{"id":24981,"date":"2011-05-19T05:50:07","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T05:50:07","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2020-02-04T14:52:14","modified_gmt":"2020-02-04T19:52:14","slug":"toensing_plame_was_not_covert_i_wrote_the_law","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/toensing_plame_was_not_covert_i_wrote_the_law\/","title":{"rendered":"Toensing: Plame Was Not Covert! I Wrote the Law!"},"content":{"rendered":"<section>RUSH: Ah, the fireworks just erupted at the House Government Oversight Committee. Henry Waxman could not believe what he was hearing from Victoria Toensing! Yes, Henry Waxman could not believe it! He could not believe it because Victoria Toensing was saying there\u2019s no way Valerie Plame could be convert.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;How could you say that? How could you say she wasn\u2019t covert?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Well, because she wasn\u2019t. I wrote the statute.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I\u2019m not asking for your credentials.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Well, my credentials are how I know. I wrote the law. She was not covered by the law.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line is if she were covert &#8212; and I don\u2019t know if Ms. Toensing will get around to saying this. She\u2019s very cool, calm and collected &#8212; and Nostrilitis is badgering her. Folks, if there was any question that she was covert, then the independent counsel, Fitzgerald, would have pursued on that basis, rather than go after a process crime with somebody who might have lied before the grand jury, as is the case.<\/p>\n<p>If there had been anybody who had genuinely, knowingly outed Valerie Plame as a covert agent, then Fitzgerald would have had his case. Here\u2019s the point about this. On the covert agent ID act, the government has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant knew that what he said actually ID\u2019d the person as a covert agent, and Fitzgerald couldn\u2019t find anybody who fell under that law. Furthermore, they would have had to prove that that person knew that the CIA was taking affirmative measures to protect the agent\u2019s ID. There\u2019s no evidence, no indication, and there was no testimony that Scooter Libby actually knew any of those things. All of this goes to the preliminary issue. The justice department had to have known even before Fitzgerald was appointed, that the facts gathered by the preliminary investigation could not amount to a violation of either the Espionage Act and the Covert Agent ID Protection Act. The investigation should have been ended at that preliminary stage for those reasons with no independent counsel appointed.<\/p>\n<p>The justice department knew it. Mr. Comey, the Director of Central Intelligence, Mr. Tenet, they all knew it. Nobody broke that law. If somebody did, like Nostrilitis Waxman is attempting to insinuate here, then Fitzgerald would have had a case. But these were interesting fireworks out there. &#8220;How can you say she wasn\u2019t covert? Well, General Hayden told me that she was.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Toensing said, &#8220;Has he testified to that?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Are you saying that General Hayden&#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I\u2019m just saying, &#8216;All I know is, congressman, under the testimony I\u2019ve heard, nobody said they ever knew &#8212; and nobody was ever charged with knowing that she was covert,\u2019 and therefore she wasn\u2019t covered by the statute.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So we get to the crux of this, and the crux of this is that these hearings that Waxman is conducting today are nothing more than a propaganda ordeal in order to try make sure to cement in the minds of as many people as possible and the Drive-Bys are going to help this. I want to warn if you\u2019re going to waste your time watching Drive-By Media tonight, it\u2019s going to be nothing but, &#8220;She was covert! She was covert! She was covert.&#8221; It is what it is, but this is nothing more than a propaganda exercise by Waxman and the Democrats on this committee to keep the blame shifted at the White House and the highest levels. Now we spent the first hour of the program poking holes through much of the testimony of Valerie Plame, and I don\u2019t want to repeat it because it will be reviewed and relayed on our website at RushLimbaugh.com later this afternoon when we get the site updated.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: So Toensing is still testifying, and the Democrats are just skewering her over her assertion that Valerie Plame could not have been covert.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;How do you know? How do you know? How can you possibly know that?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Well, I wrote the law.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s very easy to understand this. It\u2019s simple to know this. If she were covert and she were outed, all these people that knew this would have known it supposedly, then Fitzgerald would have had a field day. He would have had a field day. He could have rung up 20 people on charges here. Interesting, I don\u2019t know if it\u2019s happened yet, but as of this morning when this program started and I had to host this program and dispense with watching, no mention of the name of Richard Armitage as the original leaker.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Here\u2019s the audio sound bite I was referring to: Henry Waxman very, very irritated that Victoria Toensing would dare challenge the assertion of the day, the order of the day that Valerie Plame Wilson was a covert agent.<\/p>\n<p>WAXMAN: I am stunned, Ms. Toensing, that you would come here with absolute conclusions that she was not a covert agent; the White House did not leak it; no one seemed to know in advance that she was a CIA agent. Do you know those facts for your own firsthand knowledge?<\/p>\n<p>TOENSING: Well, lets just take those one by one. As I said, I was there. I was the chief drafter for chairman &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>WAXMAN: I\u2019m not asking for your credentials. I\u2019m asking how you reached those conclusions. Do you &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>TOENSING: That\u2019s part of my credentials is because I know what the intent of the act was.<\/p>\n<p>WAXMAN: I\u2019m not asking what the intent of the act was.<\/p>\n<p>TOENSING: Well that\u2019s the question.<\/p>\n<p>WAXMAN: Do you know that she was not a covert agent?<\/p>\n<p>TOENSING: She is not a covert agent under the act.<\/p>\n<p>WAXMAN: Okay, so &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>TOENSING: You can call anybody anything you want to in the halls of the CIA.<\/p>\n<p>WAXMAN: General Hayden! General Hayden, head of the CIA, told me personally that she was. If I said that she was a covert agent, it wouldn\u2019t be an incorrect statement?<\/p>\n<p>TOENSING: Does he want to swear that she was a covert agent under the act?<\/p>\n<p>WAXMAN: I\u2019m trying to say as carefully as I can. He reviewed my statement, and my statement was that she was a covert agent.<\/p>\n<p>TOENSING: Well, he didn\u2019t say it was under the act.<\/p>\n<p>WAXMAN: Okay, so you\u2019re trying to define it exactly under the act.<\/p>\n<p>TOENSING: That\u2019s important.<\/p>\n<p>WAXMAN: No, no, no, no, no, no. I\u2019m not giving you &#8212; I\u2019m not yielding my time to you.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Look, you may be a witness, but you\u2019re not talking! (Laughing.) You\u2019ve gotta love Victoria Toensing.<\/p>\n<p>END TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/section>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Ah, the fireworks just erupted at the House Government Oversight Committee. Henry Waxman could not believe what he was hearing from Victoria Toensing! 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