{"id":25779,"date":"2011-05-19T05:25:33","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T05:25:33","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2020-02-07T10:42:45","modified_gmt":"2020-02-07T15:42:45","slug":"peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/","title":{"rendered":"Peggy in “Oral” Valley, Arizona"},"content":{"rendered":"
RUSH: Peggy in Tucson, Arizona, great to have you on the EIB Network.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And I am absolutely thrilled that I got through. Actually this is the third time I\u2019ve gotten through, and you may have fun with my city because it\u2019s ‘Oral\u2019 Valley, [spelled: Oro] and I don\u2019t know if you remember that or not.<\/p>\n

RUSH: How could I forget a place like Oral Valley?<\/p>\n

CALLER: See? I was hoping you wouldn\u2019t. (Giggles.)<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. I have a good memory anyway, but I would never forget a place called Oral Valley.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, Rush, you\u2019re phenomenal, and we\u2019ll leave it at that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You do help keep me sane, and I\u2019m one of those. My husband and I both listen to you just about every day.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You said that the last time you called, that I keep you sane.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You did, and we\u2019re still sane.<\/p>\n

RUSH: See, I remember that, too.<\/p>\n

CALLER: (Laughing.) So we\u2019re batting a thousand here. Briefly, on the morning talk show here, conservative talk show, Senator Kyl was on regarding the immigration, and I only heard part of it, but two of his points were that under existing law, we can\u2019t quite enforce the way we need to, and part of that was because of how the employers have to verify. So he was saying that was one of the positives of this new bill, and then the other thing was —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Except the employers don\u2019t like it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, well, that\u2019s it.<\/p>\n

RUSH: They don\u2019t. They don\u2019t like the responsibility of having to be the government agency, if you will.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why should they be, by the way?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, you know, my take on it is they really should be able to verify if they\u2019re legal or not and it should be made easy for them, and I think that would be highly possible by coordinating human services and INS or whatever they are now.<\/p>\n

RUSH: We\u2019re talking about federal immigration law here. The federal government is charged with enforcing its own laws, and they\u2019re passing this off to business, knowing full well business can\u2019t.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, and again, now, you\u2019re hitting on the point that I sit back and I look at this, and bottom line is, ‘So what\u2019s different? How are they going to enforce this when they couldn\u2019t enforce before?\u2019 But I really wanted to tell you the other thing that he said that I found was really interesting, and I\u2019m upset with Kyl. I\u2019m not alone here. I called his office, and I feel like we are getting this jammed right down our throats.<\/p>\n

RUSH: In Oral Valley, yes.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, in Oral Valley. Very good. I\u2019m not surprised. He said that if amendments come up to this bill that affect the core of it, then all bets are off, and the coalition that he has of Republicans won\u2019t vote for it, which I still feel the bottom line is this thing is going to get rammed through. But I wondered, since you\u2019ve read the bill, if these points, especially the first one about the existing laws not quite handling —<\/p>\n

RUSH: I don\u2019t.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Do you buy that?<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, that\u2019s not true. They\u2019re not enforcing it. There\u2019s no enforcement mechanism. Look, we already have a law that determines that the people that arrive here the way they are arriving are ‘illegal.\u2019<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: It can\u2019t be any more clear. When you use that word, you\u2019re in violation of the law here. It\u2019s crystal clear. The enforcement mechanism? All they\u2019re saying is, ‘There\u2019s no way we\u2019re going to deport 12 million people.\u2019 What they\u2019re saying is, ‘We\u2019ve lost control. We\u2019ve lost control of the number of people coming in, and there\u2019s nothing we can do about it now. It\u2019s too late, and the only way we can fix this is just to say, ‘Okay, the 12 million or 20 million that are here are legal,” and then they\u2019re telling us for like the seventh time that this next piece of legislation, ‘That\u2019s going to have the tough enforcement provisions, and that\u2019s going to have the tough border security.\u2019 People, after watching Ted Kennedy be wrong on this for five or six times in 42 years and everybody else be wrong on this (the most recent time Simpson-Mazzoli), the confidence is not there that the government, whatever new law they write, is going to have some magical ability to be more enforced than previous laws have been.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You know what? I heard another caller call in on the local show, and he pointed out that as soon as any of the current illegals stepped forward — and I don\u2019t think they have to pay money, but as soon as they step forward — then essentially they\u2019re legal. They don\u2019t have to go down the path to citizenship or pay the fine or anything. That essentially makes them legal, which just drains the color from my face.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that caller no doubt heard that from me, because I have been mentioning this since last week. A lot of other hosts have, too.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, maybe I heard it from you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you probably did, you just don\u2019t have as good a memory as I do.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I\u2019m older than you. (Giggles.)<\/p>\n

RUSH: But whoever you heard say it is right, because one of the ways they\u2019re selling this is, ‘We\u2019re going to put these people on a path to citizenship.\u2019<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, we\u2019re not because they\u2019re not going to have to become citizens.<\/p>\n

CALLER: They don\u2019t want it. You look at all of the people up here — and I live right here in the belt — and I don\u2019t see where those people want the citizenship, and you have a lot of the people, the Hispanics here in our population, that have gone through the right road to citizenship, and they are as angry as we are.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, the anger crosses the board here. It crosses the political divide left and right, and legal versus illegal. It does. But the dirty little secret here is they talk about the fines, and they talk about the back taxes. They talk about going to the end of the line, and going back home. The touchback provision: ‘Go back home, to your country, and come back.\u2019 That\u2019s only if you want citizenship. If you don\u2019t want to be a citizen you don\u2019t have to do diddly-squat because the moment the bill is signed into law, you\u2019re legal, pure and simple. This is not about citizenship and it\u2019s not about assimilation. It\u2019s a way of wiping failed policy since Simpson-Mazzoli \u201986 off the books. It\u2019s just a tacit admission that it hasn\u2019t worked. ‘All right, we\u2019ll just wave a wand here and make \u2019em legal,\u2019 but that\u2019s why I said yesterday, in another brilliant monologue, that it\u2019s important to find out what the illegals want. Do they want citizenship, or do they just want to be legal? I don\u2019t think anybody that\u2019s behind the authorship of this bill and trying to get it passed, cares. That\u2019s not the objective. Look, the Republicans on this (sigh). I\u2019m just at a loss. The Democrats understand fully what\u2019s in it for them.<\/p>\n

They\u2019re trying — and pardon me for sounding like a broken record, but it is clear here with Peggy\u2019s call that this stuff needs to be pounded and pounded and pounded. The Democrats, who they are? They\u2019re liberals. What do they believe? Giant government. They believe in the redistribution of wealth. They want as many victims in society as possible, and there aren\u2019t as many victims in America anymore because our economy is so good, the prosperity and opportunity for it in this country has never been better. So they need an influx of new voters. They need an influx of new victims to continue to build the welfare state on: redistribution of wealth. The Republicans are looking at this out of fear. As I said yesterday, they\u2019re looking at this through the prism of defeat and how they will lose Hispanic votes if they are seen opposing this. They risk be called racists and nativists and bigots and so forth. So they\u2019re telling themselves that if they\u2019re seen as being compassionate and understanding and supportive of this, that they\u2019ll somehow end up getting a lion\u2019s share of the votes of these 12 or 20 million people. The Democrats already have dibs on them, pure and simple. There will be no need for them to become entrepreneurs en masse, because the Democrats are going to take care of them.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

RUSH: Peggy in Tucson, Arizona, great to have you on the EIB Network. CALLER: And I am absolutely thrilled that I got through. Actually this is the third time I\u2019ve gotten through, and you may have fun with my city because it\u2019s ‘Oral\u2019 Valley, [spelled: Oro] and I don\u2019t know if you remember that or […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":25,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","ngg_post_thumbnail":0},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"\nPeggy in "Oral" Valley, Arizona - The Rush Limbaugh Show<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:title\" content=\"Peggy in "Oral" Valley, Arizona - The Rush Limbaugh Show\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:description\" content=\"RUSH: Peggy in Tucson, Arizona, great to have you on the EIB Network. CALLER: And I am absolutely thrilled that I got through. Actually this is the third time I\u2019ve gotten through, and you may have fun with my city because it\u2019s ‘Oral\u2019 Valley, [spelled: Oro] and I don\u2019t know if you remember that or […]\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"admin\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"7 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/\",\"name\":\"The Rush Limbaugh Show\",\"description\":\"Excellence In Broadcasting\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/#webpage\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/\",\"name\":\"Peggy in \\\"Oral\\\" Valley, Arizona - The Rush Limbaugh Show\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2011-05-19T05:25:33+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2020-02-07T15:42:45+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/#\/schema\/person\/911066e449df26406b107ca78cbbde0b\"},\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Peggy in “Oral” Valley, Arizona\"}]},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/#\/schema\/person\/911066e449df26406b107ca78cbbde0b\",\"name\":\"admin\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/#personlogo\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f18195e0073013fa0e16b040686c2924?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f18195e0073013fa0e16b040686c2924?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"admin\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/author\/admin\/\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Peggy in \"Oral\" Valley, Arizona - The Rush Limbaugh Show","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/","twitter_card":"summary","twitter_title":"Peggy in \"Oral\" Valley, Arizona - The Rush Limbaugh Show","twitter_description":"RUSH: Peggy in Tucson, Arizona, great to have you on the EIB Network. CALLER: And I am absolutely thrilled that I got through. Actually this is the third time I\u2019ve gotten through, and you may have fun with my city because it\u2019s ‘Oral\u2019 Valley, [spelled: Oro] and I don\u2019t know if you remember that or […]","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"admin","Est. reading time":"7 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/#website","url":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/","name":"The Rush Limbaugh Show","description":"Excellence In Broadcasting","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/#webpage","url":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/","name":"Peggy in \"Oral\" Valley, Arizona - The Rush Limbaugh Show","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/#website"},"datePublished":"2011-05-19T05:25:33+00:00","dateModified":"2020-02-07T15:42:45+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/#\/schema\/person\/911066e449df26406b107ca78cbbde0b"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/peggy_in_oral_valley_arizona\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"Peggy in “Oral” Valley, Arizona"}]},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/#\/schema\/person\/911066e449df26406b107ca78cbbde0b","name":"admin","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","@id":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/#personlogo","inLanguage":"en-US","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f18195e0073013fa0e16b040686c2924?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/f18195e0073013fa0e16b040686c2924?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"admin"},"url":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/author\/admin\/"}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/api\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25779"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/api\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/api\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/api\/wp\/v2\/users\/25"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/api\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=25779"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/api\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25779\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":336118,"href":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/api\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25779\/revisions\/336118"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/api\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=25779"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/api\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=25779"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/api\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=25779"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}