{"id":27183,"date":"2007-10-17T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T04:50:09","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T04:50:09","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T04:50:09","slug":"we_re_winning_democrats_losing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2007\/10\/17\/we_re_winning_democrats_losing\/","title":{"rendered":"We\u2019re Winning; Democrats Losing"},"content":{"rendered":"<section>\n<p>RUSH: Folks, we are winning. I don\u2019t care what anybody says, we are winning. In fact, I\u2019ve got two stories to illustrate how we are winning. Here\u2019s the first: &#8216;Chances for a U.S. resolution calling the mass killings of Armenians that began in 1915 genocide eroded dramatically last night, as sponsors dropped off in droves and senior Democrats urged House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to abandon her support,\u2019 and they\u2019re not going to have the votes to override the president\u2019s S-CHIP veto either. Pelosi is just so bent out of shape; she\u2019s just had it. She\u2019s blaming the Senate for this &#8212; not the Armenian thing &#8212; but she\u2019s blaming the Senate for not having the guts to do anything; everything over there is languishing. She\u2019s got all these great contributions that she\u2019s made as speaker of the House Democrats, all these great accomplishments and achievements, but the Senate is slowing \u2019em down. So she\u2019s throwing the mud over there across the chamber at Dingy Harry. Everybody\u2019s just climbing on Dingy Harry, and they\u2019re climbing on her, too, but she\u2019s trying to deflect it all. <\/p>\n<p>&#8216;The number of lawmakers supporting the bill slipped below a majority as four more withdrew from the legislation.\u2019 This is the thing that nobody will convince me otherwise, that the Democrats, the leadership of the House, did this as a way of interrupting supplying routes to the troops in Iraq. This is the thing that Turkey has said, &#8216;You guys pass this resolution, you\u2019re messing with a friendly ally here. You\u2019re using our country to get supplies and materials to the troops, we\u2019re going to attack the Kurds in northern Iraq, screw you, this is how you treat your allies,\u2019 and the president said, &#8216;Don\u2019t do this.\u2019 They said, &#8216;We found some alternative supply lines and routes,\u2019 but it\u2019s silly to do this. Nobody will convince me that this was not a stealth way, a cowardly way of affecting negatively the success happening in Iraq vis-&amp;agrave;-vis the surge because everybody is now acknowledging it. The death tolls are down; Al-Qaeda is on the run. The Democrats politically cannot afford a victory; they cannot afford the perception of it, they are so invested in defeat. They cannot share in a victory and they know they can\u2019t because they\u2019ve never been on the side of winning. <\/p>\n<p>So if we do win, or if there\u2019s really positive news, there\u2019s no way Democrats with credibility can say, &#8216;We helped; we supported it.\u2019 They can\u2019t show up at any of the ceremonies welcoming the troops home because they\u2019ve tried to undermine \u2019em. So this was a stealth way and it\u2019s falling apart, and it\u2019s falling apart because we had the guts and the courage to tell the American people what this was all about. There\u2019s a reason why a bunch of Democrats are dropping off this thing like flies, and that is that there are some adults somewhere in that party who know it\u2019s suicide to be associated with turning around victory in the middle of it, or altering the success that it\u2019s taking and turning it negative, there\u2019s a price for that that they don\u2019t want to pay. So what Pelosi has been advised to do, senior Democrats urging Pelosi, by the way, who has a large population of ethnic Armenians in her district, just to declare victory with the committee vote and move away from the issue. This first was passed in a committee, then it goes to the full House, and that\u2019s where it\u2019s been bottled up. Look, just go out there and declare victory. You got your committee vote, declare victory, and move on. This is not a victory. This is another public humiliation. This is another defeat for Pelosi, who made a big deal about trying to lead her House Democrats to get this done, and she can\u2019t get it done.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Here\u2019s another story about how we\u2019re winning. Actually, there are maybe four of them altogether. Here\u2019s a story about how we\u2019re winning. &#8216;Morgan Stanley, the second-biggest shareholder in New York Times Co., sold its entire stake today, according to a person briefed on the transaction,\u2019 this sent the stock price at the New York Times Company &#8216;to its lowest in more than 10 years.\u2019 That would be a decade, for those of you in Rio Linda. &#8216;The person declined to be identified because Morgan Stanley hasn\u2019t made the sale public yet. Traders with knowledge of the transaction said Merrill Lynch &amp;amp; Co. sold New York Times stock worth $183 million in a block trade.\u2019 It has been known that &#8216;Hassan Elmasry, managing director of Morgan Stanley Investment Management, has unsuccessfully challenged the Sulzberger family\u2019s control of New York Times Co. through super-voting shares that give them control over the board. Shareholders owning 42 percent of the company, parent of the namesake newspaper and Boston Globe, withheld support from directors at the publisher\u2019s April annual meeting.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>What this means is there are two classes of stock, as I understand it, at the New York Times. The family owns one class, and nobody else who owns any of the other class has any votes on the board. So they\u2019re not going to lose control of the paper. But this Little Pinch is driving the price down of the stock. This is not going to make the family happy. This is the family\u2019s legacy. So the Little Pinch may end up being in some trouble at some point, but the family is not going to lose this paper. There\u2019s a conservative pipe dream that all this is going to lead to the family losing the paper. They\u2019re not going to sit by and just let this continue to happen.<\/p>\n<p>Another story about how we\u2019re winning. Bill Clinton\u2019s got this book. What\u2019s this book? &#8216;Giving.\u2019 Clinton has a book on charity which is basically how you give to him so that he can give to charity so he can look like he cares, and there were 750,000 copies of this book in the first printing, ladies and gentlemen. It has sold around 56,000 or 57,000. The book has tanked. With 750,000 copies, at least 650,000 to 700,000 are unsold. (laughter)<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s another one. The S-CHIP program. Even the New York Times has it. &#8216;Children\u2019s Health Bill Dispute Turns to Income Limits.\u2019 This story is all about admitting to the facts of my argument and a lot of other people that we\u2019ve been making here, that the people that the Democrats are trotting out to sell this massive expansion of the program are qualified already as the program is currently constituted. The president brought this up in his press conference. Let me see, I\u2019ve got the sound bite roster here of the president. President Bush held a news conference today, this morning. He really ate Pelosi\u2019s lunch in this press conference, by the way. Here\u2019s what he said about the S-CHIP program.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125115.Par.4584.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"182\" class=\"alignright\"\/>THE PRESIDENT: I made it abundantly clear why I have vetoed the bill. I find it interesting that when Americans begin to hear the facts, they understand the rationale behind the veto. First of all, there are 500,000 children who are eligible for the children program who aren\u2019t covered. And so to answer your question on how far I\u2019m willing to go, I want to provide enough money to make sure those 500,000 do get covered. That ought to be the focus of our efforts. I look forward to working with the Congress if my veto is upheld, to focus on those who are supposed to be covered.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah, and the New York Times story goes on and talks about how the income limits here are what\u2019s really at work here. You know, the federal limit is $62,000, families of four making $62,000. But states have the permission, because it\u2019s the State Children\u2019s Health Insurance Program. States are not prohibited from setting an $82,000 income level for a family of four. And this is just absurd. And the president made it clear in his press conference today that this program is being taken way beyond its original intention, and it\u2019s going to cost way more than anybody ever said. I\u2019m not going to sign it. For Democrats, this has been an interesting ten days. They\u2019re really taking a lot on the chin. They can\u2019t get what they want in Iraq. They can\u2019t get their S-CHIP thing done. They couldn\u2019t do their Armenian thing. Dingy Harry\u2019s smear letter backfired, biiiig time. That\u2019s why I say it\u2019s almost like the Republicans are more effective when they\u2019re in the minority. It\u2019s not that we\u2019re getting anything good done. We are preventing a whole lot of bad stuff, and I\u2019ve always maintained the Republicans were in the minority for so long they were much better at being in the minority than they were in the majority. Anyway, that\u2019s for another time. People have been patiently waiting. <\/p>\n<p>RUSH: This is Brian in Chicago. Hello, sir, and welcome to the program.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Thank you, Rush. It\u2019s an honor to talk to you. I love your optimism, but I gotta tell you from a guy coming from Chicago, I\u2019m mad as hell. You were talking earlier about people being happy and upset with their personal lives.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah, yeah.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Me, I\u2019m perfectly happy with my life. I do love my city of Chicago. I love the lake. I love everything going on in my life, but when it comes to the government, as anybody in the town can tell you, it\u2019s ridiculous. Between governor &#8212; we have Rod Blag-goof-oich as the governor here; we have Todd Stroger in Cook County, and then of course Mayor Daley in Chicago. It seems like whatever problems come up, the only possible answer is, &#8216;We need to raise taxes. There\u2019s nothing else we can possibly do. Nothing else can be cut. There\u2019s no way around it. Taxes have to go up.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, welcome to Democrats. You need to go next door and talk to people in Michigan.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Why is that?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, it\u2019s statewide in Michigan! You\u2019re just dealing with Chicago. Of course the state of Illinois is probably pretty high tax, too. But when they have budget, fiscal problems, raise taxes. Never ask whether the government can do with less. Never take that into account. It\u2019s just these are Democrats. This is what they do. This is how they do it.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: They\u2019re asking for more money. Today, there\u2019s a vote going on in the city whether or not they\u2019re going to ban smoking in all of the beaches and the recreational parks of the city. I\u2019m not a smoker myself, but all I see is taxes going up and people\u2019s rights going away. It depresses a person, Rush. It makes me sad. It makes me lose&#8230;you know?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, no. Look, I totally understand when your taxes go up, and I understand when your freedoms are encroached upon. Yeah, I understand. When they start intruding on your life this way &#8212; that\u2019s what I said. When they start getting involved in the private sector and interrupting things and screwing things up there, and the private sector would include you and your personal finances. No, I didn\u2019t mean to mislead you about this. I know exactly your frustration, and I share it, and I wish more and more people would, because getting rid of these kinds of people from elective office is the only way it\u2019s going to change.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Look at this, from the AP, just 19 minutes ago: &#8216;Representative Jack Murtha, a prominent Democrat, said Wednesday his party\u2019s leadership underestimated opposition to a resolution on Armenian genocide and conceded that such a vote would easily fail.\u2019 Look who they send out to make this announcement. They send out Jack Murtha to say it will fail. &#8216;They underestimated opposition&#8230;\u2019 that\u2019s not what happened, folks. Well, it probably is pretty accurate. What\u2019s happened on this is it\u2019s almost a repeat, without quite fanfare, of defeating the amnesty bill. People heard about this and flooded Congress. I probably was in error earlier when I said that there were probably some adults in the Democrat Party that realized what they\u2019re doing. I think they got hammered again on phones and in the e-mail. I keep telling you that they have no idea how they\u2019re perceived. They have no idea what people really think of what they say and do. This is another glaring example. They thought that they could get this done. They still live with this notion that they do have their monopoly. Even though they make targets out of members of the media, the new media that they oppose, they still act as though they have this monopolistic ability to get all this stuff done. <\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125115.Par.80288.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"200\" height=\"286\" class=\"alignright\"\/>So the Armenian thing is dead, and they\u2019ve sent Murtha out to say so. Jack Murtha, of all people. It\u2019s like Pelosi on this SCHIP thing. She talks about hate radio, and the AP carried her water in this story about hate radio. They quote me from October 8th, when I said, &#8216;This family owns a house in a neighborhood of homes valued in the 400,000 to $500,000 range. They send the kid out to lie. He\u2019s 12 years old. They\u2019ll use anybody; they\u2019ll corrupt anybody to get where they\u2019re headed. That\u2019s who they are, folks.\u2019 That\u2019s not attacking the kid. That\u2019s not attacking the family. That\u2019s attacking the Democrats. She calls it hate radio. They\u2019re going to have to learn by now that when they\u2019re wrong &#8212; and they are most of the time &#8212; and I\u2019m right, they\u2019re not going to be able to intimidate us into shutting up with this stuff. They don\u2019t have their monopoly anymore. They don\u2019t, by fiat, automatically get their way anymore. Those days are over, unless they decide to try to do something about it. <\/p>\n<p>Barbara in Austin, Texas, welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Hi, Rush. How are you?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Fine. Thank you.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: I called because I have some concerns about the lack of Republicans stepping up to the plate to articulate their positions about health care. We may not like the plans that the Democrats are putting forward, but we are not seeing Republicans clearly stating where they stand and how they would deal with health care issues. I just do not believe that an ostrich position is an effective strategy.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: On something like this, you\u2019re right. And there\u2019s one word here that\u2019s missing, that they could explain what\u2019s missing. Can you take a quick stab, tell me what you think it is?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: No.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Conservatism.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: (laughter)<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Conservatism.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Conservatism is fine. Nevertheless, we have a huge issue here, and to ignore it &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: No, I agree. I\u2019m saying conservatism provides the guideposts, the pathway for the ultimate position on this. There are plenty of positions, plenty of brilliant conservative scholars and experts in public policy that have presented all kinds of ideas that politicians could adapt, change, and support. One of the greatest ideas that\u2019s been floating out there for the longest time is medical savings accounts. Let the process begin where the customer, the patient, is in charge of what his health care costs for average, ordinary medical treatment, doctor visits and all that, and let him keep what he doesn\u2019t spend for his family at the end of the year, and I guarantee you you\u2019ll have people shopping for the lowest prices with doctors, and the doctors will let \u2019em be competitive. There are ideas out there. The thing that Republicans and everybody is probably afraid of is, they see these polls that 55% want free health care, and they come out with something other than that, they don\u2019t think they\u2019re going to get reelected. There\u2019s just nobody standing up for conservatism right now.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Folks, we are winning. I don\u2019t care what anybody says, we are winning. In fact, I\u2019ve got two stories to illustrate how we are winning. 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