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RUSH: Kathleen in Dayton, Ohio, you\u2019re up next, and thanks again for waiting. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s my pleasure, Rush. Libertarian gun owner tomorrow is my birthday dittos.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, happy birthday.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thank you very much. And I am just thrilled to talk to you. I was so angered by Joe Klein\u2019s comment about parasites like Rush Limbaugh when two-thirds of what —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Let\u2019s go back and play that bite, because this happened about two hours ago, and that\u2019s how long she\u2019s been waiting to talk about this. I want the audience listening to know what you\u2019re talking about, okay?<\/p>\n

CALLER: All right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So just hang on. Saturday night in Annapolis, Maryland, there\u2019s a panel discussion called ‘Winning the 2008 Election,\u2019 and somebody asked a question, and I\u2019m not going to repeat the question because it makes no sense, but something in the question really agitated Joe Klein of TIME Magazine. This was his answer.<\/p>\n

KLEIN: I am really getting sick and tired of people bashing the press all the time. At this point we\u2019re pretty well battered and we\u2019re losing advertising revenue, and unless we can actually have the revenue to go out there and the credibility to report these issues, all of these right-wing talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh, who are parasites on our reporting, are going to have nothing to do except sit home, twiddle their thumbs, and opine about things that they have no data for. In general, yes, we make mistakes. Yes, we — you know, we\u2019re not perfect. If you want to complain about the press, complain about the public.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, you know what he\u2019s saying? He\u2019s saying that without them, we wouldn\u2019t have a show here. I wouldn\u2019t have a show because I wouldn\u2019t have any data to report on, and of course he also complains the public\u2019s an idiot, they\u2019re losing advertising revenue, the public\u2019s dumb, and so forth and so on. That\u2019s what Kathleen wants to reply to here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And as a public relations professional who has been doing this for 17 years, the general public needs to know that I\u2019d say two-thirds of what shows up in the newspaper, on television, in a radio news report is generated by people just like me.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Absolutely! I\u2019m so glad you said this. The journalists hang around their fax machines or now their e-mail, waiting for the latest release from Clinton, Inc., or what have you. I learned that early on. When I got to New York in 1988, I had this misguided, na&iuml;ve belief that if there were profile pieces of people in the newspaper, it was because they\u2019ve done something noteworthy and they\u2019ve achieved something and everybody noticed it and so the media wanted to inform. But that\u2019s not how it is. They have flacks like you that are out there pushing this stuff, and if the flacks have a good relationship with the news people, you\u2019re going to get a favorable piece.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Absolutely. I work in a professional organization of public relations folks, and I have to say that I\u2019m in the minority as a Libertarian, as someone who has more conservative views. Most PR professionals get along extremely well with the people in the media. Talk about parasitic, the media couldn\u2019t exist without us and we couldn\u2019t exist without the media. It is a symbiotic relationship.<\/p>\n

RUSH: This woman is more right than you know, ladies and gentlemen. In addition to what this means, it means, for instance, that journalists are lazy, wait for people like you to bring \u2019em stories.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, it\u2019s not that they\u2019re lazy. I mean, some of them definitely are. It\u2019s that they\u2019re trying to shovel content into a 24-hour news chasm that because of the —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, my heart bleeds.<\/p>\n

CALLER: (Laughing.)<\/p>\n

RUSH: My heart — oh, it\u2019s so hard. Being in news is so hard. Let me ask you a pointed question.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Not about you, but in your industry, how many of the PR flacks value their relationship with the media far more than their client of the moment? For example, how many PR flacks urged their clients to actually do things that might not be good for them, just to maintain a relationship with a certain news organization, because the clients are going to come and go, but the relationship with the news organization is going to say the same. So you dump one client after whatever work needs to be done is done, another client comes along, you still want access. So is it not the case that most of these PR flacks have a little bit more allegiance to the news people than their clients?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I am sad to say that that\u2019s probably very true.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And also, I\u2019d like to make a point about Joe Klein whining about their ad revenues are going down. Their ad revenues are going down because their circulation is going down because they are less and less relevant.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, he knows that, but he\u2019s blaming people like me for it for distorting what they do, destroying their monopoly. You know, monopolists never like losing their monopoly, and they had one, and it\u2019s gone.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, absolutely. And in my profession in particular, I\u2019ve been doing this for 17 years, and I really kind of despair over the future of organizations and people, if you do what I do, because I look at my job as helping to communicate good news. I am not a flack in the sense that if you pay me enough money I\u2019ll say anything you want me to say, I have integrity and I choose the clients that I work with.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s not what I meant by flack in this case. By flack I mean you\u2019re out there giving them news ideas that they don\u2019t come up with on their own.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, they don\u2019t have time. They just don\u2019t have time.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Don\u2019t give me ‘they don\u2019t have time.\u2019 They got all the time in the world. It\u2019s called legwork. It\u2019s called putting your nose under the rug and finding out what\u2019s there. They\u2019re obsessed with one thing, and that is they\u2019ve gotta take down power, wherever it is, and that generally is Republican power that they want to take down. They want to promote Democrat power. But that\u2019s what they\u2019re taught in journalism school. You bring \u2019em something to help take down power, like the DC madam or whatever, and they\u2019ll love you. Look at Elliot Mintz. He was the PR guy for Paris Hilton. She just dumped all over him. It was his fault. He\u2019s gone. I guess he got fired, or he left on his own or whatever. But the PR flack taking the hit here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, and again publicists who work for celebrities, that\u2019s a whole different animal, that\u2019s really a whole different animal in our profession, but I think that is much closer to what the DC madam does for a living than — (laughing) — than what I do for a living, at least I\u2019d like to think so. But, yeah, this is a totally different subculture within the PR industry itself. But, you know, if people had any idea how much so-called news is completely manufactured by people like me, because I can take any set of facts, and my job is to take the set of facts that I\u2019m given and to communicate it in such a way that is most beneficial to my clients.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You don\u2019t need to convince me. I\u2019ll never forget. This is some years ago — 12, 15 years ago — some outfit in Chicago just called themselves a medical group. I forget the name of the medical group. They got a logo, put it on a fax, and they faxed out the news that the AMA was wrong about the basic food groups, that they had the pyramid inverted. This group puts it out, and the Drive-By Media ran with it, made big news on the nightly network newscast that night and so forth. It turns out the group was just a bunch of people with a fax machine. They\u2019re activists but they had no accreditation, and they just got the — ‘Oh, look at this, big news,\u2019 shakes up the existing power structure, and it turned out to be totally fraudulent.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Absolutely. And if you as a consumer, if you simply consume without questioning news from any source, any source at all, even the Rush Limbaugh Show, and if you do not scratch the surface and do any kind of due diligence to find out what is going on and who is communicating that message, if there is an angle to a story, find out who is pushing out that angle and you\u2019ll get a lot more insight into what the truth really is.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Exactly right. Thank you. Your sense of timing, by the way, is perfect, too. Thanks very much, Kathleen.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Phil in Dayton, Ohio, thanks for waiting, sir. Nice to have you on the EIB Network. Hello, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I tell you. Thank God you are saying this stuff about the media. Like the previous caller, I am also a PR hack and have been doing this for more than 30 years. (Laughing.) And I can tell you without a doubt that anything that utters forth from any Drive-By Media outlet is without a doubt almost completely false, if not completely false, including that report out of Sacramento. When you played that, I was just like screaming at the phone. I could take that thing apart, and the only thing true in that report was that you called Barack Obama or rather Shanklin called Barack Obama the magic negro. That\u2019s it. That\u2019s the only thing that was true in that entire report. The only thing that was true.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. And of course what informed them? Nothing. They went on the air totally ignorant about it. They were force fed this information by whatever news sources they trust. Those sources have an agenda, and, bam, it gets on the air. They\u2019re running a video on their website that is not ours and not mine. It was produced by enemies of this program or people that want to try to make it look worse than it is. Just a bunch of liberals out there with all kinds of black caricatures — they\u2019re putting it up there as mine. They know now it is not mine, and it\u2019s still up there.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I think you\u2019re giving them too much credit by saying that they\u2019re ignorant. I think that\u2019s kind of a thing that I would love to see you talk more about, because what you do is invaluable to this country —<\/p>\n

RUSH: What do you mean I\u2019m giving them too much credit? What are they, then?<\/p>\n

CALLER: They\u2019re out and out deceitful. They know that this is not who you are. They can\u2019t chew food and be that dumb. They just could not consume food and be that stupid to not know who you are after all this time.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So you\u2019re saying that this is a purposeful hit, and that they know exactly what they\u2019re doing.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly, exactly.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, then why do they want to make themselves look like morons and ignoramuses?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because the vast majority of the public doesn\u2019t listen to you, unfortunately —<\/p>\n

RUSH: In Sacramento the vast majority does. Their poll is going down to defeat in big numbers.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, that\u2019s true. I\u2019ll tell you, that\u2019s the only light at the end of this tunnel is that TIME Magazine is now TIME.com and that the New York Times and the Washington Post and ABC and NBC and CBS, all of these guys are going down the tubes slowly, and unfortunately too slowly for me, but slowly, but surely they\u2019re going down because more and more people are basically tuning out. They\u2019re just disgusted. Every time you turn on the TV, all you get is bad news. It\u2019s like a flood, an inundation of bad news, a deluge, and people are just going, screw it, I\u2019ll tune in tonight, kind of enthused, and that\u2019s it, and they\u2019re tuning them off. The more they do that, the more they, I think —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, look, everything you say is true. They are losing circulation, they\u2019re losing audience. But, they still have power. They\u2019ve got people believing, 35% of Democrats if you didn\u2019t see this Rasmussen poll<\/a>, 35% of Democrats in this country, people, not elected Democrats, but just people who are just Democrats, think that Bush knew that 9\/11 happened before it was going to happen — or knew it was going to happen before it did.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And that\u2019s why I say, you\u2019ve gotta stay on this because they do, yes, have too much four, and my son is on his way, even as we speak, to Iraq for his second tour.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you know, I don\u2019t like this argument they have too much power. Power is something that\u2019s earned. Nobody grants it to them. People say that about me, too. Nobody granted me any power. I earned it. They are who they are; they have to be battled as such. I\u2019m not going to sit around and say somebody needs to take their power away from them. That\u2019s theirs to be lost, and it\u2019s happening. We are in the process of doing it. The best illustration I can give you, Phil, and it\u2019ll make you feel better, Walter Cronkite was able to kill the Vietnam War with one sentence, in one telecast back in the sixties when he proclaimed it can\u2019t be won and Johnson said not only have I lost mid-America. He didn\u2019t even seek reelection because of that. Now, it\u2019s taken them four or five years to get a majority of opinion in this country against the Iraq war — if it is. I, frankly, don\u2019t even believe that\u2019s true, because if it were they wouldn\u2019t have been able to override the President\u2019s veto on their defeat bill. I don\u2019t believe the polls they put out. But, look, like I don\u2019t know how much more I can discuss the media than I already do. We\u2019re on the case, Phil, and I appreciate your call. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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