u2019s close to the FBI.”<\/p>\n People don\u2019t know, but he\u2019s the guy that first informed Papadopoulos of this wives\u2019 tale that the Russians have thousands of Hillary emails. I can\u2019t figure out why Gowdy doesn\u2019t know this! The FBI clearly wants people to think that they were minding their own business one day and somebody told them that Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign person, was running around bragging to the Australian ambassador that they, the Trump campaign, know that the Russians have Hillary emails.<\/p>\n He only knows it because the FBI planted it in him. But Gowdy is acting like he believes the FBI side of this, that they didn\u2019t have anything to do with it and just discovered it and they got scared and thought, “Oh, my God, there might be a spy, this Papadopoulos kid, we need to be on the lookout.” It just didn\u2019t make any sense. Gowdy is smarter than that. Andy McCarthy\u2019s written about this<\/a>.<\/p>\n