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RUSH: We got two sound bites here, and you must hear them. This is Tim Russert and Hillary Clinton. Russert says, ‘Senator Clinton, I want to propose a hypothetical to you. We got the number three man of Al-Qaeda. We know there\u2019s a bomb about to go off. We have three days. We know this guy knows where it is. Should there be a presidential exception to allow torture in that kind of situation?\u2019 Now, he reads her a quote from a guest on Meet the Press who says, ‘Yes, the president should ask for an exception on this,\u2019 and by virtue of executive order in an emergency situation — the ticking time bomb scenario. Russert\u2019s guest said, yes, the president should have that kind of authority. Here\u2019s Mrs. Clinton\u2019s answer to the question, ‘Should there be a presidential exception to allow torture in that kind of situation?\u2019<\/p>\n

HILLARY: As a matter of policy, it cannot be American policy, period. In addition to the values that are so important for our country to exhibit, is that there is very little evidence that it works. But these hypotheticals are very dangerous because they open a great big hole in what should be an attitude that our country and our president takes toward the appropriate treatment of everyone, and I think it\u2019s dangerous to go down this path.<\/p>\n

RUSSERT: The guest who laid out this scenario for me with that proposed solution was William Jefferson Clinton last year. So he disagreed with you.<\/p>\n

HILLARY: Well, he\u2019s not standing here right now. (laughing\/applause)<\/p>\n

RUSSERT: So there is a disagreement?<\/p>\n

HILLARY: Well, I\u2019ll talk to him later. (laughter)<\/p>\n

RUSH: Ooooh. Ha. Now, I was stunned. You don\u2019t see Democrats set up like this in these debates. You don\u2019t see Democrats tricked like this. It was a setup. It was a clever setup. You can say it\u2019s a gotcha. This is the exact kind of things they do with Republicans, but this doesn\u2019t happen when Democrats are in the midst of a debate. Tim Russert — no, I\u2019m going to ruin his reputation if I applaud him. I\u2019ll say no more about it than I have, but you could call it a setup, tough question, like Dan Rather, CBS News, tough questions. But do you, folks, know the ice and the daggers? I hope Russert got out of there with his testicles not in her lockbox because they\u2019ve been in there for awhile, but obviously he got them out of there. I did a double-take. ‘Well, the person that told me this is your husband, William Jefferson Clinton. So you disagree with him?\u2019 ‘He\u2019s not standing here right now. And if he were…\u2019 ha-ha, that\u2019s where my mind went, what would happen to him. ‘Well, I\u2019ll talk to him later.\u2019 Next, this is a battle that Russert and Hillary had. Not going to set it up. Just listen.<\/p>\n

RUSSERT: Senator Clinton, in 1981, the Israelis took out a nuclear reactor in Iraq. On September 6th, to the best of our information, Israel attacked Syria because there was suspicion that perhaps North Korea had put some nuclear materials in Syria. If Israel concluded that Iran\u2019s nuclear capability threatened Israel\u2019s security, would Israel be justified in launching an attack on Iran?<\/p>\n

HILLARY: Tim, I think that\u2019s one of those hypotheticals that —<\/p>\n

RUSSERT: It is not a hypothetical, Senator. It\u2019s real life.<\/p>\n

HILLARY: That is better not addressed at this time. What is real life is what apparently happened in Syria. So let\u2019s take that one step at a time.<\/p>\n

RUSSERT: But my question —<\/p>\n

HILLARY: I know what the question is, but I think it\u2019s important to lay out what we know —<\/p>\n

RUSSERT: Israel — my question is —<\/p>\n

HILLARY: — we don\u2019t have as much information as I wish we did, but what we think we know is that, with North Korean help, both financial, technical, and material, the Syrians apparently were putting together, and perhaps over some period of years, a nuclear facility. And the Israelis took it out. I strongly support that. We don\u2019t have any more information than what I have just described. It is highly classified; it is not being shared. But I don\u2019t want to go a step further and talk about what might or might not happen down the road with Iran. But I think it is fair to say what happened in Syria, so far as we know, I support.<\/p>\n

RUSSERT: My question is, would the Israelis be justified if they felt their security was being threatened by the presence of a nuclear presence in Iran, and they decided to take military action, would they be justified?<\/p>\n

HILLARY: Well, Tim, I\u2019m not going to answer that because what I understand is there was evidence. (laughter) Let me just finish and then Mike and Dennis can answer. But there was evidence of a North Korean freighter coming in with supplies, there was intelligence and other kinds of verification. So I don\u2019t think it\u2019s a question of if they feel it. That is a much higher standard of proof. Apparently, it was met with respect to Syria.<\/p>\n

RUSSERT: You will all be running against a Republican opponent, perhaps Rudy Giuliani. This is what he said. ‘Iran is not going to be allowed to build a nuclear power. If they get to a point where they\u2019re going to become a nuclear power, we\u2019ll prevent them, we will set them back eight to ten years. That is not said as a threat. That should be said as a promise.\u2019 Would you make a promise as a potential commander-in-chief that you will not allow Iran to become a nuclear power, and will use any means to stop it?<\/p>\n

HILLARY: Well, what I have said is that I will do everything I can to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power, including the use of diplomacy, the use of economic sanctions, opening up direct talks. We haven\u2019t even tried. That\u2019s what is so discouraging about this, so then you have the Republican candidates on the other side jumping to the kind of statements that you just read to us. We need a concerted, comprehensive strategy to deal with Iran. We haven\u2019t had it. We need it, and I will provide it. <\/p>\n

RUSH: What\u2019s the lesson to be learned from this sound bite? Who did Mrs. Clinton just blame for Iran\u2019s nuclear ideas and expansion? She blamed us, she blamed the United States. This is the blame-America-first crowd, folks, and they haven\u2019t ever gone away. They have just resurfaced. She wouldn\u2019t answer a direct question about anything. This business about Syria, by the way, I mentioned this yesterday. This is more important than anybody knows. For all this fawning media attention that Ahmadinejad got here, he and Bashar Assad are quaking in their boots as are those mullahs, because the Israelis flew deep into Syria to make this attack, and the Syrians didn\u2019t know it had happened until afterwards. They never knew that the Israelis were coming. <\/p>\n

What\u2019s interesting about this is they\u2019ve got state-of-the-art detection systems installed by the Russians, and they failed. They utterly, totally failed. The Iranians probably have the same detection installations from Russia. The Israelis were able to get deep in there. This is not just a little penetration just over the border. They went deep, and the Syrians never knew anything about it until the Israeli bombs went off. Now, this is important because this is another great question that she wouldn\u2019t answer, and, finally, when she got down to what she really wanted to say about it, it\u2019s the fault of the United States of America. Blame America first. ‘We haven\u2019t even tried to solve the Iranian crisis,\u2019 that we created, she didn\u2019t say, but meant. Frankly, I\u2019m getting fed up with blaming America from these people every damn day. <\/p>\n

(Playing of We Hate the USA.)<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why couldn\u2019t Mrs. Clinton just say yes to the question? ‘Israel has a right to defend itself.\u2019 Why couldn\u2019t she just say it? I raised this earlier. We don\u2019t want to elect a ‘navigator-in-chief.\u2019 We want to elect a leader, and these Democrats are not being honest and upfront with us about what they would do in certain situations. This is not confirmation hearings for a Supreme Court justice where you can\u2019t talk about the cases that you\u2019re going to face. This is president of the United States. We are a great nation, at risk in a dangerous world. We\u2019re about to elect somebody new to lead us. It\u2019s entirely within our rights to know how this person views the defense of this country. Mrs. Clinton refuses to tell us. She insists on blaming us for these problems such as in, ‘We haven\u2019t even talked to the Iranians directly yet!\u2019 By the way, wasn\u2019t it Mrs. Clinton who tried to make a mockery of Barack Obama for saying that we should? When Obama said, ‘Hell, I\u2019d talk to them directly, and I\u2019d talk to Chavez,\u2019 wasn\u2019t it Mrs. Clinton that went out there and made a fool out of him, as though that was a very un-presidential thing to say? What did she say last night? The same thing Obama has been saying.<\/p>\n

‘Well, we haven\u2019t even had direct talks yet. We haven\u2019t even done it.\u2019 It\u2019s our fault. It\u2019s a legitimate question, and Israel has the right to defend itself if threatened by Iran with nukes. See, this is really not about whatever circumstances Bush leaves for Mrs. Clinton to inherit in \u201909 if she wins the presidency. This is about her unwillingness to tell the public the truth about where she would go as president and what she would do — and, by the way, this business we haven\u2019t tried to talk to Iran? Hell\u2019s bells, folks! Europe has. The UN has put in place some weak sanctions. Ahmadinejad said the other day that he\u2019s going to ignore the Security Council and whatever they tell him to do on his uranium enrichment project. Iran is killing US soldiers. They are threatening to destroy Israel. They are out there saying (terrorist impression), ‘Death to America!\u2019 Why can\u2019t she say, ‘We can\u2019t allow Iran to get nukes,\u2019 period? ‘Israel should defend itself if threatened.\u2019 Why can\u2019t she say that? Why is she afraid of saying it? It\u2019s too black and white? She wants to be nuanced? I\u2019ll tell you why. It\u2019s because she wants to have wiggle room to get out of anything, and she can\u2019t if she makes a firm statement on something. She doesn\u2019t want to have to stake anything.<\/p>\n

This woman wants to be elected president with nobody knowing anything about her. She flip-flops. By the way, do you know, ladies and gentlemen, that back last year, 2006, the New York Daily News — almost a year ago, October 16th — had a story? Hillary Clinton did allow torture in a ticking time bomb scenario in a New York Daily News interview: ‘The ticking time bomb scenario represents a narrow exception to her opposition to torture as morale wrong, ineffective, and dangerous to American soldiers.\u2019 Quote: ‘In the event we were ever confronted with having to interrogate a detainee with knowledge of an imminent threat to millions of Americans, then the decision to depart from standard international practices must be made by the president. The president must be held accountable. That very, very narrow exception within very, very limited circumstances is better than blasting a big hole in our entire law.\u2019 <\/p>\n

‘In yesterday\u2019s Daily News editorial board meeting, it emerged she\u2019s not actually against torture in all instances and that her dispute with McCain and Bush is largely procedural. Asked about the ticking time bomb scenario…\u2019 This is October 12th of 2006, four days before the previous story. Yeah, she basically came out in favor, in an editorial board interview with the New York Daily News, came out in favor of the ticking time bomb scenario for torture. Last night, no way. ‘No way, Tim! it\u2019s a hypothetical. I\u2019m not going to deal with it.\u2019 <\/p>\n

Your husband says it. <\/p>\n

‘Well, he\u2019s not standing here.\u2019 <\/p>\n

This woman is all over the board depending on who she thinks will want to hear what at that particular moment — and that\u2019s the best definition of ‘dishonest\u2019 I can give you.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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