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RUSH: Mike in Chicago, welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush, how you doing today?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Fine, sir, thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Good. Why is it that you always just accuse the Democrats of being against the war and that there\u2019s actually no Republicans that can possibly be against the war?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, who are these Republicans? I can think of Chuck Hagel, and I can think of Gordon Smith, two Republican senators, but they don\u2019t want to lose the war like the Democrats do. I can\u2019t think of who the Republicans are in the anti-war movement.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m not talking about the senators. I\u2019m talking about the general public. You accuse the public and all the Democrats of being, you know, wanting to lose —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, come on, here we go again. I utter the truth, and you can\u2019t handle it so you gotta call here and change the subject. How come I\u2019m not also hitting Republicans? I don\u2019t know a single Republican or conservative, Mike, who wants to pull out of Iraq in defeat. The Democrats have made the last four years about that specifically.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I am a Republican, and I listened to you for a long time, and you\u2019re right on a lot of things, but I do believe that we should pull out of Iraq. I don\u2019t think it\u2019s winnable. I\u2019m not a Democrat, but sometimes you gotta cut the losses. I mean, sometimes you really got to admit you\u2019re wrong.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, yeah, you do. I\u2019m not wrong on this. The worst thing that can happen is losing this, getting out of there, waving the white flag. <\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m not saying that, I\u2019m not saying anything like that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Of course you are. <\/p>\n

CALLER: No, I\u2019m not!<\/p>\n

RUSH: The truth is the truth, Mike.<\/p>\n

CALLER: We did what we were supposed to do, okay, we got rid of Saddam Hussein; we got rid of a lot of the terrorists. Let them run their country now. Let\u2019s get out of there and let\u2019s be done with it. We won it.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019m never going to be able to retire. It\u2019s not going to work. You are depressing me.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, sometimes, like you said, the truth hurts, Rush. Sometimes it hurts.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I have explained this so many times. I can\u2019t believe that you actually listen to this program a lot, because you\u2019ve heard me say what I\u2019m going to say to you. War is never ‘plottable\u2019 on a piece of paper or on a map. It never goes exactly as anybody thinks it\u2019s going to go because nobody can predict the future, for one thing.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s true.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you. So what\u2019s happening now is that the very enemy that blew us up on 9\/11 is facing us in Iraq. We can\u2019t cave in defeat and run out of there and say, ‘Hey guess what, we won, we got Saddam.\u2019 We are going to be setting ourselves up for future disasters. We will never be able to have any other nation trust us as an ally when we have to go in there again. If we pull out of there before we take care of this, Mike, we\u2019re just going to have to do it sometime later at greater cost.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Are we ever going to take care of it, though? How long do you think we\u2019re going to have to be there to take care of it? <\/p>\n

RUSH: Mike, you can\u2019t possibly be a Republican.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I am.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You can\u2019t be Republican. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, I am definitely Republican.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You sound just like a Democrat.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, but seriously, Rush, how long do we have to stay there?<\/p>\n

RUSH: As long as it takes.<\/p>\n

CALLER: How long?<\/p>\n

RUSH: As long as it takes. It is very serious. This is the United States of America at war with Islamofascists. Just like your job, you do everything you have to do, whatever it takes to get it done, if you take it seriously.<\/p>\n

CALLER: So then you say we need to stay there forever?<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, Bill — (Laughing) or Mike. I\u2019m sorry. I\u2019m confusing you with the guy from Texas.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I used to be military, okay, and I am a Republican.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And I do listen to you, but —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right, I know. And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon.<\/p>\n

CALLER: How long do we have to stay there?<\/p>\n

RUSH: You\u2019re not listening to what I say. You can\u2019t possibly be a Republican. I\u2019m answering every question; it\u2019s not what you want to hear, and so it\u2019s not even penetrating your little wall of armor you\u2019ve got built up. I said we stay to get the job done, as long as it takes. I didn\u2019t say forever. Nothing takes forever. That\u2019s not possible, Bill. Mike. Whatever. Nobody lives forever, no situation lasts forever, everything ends. We determine how do we want it to end, in our favor or in our defeat? With people like you in charge, who want to put a timeline on everything — do you ever get anything done in your life? Or do you say, ‘Well, I wanted to have this done by now, and it\u2019s not, so screw it\u2019? You don\u2019t live your life that way. Well, hell, you might, I don\u2019t know. But the limitations that you want to impose here are senseless, and they, frankly, portray no evidence that you are a Republican. <\/p>\n

Another Mike. This one in Olympia, Washington. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You bet.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am serving in the American military, in the Army. I\u2019ve been serving for 14 years, very proudly.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I\u2019m proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, what these people don\u2019t understand, is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is not possible because of all the stuff that\u2019s over there, it would take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse and we\u2019d have to go right back over there within a year or so.<\/p>\n

RUSH: There\u2019s a lot more than that that they don\u2019t understand. The next guy that calls here I\u2019m going to ask them, ‘What is the imperative of pulling out? What\u2019s in it for the United States to pull out?\u2019 I don\u2019t think they have an answer for that other than, ‘When\u2019s he going to bring the troops home? Keep the troops safe,\u2019 whatever. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: It\u2019s not possible intellectually to follow these people.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, it\u2019s not. And what\u2019s really funny is they never talk to real soldiers. They pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and spout to the media.<\/p>\n

RUSH: The phony soldiers.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Phony soldiers. If you talk to any real soldier and they\u2019re proud to serve, they want to be over in Iraq, they understand their sacrifice and they\u2019re willing to sacrifice for the country.<\/p>\n

RUSH: They joined to be in Iraq.<\/p>\n

CALLER: A lot of people.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You know where you\u2019re going these days, the last four years, if you sign up. The odds are you\u2019re going there or Afghanistan, or somewhere.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly, sir. My other comment, my original comment, was a retort to Jill about the fact we didn\u2019t find any weapons of mass destruction. Actually, we have found weapons of mass destruction in chemical agents that terrorists have been using against us for a while now. I\u2019ve done two tours in Iraq, I just got back in June, and there are many instances of insurgents not knowing what they\u2019re using in their IEDs. They\u2019re using mustard artillery rounds, VX artillery rounds in their IEDs. Because they didn\u2019t know what they were using, they didn\u2019t do it right, and so it didn\u2019t really hurt anybody. But those munitions are over there. It\u2019s a huge desert. If they bury it somewhere, we\u2019re never going to find it.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that\u2019s a moot point for me right now.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: The weapons of mass destruction. We gotta get beyond that. We\u2019re there. We all know they were there, and Mahmoud even admitted it in one of his speeches here talking about Saddam using the poison mustard gas or whatever it is on his own people. But that\u2019s moot. What\u2019s more important is all this is taking place now in the midst of the surge working, and all of these anti-war Democrats are getting even more hell-bent on pulling out of there, which means that success on the part of you and your colleagues over there is a great threat to them. It\u2019s frustrating and maddening, and why they must be kept in the minority. I want to thank you, Mike, for calling. I appreciate it very much. <\/p>\n

Here is a Morning Update<\/a> that we did recently, talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. They have their celebrities and one of them was Army Ranger Jesse Macbeth. Now, he was a ‘corporal.\u2019 I say in quotes. Twenty-three years old. What made Jesse Macbeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn\u2019t his Purple Heart; it wasn\u2019t his being affiliated with post-traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. No. What made Jesse Macbeth, Army Ranger, a hero to the left was his courage, in their view, off the battlefield, without regard to consequences. He told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq, American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, hundreds of men, women, even children. In one gruesome account, translated into Arabic and spread widely across the Internet, Army Ranger Jesse Macbeth describes the horrors this way: ‘We would burn their bodies. We would hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque.\u2019 <\/p>\n

Now, recently, Jesse Macbeth, poster boy for the anti-war left, had his day in court. And you know what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs claim and his Army discharge record. He was in the Army. Jesse Macbeth was in the Army, folks, briefly. Forty-four days before he washed out of boot camp. Jesse Macbeth isn\u2019t an Army Ranger, never was. He isn\u2019t a corporal, never was. He never won the Purple Heart, and he was never in combat to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen. You probably haven\u2019t even heard about this. And, if you have, you haven\u2019t heard much about it. This doesn\u2019t fit the narrative and the template in the Drive-By Media and the Democrat Party as to who is a genuine war hero. Don\u2019t look for any retractions, by the way. Not from the anti-war left, the anti-military Drive-By Media, or the Arabic websites that spread Jesse Macbeth\u2019s lies about our troops, because the truth for the left is fiction that serves their purpose. They have to lie about such atrocities because they can\u2019t find any that fit the template of the way they see the US military. In other words, for the American anti-war left, the greatest inconvenience they face is the truth.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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