{"id":266355,"date":"2018-03-02T16:00:00","date_gmt":"2018-03-02T21:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/?p=266355"},"modified":"2018-03-05T16:03:15","modified_gmt":"2018-03-05T21:03:15","slug":"sluggo-calls-to-talk-about-jared-kushners-security-clearance","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2018\/03\/02\/sluggo-calls-to-talk-about-jared-kushners-security-clearance\/","title":{"rendered":"Sluggo Calls to Talk About Jared Kushner\u2019s Security Clearance"},"content":{"rendered":"

RUSH: Now, I want to go to the phones, because we are fortunate to have Sluggo. Sluggo is Mark Hasara, Lieutenant Mark Hasara who, very brief version, flew the American flag on his tanker into the invasion of Iraq, 2003, unbeknownst to me in my honor, and it flew on other planes that day. He sent the flag and explanation to me, unbeknownst to me. He has written a book that came out last November about his life in the Air Force as a tanker pilot. And he\u2019s called. I mean, he actually got through. Snerdley put him up there, on line 2, so we\u2019re gonna break protocol, we\u2019re gonna take a call in the monologue section. Sluggo, how are you doing?<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a>CALLER: Sir Rush!<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, welcome to the EIB Network.<\/p>\n

CALLER: First-time caller, longtime listener since 1991.<\/p>\n

RUSH: (laughing) 1991. Well, welcome. To what do we owe the pleasure of your call today, Sluggo?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I find this story about Jared Kushner\u2019s security clearance fascinating in a fake news kind of way. I spent 24 and a half years in the military, Rush, on active duty, and my security clearance was upgraded and downgraded numerous times. And it all depends on your job position, but more importantly, Rush, on your need to know. ‘Cause we have to protect the information, but more importantly, protect the method and discipline on how we got the information.<\/p>\n

RUSH: How much similarity do you think there is in your being examined for clearance check and so forth between what you had to pass in the Air Force and what they\u2019re doing in the White House? What are the similarities, if any, in what you\u2019d have to do to prove you need to know?<\/p>\n

CALLER: When I was working in the defense industry they were asking the same questions I was being asked when I was on active duty, Rush. The background checks cover the same things, financial. I was always asked do I have bank accounts in foreign countries, where are those bank accounts, how much is in those bank accounts. These kinds of questions are normal, Rush. And so the evaluation that we went through for our security clearances covers a lot of aspects to make sure that, you know, we aren\u2019t targets for espionage and somebody coming up and flashing a lot of cash to us and saying, “We need this information. We\u2019ll pay you this much for it.”<\/p>\n

\"\"RUSH: Yeah, but something\u2019s happened in the Kushner story that made you want to call here. I guess his clearance has been downgraded from top secret to secret, whatever that means, and they\u2019re saying that this is happening because he has fallen out of favor, that maybe some people don\u2019t trust him in the White House. They\u2019re trying to make it as negative as it could be. What I gather you\u2019re saying is that these changes happen all the time based on need to know rather than people\u2019s judgment of somebody\u2019s fitness, correct?<\/p>\n

CALLER: That is correct. And when I didn\u2019t have a need to know, my security clearance, Rush, was downgraded from top discreet down to secret.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Look, I understand you don\u2019t know a thing about what\u2019s going on in the White House, and I\u2019m trying to entrap you here, but how could his need to know change on a day-to-day or even month-to-month basis? I mean, he passes his background check apparently, gets some degree of clearance for security, and then we\u2019re told that the chief of staff decided to change the system whereby clearances are passed out, and that resulted in Jared Kushner being downgraded a slot. You think something\u2019s nefarious about this or you\u2019re just trying to explain that it\u2019s really not nefarious?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m trying to explain that it\u2019s not nefarious and these kinds of evaluations, Rush, go on all the time.<\/p>\n

\"\"RUSH: And so the only reason we even know about this is \u2019cause Kushner is a target of Trump\u2019s enemies, media and so forth, otherwise we never would know about it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That is correct. Everybody in Trump\u2019s family has been a target, haven\u2019t they?<\/p>\n

RUSH: They remain so.<\/p>\n

CALLER: They\u2019re just trying to make a big story out of this, and there\u2019s really no reason for it because like I said, Rush, I was in certain positions and had a need to know top secret information, and my security clearance was upgraded accordingly. When I left that position or I didn\u2019t have a need to know that information, my security clearance was downgraded back to secret.<\/p>\n

And this kind of movement happened numerous times throughout my career. And the military guys all understand that it\u2019s going to happen, depending on what you\u2019re doing. And I just don\u2019t think it\u2019s a big story. They\u2019re making a big thing out of it and there\u2019s no reason to. My manuscript had to go through a security clearance check. It had to go through seven different organizations in the Pentagon. Again, it\u2019s just to protect the information.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, now, wait a minute. Wait. Hold it just a second now. You took a turn. I\u2019m gonna follow you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Did the department the Wednesday or any of the people that you had to submit your book manuscript to, did they make you take anything out of because of potential security the violations or threats?<\/p>\n

CALLER: There were things that could have been redacted but fortunately I wrote my book in such a manner that I was careful not to put things in there that I knew would cause security red flags.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, so congratulations. So you got an unredacted book out there that passed the Pentagon?<\/p>\n

CALLER: And guess when it got stamped “approved”? On September 11th, 2017. I kept that stamp, by the way. I\u2019ve got that front page, and it\u2019s got that stamp on it, September 11th. I thought that was kind of a good omen.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Ah, that is. Well, I remember when Colonel Hasara — by the way, for those of you just joining us, this is lieutenant colonel retired Mark Hasara, U.S. Air Force. Flew tankers — and what other aircraft did you fly besides tankers in your career? Short list.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019ve flown F-15s, I have even flown in Royal Air Force DC-10 tankers, C-130s, E3 AWACS, and I have 10 catapult assisted takeoffs and 10 arrested landings, aircraft carriers.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Did you ever fly a Warthog?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Warthog\u2019s only a single theater, so they\u2019d have to strap me to the wing to fly that. (laughing)<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. I remember when Sluggo decided to write the book, his original title was Passing Gas, which I thought was —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, it was.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — just ideal, because he flies tanker jets in the military, passing gas, because nobody kicks ass without tanker gas, right?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Nobody.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I thought it was — but you downgraded the title — well, you changed. You didn\u2019t downgrade it. And the book came out —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, there\u2019s actually another book out there called Passing Gas, and the folks at Simon & Schuster said, you know, let\u2019s change the title a little bit, and so we did.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, I didn\u2019t know that.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I didn\u2019t know there was another.<\/p>\n

\"\"CALLER: Yeah. But, you know, everybody loves the story about you helping us hunt bin Laden.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I told you that story.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right. Right. Tell it. Look. My ego prevents me bragging to that degree. So very briefly, tell the story about me helping.<\/p>\n

CALLER: In 2002, we were able to pinpoint Osama Bin Laden\u2019s location in the Shah-i-Kot Valley. My team had to create a refueling system for Operation Anaconda, and we had three air fueling areas. We named them Rush, Hannity, and O\u2019Reilly.<\/p>\n

RUSH: (laughing)<\/p>\n

CALLER: And to be bipartisan, \u2019cause the military has to be bipartisan, on the far left-hand side of the country right up against the Iranian border, we put Hillary and Kennedy.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. (laughing)<\/p>\n

CALLER: All right? During the war in Iraq when we moved tankers into Iraqi airspace, I named them all after female country western singers. We opened Reba and Shania south of Baghdad. We had Faith after Faith Hill, near Baghdad. Martina McBride had one named after her near the Syrian border. But we were all really pleased to know that Rush Limbaugh was helping us hunt Osama Bin Laden over the Shah-i-Kot Valley in March of 2002.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And it\u2019s another thing that was being done, I was totally, totally unaware of it. Well, look, Sluggo, congratulations on the —<\/p>\n

CALLER: And you were offloading millions of pounds of gas in Russia, too. You know that? Millions of pounds of gas.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Millions.<\/p>\n

CALLER: More than you would use — my airplane takes off with 180,000 pounds of gas, and your vehicle won\u2019t use that in 27 years.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I know. And just think of all the climate change damage one takeoff, one takeoff of yours is wreaking.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I would rather have effectiveness than efficiency any day of the week.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Absolutely. Hey, I\u2019m glad you called. It\u2019s a thrill that you took the time to get through here and I appreciate your input on the security clearance stuff with Jared Kushner. Again, he doesn\u2019t think there\u2019s anything nefarious here. It\u2019s just people\u2019s need to know changes based on news and so forth, and the media\u2019s hyping this as a way of taking another potshot at Trump and his family. You\u2019re in Salt Lake City right now, right?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir. I\u2019m here in Utah writing more books.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, congratulations. The first one is awesome.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s selling well, doing well, doing well, and I did a lecture over the weekend, C-SPAN actually recorded it for possible broadcast in a couple weeks, and —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait, wait, wait. You did a C-SPAN book TV interview?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Over the weekend, I was giving a lecture at the Hill Air Force Base museum, and C-SPAN recorded it for broadcast in two or three weeks.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that\u2019s fabulous.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, it is. It\u2019s really fun.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s fabulous. Well, I\u2019ve been on C-SPAN. They\u2019re harmless.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, you\u2019ve been on a lot of programs.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I have.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Great to always see your face up there.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Mark, thank you. I\u2019m glad to hear from you. That\u2019s Mark Hasara, nickname Sluggo. Great tanker pilot, United States Air Force for 24 years.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: The title of Sluggo\u2019s book is Tanker Pilot: Lessons From the Cockpit<\/a>. And there are a lot of photos. There\u2019s some incredible air-to-air photos that Sluggo took with his own camera and phone while on missions, refueling photos and so forth. It really is a fascinating book on a side of the Air Force that\u2019s not much talked about, that is, the refueling aspect, which there\u2019s not a single mission that would be possible without it, because of how much fuel these jets consume. Fascinating read.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/p>\n

By the way, on the security clearance business, I want to emphasize that Hasara was exactly right. Your security clearance will change based on your need to know, which is largely determined by your job. And the media is trying to say that Kushner lost his security clearance because he may not be trustworthy or because they found that he\u2019s doing dubious things that nobody learned about. That\u2019s the impression that they\u2019re trying to give with all this. It\u2019s just part of the never-ending onslaught of the Trump family and the Trump administration.<\/p>\n

Do you know that as far as security clearances, Edward Snowden and Bradley Manning had top security clearances. Hillary Clinton, Huma Weiner, and other Hillary staffers reportedly still have their security clearances from the Obama administration so they can help Hillary write her next best-seller, ahem.<\/p>\n

So it\u2019s kind of a way that they can take a shot at Kushner. They\u2019re relating it to, “You know what we found? We found that Jared Kushner was leveraging his position in the White House to get loans of up to $500 million for his family. That\u2019s a violation of every ethics law you can think of.” And then he had a security clearance cut. This is what they\u2019re trying to create in terms of people\u2019s perception.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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