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RUSH: We\u2019re back, El Rushbo at EIB Network. Open Line Friday to Pelion, South Carolina. This is Marie. I\u2019m glad you called. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi! Happy Friday!<\/p>\n

RUSH: Same to you. <\/p>\n

CALLER: I was asked to get right to it. I called you in 1994 as a recently divorced mother of a two-year-old. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I was in my second semester of college and some professors had convinced me to go on welfare because I had been falling asleep during class, and I called you to ask you, ‘Don\u2019t you think that makes more sense than falling asleep in class and getting poor grades?\u2019 and I was promptly excoriated, which kind of hacked me off. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a minute. Excoriated by me?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that was tough love. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, three months later, I got a letter from the welfare office. This was before welfare reform. They said you have to show up at the office on such and such a date and plan to be there all day. Well, that happened to be finals day for me. So I called and I said, ‘I can\u2019t do that. That\u2019s my finals. Can we reschedule? What can we do?\u2019 They refused to reschedule. They said if I couldn\u2019t find a sitter, then I could get out of it. I said, ‘But that\u2019s a lie. That\u2019s not my problem,\u2019 and I went as far up the chain as I could, and eventually ended up telling the person highest up the chain where he could put his welfare check, and I went back to work. I ended up graduating magna cum laude, phi beta cappa, and that experience has actually helped me. I broke my back in 2001. I\u2019m still working. I\u2019m still moving. So it served me very well. The point is: these people want you to be dependent. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Right!<\/p>\n

CALLER: They did not want me to go and get good grades. <\/p>\n

RUSH: I remember you. I\u2019ll tell you why I remembered you. When you mentioned your daughter, I remembered, and the professor telling you it would make more sense to go on welfare. That burned me! I remember this. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, it was a tough thing to do. It was hard to work, because I ended up working third shifts. <\/p>\n

RUSH: People need to hear your story again. Can you hang on through the break? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Sure!<\/p>\n

RUSH: Because one of the great things about this program and calls like yours, is you can end up inspiring a lot of people here, and I want to go through this from the beginning again and ask you some questions. You get into detail about it, because this is good. I\u2019m glad you called. Please be patient. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: We lost Marie! Somehow the phone connection died. We have her number, and we\u2019re trying to get back to her. But she\u2019s trying to call us. So, Marie, hang up so we can get through to you. While we\u2019re trying to reestablish contact with her, let me, again, explain this. Snerdley and I were talking about this during the break, because she jogged our memory. She called in 1994. She was in college, with a daughter. She was divorced and she was falling asleep in class. The professor told her to go on welfare. Get out of college and go on welfare. It did her no good to go to class. She was falling asleep — and this is one of the things I want to ask her. I don\u2019t remember exactly what I said, but she said I excoriated her, and Snerdley says, ‘I remember this, now. I think you were pretty rough on her, because we got some calls from people.\u2019 We got some calls from people who said I was too mean to her, that I was way over the top. So we\u2019ve got her back on the line now. We now go back to Marie in Pelion, South Carolina. Marie, what happened to your phone? It just disconnected on you? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I have a teenage daughter and she\u2019s doing her best to kill phones on a regular basis, and it just does that sometimes. I apologize. <\/p>\n

RUSH: No problem. I\u2019m glad that we had your number and were able to call you back. I want to start from the beginning here. I want you to take us back to 1994. The reason I want you all to hear this, is because I love these kinds of calls because they\u2019re profoundly inspirational. You called here in 1994. You were falling asleep in class. You were divorced with a daughter — the same daughter that keeps killing the phone? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir. <\/p>\n

RUSH: And the professor told her: ‘Get out of college. You\u2019re wasting your time here. Go on welfare\u2019?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, no, no. He recommended I go on welfare while I was in college so I wouldn\u2019t be falling asleep in class.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. But – how would going on welfare change your sleep patterns? Because you wouldn\u2019t have to work? <\/p>\n

CALLER: I was working full-time and going to school full-time and had a two-year-old. <\/p>\n

RUSH: All right. What did I say to you? You said I excoriated you and I remember. We were talking about it because I got some calls after your original call when people said I was too hard on you. What did I say? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, you told me that it wasn\u2019t anyone else\u2019s responsibility for my poor life decisions and the things that had happened, my ex-husband\u2019s violence and all that, and that I shouldn\u2019t expect other people to, basically, support me while I attempt to rectify those bad decisions — which at the time seemed very, very harsh. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I didn\u2019t want you to become dependent! Once you go on that stuff, once you get a check for doing nothing, regardless of how little it is, there\u2019s a comfort level that sets in. You destroy your potential. <\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s true. I did not want to do it, and the only reason I agreed to do it, like I said, is I was falling asleep in class. I was putting my grades at risk. It made sense at the time to do that — and like I said, a couple of professors who were the most well-meaning people, they wanted me to succeed, but falling asleep in class isn\u2019t conducive to that. So they pushed me to go on welfare.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Depends on the class. <\/p>\n

CALLER: This is true. I actually made it through Ecology and Evolution and slept through most of that one. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you didn\u2019t miss anything. You just missed a bunch of lies. <\/p>\n

CALLER: (Chuckling) So I called you and I was very, very upset afterwards. There were a couple of folks who called afterwards, actually, who agreed with you and called me some rather unpleasant things, not name-calling but just descriptive adjectives and so forth. So, of course, I quit listening for a while. About three months after the call, it was finals coming up. I got a letter from the local welfare office that I needed to be at the office on a particular day. I don\u2019t recall the day now, but it happened that was finals day for me. So I called the caseworker and I said, ‘You know, that\u2019s finals day. I cannot miss this day. Can we reschedule? What can I do?\u2019 and she said, ‘Well, if you\u2019re not here, you\u2019re going to lose your benefits.\u2019 <\/p>\n

RUSH: Stop right there. You pointed out that this is before welfare reform. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, this is a crucial point. Here\u2019s these welfare office people dealing with Marie here, and she\u2019s trying to do everything she can to get herself out of the circumstances that she is in. She\u2019s going to school. She is trying to prepare herself to go out, achieve and have a better life and the welfare people would not be flexible with her. In other words, were not assisting you at all in your effort to help yourself. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, not at all! As a matter of fact, as I said earlier, going up the chain and trying to get this resolved, I had one person tell me that if I said I couldn\u2019t find a babysitter, then that would get me off of it. But by then, it was purely philosophical and I said, ‘That is not my problem. My problem is this is finals day for me. I cannot miss this day,\u2019 and I wasn\u2019t willing to lie about it. <\/p>\n

RUSH: So what happened?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Eventually, I got as far up the chain as I could, and the man said basically the same thing: If you\u2019re not here then we\u2019re going to take your benefits away, and I said, ‘Well, you know where you can put your benefits,\u2019 and I went back to work. Six years later I did graduate from a four-year college with phi beta cappa, magna cum laude. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Did you maintain as rigorous a work schedule as you were maintaining when you were falling asleep in class? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, yes, sir. <\/p>\n

RUSH: You did? So you worked full-time and went to college full-time? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir. I ended up working third shift and then I would go to classes while my daughter was in school, catch a nap here and there. That went on for a couple of years, and then I met my husband now who — I know your thing about marriage, but he\u2019s the best thing that happened to me. Hey, honey, I love you! <\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s great, but I don\u2019t want to gloss over something here. You ended up magna cum laude and phi beta cappa?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You got your key? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Through all of this, you understand that all of this was in you from the get-go? You might have had some things wake you up along the way, the professors, your phone call to me. Really, you did this on your own. To what do you, when you think about it, attribute the characteristics that you\u2019ve displayed here, the stick-to-itiveness and willingness to work yourself to the bone while going to school? Where did that come from? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, it\u2019s something that, unfortunately, I\u2019ve always had and it has manifested itself in horrible ways. I hitchhiked across the country when I was 13. I was a runaway, quit school after 8th grade. I\u2019ve done always what I wanted to do. It was that same streak in me, only this time applied towards something far more productive. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And it\u2019s actually still here. I broke my back in 2001 and have a bunch of titanium in my spine, and I still work full-time. I take care of my kids. I garden. People all the time telling me: ‘You should be on disability.\u2019 I don\u2019t WANT to be on disability. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Because of your back, you broke your back? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir. <\/p>\n

RUSH: How ambulatory are you? <\/p>\n

CALLER: I can walk. I\u2019m actually — my guardian angel was doing triple time. I\u2019m very fortunate. But I had to take morphine for about two years every day and I\u2019m off that now. <\/p>\n

RUSH: That couldn\u2019t have been easy! <\/p>\n

CALLER: It wasn\u2019t, and I have my bad days. Believe me, I really do. But the same streak… I think what it really took for me was hearing that person tell me to lie and then they\u2019ll help me? I thought, ‘You know, I\u2019m trying to do what people for years have been telling me I needed to do to begin with, okay, and all of a sudden I have people telling me to lie about what I\u2019m doing?\u2019 I\u2019m doing the right thing! <\/p>\n

RUSH: They\u2019re reading from their bureaucrat policy manual. ‘Oh, if you don\u2019t show up on this date you lose your benefits!\u2019 They\u2019re not interested in you as a person. <\/p>\n

CALLER: They absolutely were not.<\/p>\n

RUSH: They weren\u2019t then and there was nothing about the US social safety net or welfare system back then that was supposed to do what it was designed to do, which was motivate people to get out of these circumstances that you were in. <\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s exactly right. And what\u2019s worse is that instead of saying, ‘Okay, you\u2019re trying to go through school. You\u2019re just starting. It\u2019s going to be a long trek, so here\u2019s how we can help,\u2019 instead of doing that, it seemed much more to me like, ‘Well, if you\u2019re not on our rolls, then that\u2019s one less our caseworker has and one less person we have to employ, so we\u2019re going to keep you where you are so we can get what you want.\u2019 <\/p>\n

RUSH: Exactly right. This all happened a long time ago. Why are we benefiting from your call today? Why did you decide to call today to tell us this? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I heard you talking earlier about the way folks with liberal perspectives tend to view people, and being in college, mind you, I started in physics for my college degree and switched over to English. So I have a minor in physics and mathematics and then English. <\/p>\n

RUSH: This is unbelievable to me! You have a major in English, a minor in physics, and in 1994 you were falling asleep in class and being advised by professors to go on welfare. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, you know. (chuckles) But what I\u2019ve found, especially between the science departments and the English departments, was the way people looked at you and the way you\u2019re considered. You\u2019re not actually a person. You are a means. It sounds horrible. This is not a blanket statement, because there are some wonderful people. Actually my advisor in the English department was a closet conservative. He\u2019d never admit it. But he and I would sit in his office and talk about how ludicrous things were. He was a great guy. He was trying to talk me into going into medical school but I didn\u2019t want to do that after my son was born. But he was a great guy and there are great people there. But the overarching culture says that you are only worth what you\u2019re going to contribute to this cause or to that cause or to the other cause. It\u2019s not, ‘You are worthwhile as a human being and you have within you the ability to do XYZ, ABC, whatever it is, and we\u2019re here to help you get there.\u2019 <\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s one of the best descriptions of the way certain liberals look at individuals that I\u2019ve ever heard. <\/p>\n

CALLER: It was shocking to actually see that in action. I can\u2019t tell you how many — and even my fellow students, of course I was a bit older than my other fellow students. But those who were kind of in my same situation, we would look at these people and we would think, ‘What is your purpose here? Is your purpose here to perpetuate your position or to help me get to my position?\u2019 and more often than not it was that they were there to perpetuate their position, which is the absolute antithesis of education!<\/p>\n

RUSH: You\u2019re exactly right. What you\u2019re describing is indoctrination. <\/p>\n

CALLER: You know, it\u2019s funny. My daughter who was two when I called you, she\u2019s now a freshman in high school. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Has she run away from home yet? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, no, sir! No, sir. We have a very different home than the one I grew up in. She\u2019s a faithful Rush fan. Too bad she can\u2019t hear this. <\/p>\n

RUSH: She\u2019s a Rush baby?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, yes, sir! Oh, yes, sir. She\u2019s been listening to you since she was born, as a matter of fact. She will go to school and she\u2019s — of course, in South Carolina it\u2019s not as bad as other parts of the country because it\u2019s fairly conservative, especially in the country where we are. But there are still elements there that she has to go in and fight about. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, it\u2019s all over the place, Marie. There are pockets but it\u2019s all over the place. It\u2019s an infestation out there the things that you\u2019ve described. Look, I have to take a quick timeout. Can you hang on just one more break?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Sure!<\/p>\n

RUSH: We\u2019ll be back continue with this in just a second, folks. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: We rejoin Marie in South Carolina. Marie, the only reason I wanted you to hold on — I don\u2019t want to interrogate you anymore, but — is I wanted to tell you how proud I am of you to hear this story. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, thank you. I want to say thank you for the tough love and it really did hurt me at the time, because I had been listening to you since 1991 in Colorado Springs, and I really, really admired you and I wanted to be that conservative person. I wanted to be that kind of person, and with the situation I found myself in, it was very difficult to be that person. So it was very, very hard. I cried. I did. It was just so hard on me. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I\u2019m sorry about that. <\/p>\n

CALLER: But it was worth it. <\/p>\n

RUSH: How long was it before you rejoined the program and the audience? <\/p>\n

CALLER: The day after I got the final notice about the welfare. I said, ‘You people are friggin\u2019 nuts!\u2019 (Laughing.)<\/p>\n

RUSH: (Laughing.)<\/p>\n

CALLER: And I want you to know you\u2019ve made my daughter\u2019s day. She\u2019ll come home get to hear this on the podcast and she\u2019ll be falling over herself. So…<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019ll tell you what I want to do. You said that you broke your back and you\u2019re ambulatory and you\u2019re on pain medicine — Morphine! That\u2019s heavy stuff — for two years. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir. <\/p>\n

RUSH: I want to do something for you, and this is not welfare. You have earned this. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Okaaaaay?<\/p>\n

RUSH: I have just the thing for your back, and that\u2019s a Select Comfort bed<\/a>. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Really? Are they really that good? <\/p>\n

RUSH: Pfft! Would I tell you if they\u2019re not? <\/p>\n

CALLER: (Giggles.) Okay. Okay. I\u2019ll shut up now. <\/p>\n

RUSH: What I want you to do after we finish here, I want you to hold on and Mr. Snerdley will come back on the phone and get all the information we need to make this happen and get it to you. You can choose whichever one you want. I would suggest you go for the big mama. Go for a king size<\/a>, if you have room for it in your bedroom. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, yes, sir. My husband would shoot me dead if I got anything smaller. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, fine. You try this, and I guarantee you, I don\u2019t know how much pain you\u2019re still in with your back, but if any bed out there can help, this bed will. <\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s great. Thank you so much. <\/p>\n

RUSH: It\u2019s the least I can do. I probably was a little hard on you. Some of these people that you talked about that called after your call, I said the reason they were hard on you was because the way they heard it was that you basically wanted to put your hand in their back pocket. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, no, as a matter of fact — <\/p>\n

RUSH: No, no. That\u2019s how they heard<\/emphasize> it. <\/p>\n

CALLER: But I wanted to be them. I wanted to be who they were, and at the time that seemed like the only way I was going to be able to do that. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, but look at you now. You\u2019ve got a major in English, a minor in physics. You\u2019ve got a great family. You finally found a good lug to marry. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, no! He\u2019s no lug. <\/p>\n

RUSH: See? I can\u2019t win on this subject. <\/p>\n

CALLER: No, no.<\/p>\n

RUSH: It\u2019s a subject I just can\u2019t win on. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush, let me tell you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: When I broke my back, for a year — my husband Mitch is not an animal person — he fed my horse twice a day. He scooped the litter box, fed the cat, fed the parrot (who constantly tried to bite him.)<\/p>\n

RUSH: (Snorts.)<\/p>\n

CALLER: He did all of these things and never once complained, and he did it for me. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. Lug is just stereotypical!<\/p>\n

CALLER: (Laughs.)<\/p>\n

RUSH: You found a great guy. It\u2019s obvious you did if he risked getting pecked by the parrot. <\/p>\n

CALLER: To all those girls who may be listening who were where I was in 1994: 12 years, 13 years seems like a long way away, but if you just hang in there — <\/p>\n

RUSH: You know, Marie, you got there long before 12 or 13 years. You\u2019re looking back now from total time. But you got there in your way. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, in a sense I did. But in another sense, I\u2019m still learning. It\u2019s still… You\u2019re going to really laugh. I work for a very large insurance company, and so when we\u2019re talking about health care, we think we\u2019re seeing the beginnings of the federal take over of the health care system. <\/p>\n

RUSH: You are. You are. <\/p>\n

CALLER: But some people will say, ‘Wouldn\u2019t it be great if you hadn\u2019t have had to wipe out your life savings because of your accident?\u2019 and I said, ‘Well, yeah, that would have been nice, but I had the savings. We were able to handle it, and I got much better care.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: And that\u2019s what it\u2019s for! That\u2019s why you save. The more I hear from you, the more admiration I have, and it\u2019s a pleasure to hear back from you again. We couldn\u2019t be happier here. Now hang on for Mr. Snerdley to get all the information from you so we can get you your Sleep Number Bed by Select Comfort<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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