{"id":24844,"date":"2007-03-06T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T05:50:33","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T05:50:33","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T05:50:33","slug":"the_successful_criminalization_of_politics2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2007\/03\/06\/the_successful_criminalization_of_politics2\/","title":{"rendered":"The Successful Criminalization of Politics"},"content":{"rendered":"<section>\n<p><BR\/>RUSH: The Scooter Libby verdicts were just announced. He\u2019s guilty on four of the five counts. So he\u2019s looking at 20 to 30 years in prison for this if he gets the maximum sentence on these counts. Four, five, Scooter Libby guilty. It\u2019s very, very strange, too, because the jury just this morning sent the judge a note basically telling him, ?We\u2019re not sure what he\u2019s accused of doing here.? You would think that would happen ten days ago or eight days ago when they started deliberations. I\u2019ve been doing instant message flashes back and forth with friends who were alternately trying to read the tea leaves on what these juror questions meant, and it\u2019s just impossible to do. Most people would conclude if the jury on day ten here is still trying to figure out what Libby did, that there wouldn\u2019t be anywhere near unanimity on the jury for guilt. But it apparently is just the opposite. That\u2019s why it\u2019s difficult to read these things. <\/line><BR\/><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/_06_07.Par.0002.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"233\" height=\"256\" class=\"alignright\"\/>This whole case, to me, has been a travesty. &#8220;Obstruction of justice&#8221; is a catchall charge that the prosecution uses. It\u2019s like a giant umbrella that can capture somebody for doing virtually anything. This has nothing to do with Valerie Plame. It has nothing to do with leaking her name. It has nothing to do with whether she was covert. It has everything to do with Patrick Fitzgerald having to justify his office and his appointment as a special prosecutor. Richard Armitage leaked her name. That was never part of the prosecution. The judge would not even allow the jury to know whether or not Valerie Plame was covert, which I think is an erroneously huge error. If the judge had allowed the jury to know whether she was covert or not, who knows how this would have played out? But if you ask me&#8230; This is just a wild guess here, and we won\u2019t know \u2019til we hear the jurors. Remember this is a DC jury, and there\u2019s probably a lot of Bush hatred on the jury. You just never know. <\/line><BR\/>But remember the Martha Stewart case, ladies and gentlemen. She was charged with something and convicted by the jury of something totally different. The jury just engaged in a little class envy and got Martha Stewart, basically, when you listen to the jurors come out of the courtroom and explain how what she did &#8220;hurt the little guys.&#8221; Insider trading? That\u2019s not what she was charged with! She, too, was charged with a process crime, and it will be interesting to me to hear how many of these jurors <emphasize>think <\/emphasize>that Libby outed Valerie Plame, or that Libby engaged in an effort to uncover her covert status, since that\u2019s how this case was constantly presented, even after the trial had begun, when that had nothing to do with the substance of the case. It\u2019s still how the Drive-By Media continued to portray it. So Scooter Libby has been found guilty on four of five counts in the CIA leak trial. It goes without saying, but I\u2019m going to say it anyway, that you can never, ever predict how these things are going to turn out when you watch the trial and read analysis of the trial day by day. <\/line><\/p>\n<p><BR\/>I can remember reading so many bloggers daily during the course of this trial, and I believed it all, but the problem with these bloggers is that they\u2019re much smarter than the average juror is. Their take on what happened in court &#8212; especially if you get a lawyer or two on these blogs, their take about what\u2019s happening in here &#8212; such as the numerous days that it was written on blogs that Fitzgerald had a lousy day; the prosecution was really stumped today; their witnesses can\u2019t remember anything; this is a trial about lying, and the prosecution\u2019s witnesses can\u2019t remember diddly-squat. Well, people blogging this &#8212; intentionally, unintentionally, I don\u2019t know &#8212; left the impression the prosecution\u2019s case wasn\u2019t doing all that well. But as it turns out, it was just the opposite. <\/line><BR\/>So here we have poor old Scooter Libby. Try to put yourself in his shoes. The verdicts here would seem to me to be able to cement the notion that?s been happening in American politics for a long time that you can criminalize policy. This was basically the administration trying to fight back against a bunch of lies being told by Joseph Wilson who was never brought under oath. The prosecution never questioned or doubted what Joseph Wilson or his wife were saying about this. So if you\u2019re in the habit of watching the Drive-Bys, the afternoon or evening on cable, be prepared. Because, ladies and gentlemen, there\u2019s going to be an orgy of delight on virtually all of these programs. The media is going to pat itself on the back, and be very proud of themselves for making this happen, for causing this to be the case, for being able to influence the outcome of this. Of course, it\u2019s a big slap at the Bush administration, which they\u2019ll enjoy and dig. <\/line><BR\/>I just put myself in Scooter Libby\u2019s position. Here we are in the throes of a process crime, which has nothing to do with the original charge and the original reason for the investigation. Count five is perjury. Lying to the grand jury and lying to the FBI. Those are serious charges, and Scooter said it was just his faulty memory and he wasn\u2019t sure which, and all these things going on as he conducts his job every day. It is what it is. It\u2019s unfortunate and sad. He\u2019s not a bad guy at all, and it looks like we\u2019ve got the successful criminalization of politics. I don\u2019t know the status of appeals and that sort of thing or what will happen here. There\u2019s probably some basis for it. <\/line><BR\/>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n<p><BR\/>RUSH: This is unbelievable. I knew the Drive-Bys were going to have orgasms out there over the Libby verdicts today: guilty on four of the five counts. I\u2019m watching television here, I saw a little crawl go by (I\u2019ve got the closed-captioning on) and Chris Matthews of Hardball actually said that the verdict has to do with Cheney taking the country into war! It has <emphasize>nothing <\/emphasize>to do with what this case was about. See? That\u2019s what I meant about this being somewhat similar to a Martha Stewart verdict. She was actually convicted of things by the jury that she was not charged with. You can chalk that jury up to just class envy, the &#8220;little guys&#8221; taking an opportunity to get even with a big, rich person who\u2019s a constant celebrity and knock her down to size. <\/line><BR\/>This is a DC jury. It\u2019s anti-Bush, the odds of that are pretty good, no matter how you parse the jury and no matter how you set them up. It\u2019s just a shame, but you better get ready, folks, because you\u2019re now going to have people speculating, ?This could invigorate the independent counsel, Patrick Fitzgerald. He can now decide to go even further. Since this jury found Libby guilty, why, let\u2019s go up the chain! Let\u2019s see what else we can find.? It\u2019s possible, folks. It\u2019s possible. A verdict like this could empower and encourage the prosecutor to try to get some even bigger ducks in a row. We have some people who want to talk about this. Jim in Raleigh, let\u2019s start with you here on the EIB Network, sir. Nice to have you with us, and welcome to the program.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Thank you so much. Good afternoon, Rush. I thank you for your service to our American society. I wanted to start out by arguing with you about your fears about this jury, but while I was on hold, the verdict came in, and so I bow to your superior intellect. I was going to argue that because of the three questions that the jurors had asked the judge, that perhaps they were focusing on the charge and not the periphery of the case, and that the judge, in steering the focus towards the case and maybe not allowing the issue of whether she was covert or not, maybe they were actually focusing on the charge. But once again, you\u2019ve proved that you have more insight than 99.9% of us.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Well, that\u2019s why I\u2019m host and others aren\u2019t. Look, I want to take you back to the instant messages I was flashing with people back and forth today. A lot of people assumed that these questions that the jury had just three hours ago, ?Judge, we can\u2019t figure out what he\u2019s charged with. We can\u2019t figure out what went wrong here.? People are looking at that and saying, ?What a mockery! This is an absolute joke. The jury is asking that kind of question on day ten,&#8221; and it was just a couple days ago that they asked for a definition of &#8220;reasonable doubt.&#8221; All of this led court watchers to do something that\u2019s very risky, and that\u2019s trying to interpret what all this means, because you never know. It?s not predictable. I found myself chuckling. This is an absolute joke, and I said, ?Fitzfong cannot possibly be happy to hear this question from the jury on day ten: &#8216;Judge, we can\u2019t figure out what Libby is accused of doing wrong,'&#8221; and then three hours later he\u2019s guilty on four of the five counts.<\/line><BR\/> I defy anybody to make any sense of this, and we won\u2019t know \u2019til these jurors speak, if they do. With Americans as desirous of fame these days, they probably will. I speculated, ?Well, don\u2019t get your hopes up on this. It could mean that there are just one or two in there that are holding out,? and that\u2019s the question. Somebody said, ?No, no, no, no, no, no. The judge will not entertain questions from a jury if just one or two people have a question. The whole jury has to basically be undecided about something for these questions to have any merit and dealt with by the judge.? So you had a question three hours ago: ?Judge, we can\u2019t figure out what Libby even did wrong,? and then you go guilty on four of the five counts. It just defies all explanation, which, to me. Much of this case does. Saluda, Virginia, this is Ken. Welcome to the EIB Network.<\/line><\/p>\n<p><BR\/>CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Yes, sir.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: I wanted to ask you what you thought about the possibility of a presidential pardon for Scooter Libby.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Well, that\u2019s another thing. I have no way of even giving you an indication. I have no gut sense on that myself. If there is to be a pardon of Scooter Libby, it won\u2019t happen \u2019til Bush\u2019s last week in office. He\u2019s not going to do it now. There\u2019s too much to do. He needs Congress on Iraq. He needs as much help as he can get with the war on terror. I wouldn\u2019t look for that any time soon. As to whether Bush would do this upon leaving office? Fifty-50 ods are the best I could give you. It\u2019s entirely possible.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Thank you.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: You bet. Jack in Boston, you\u2019re next. The EIB Network and El Rushbo. Hello, sir.<\/line><BR\/><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/_06_07.Par.0011.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"249\" height=\"293\" class=\"alignright\"\/>CALLER: Yeah, Rush, I have one comment, and that\u2019s: <emphasize> and Sandy Berger goes free?<\/emphasize><\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Yep. The justice department didn\u2019t even pursue Sandy <emphasize>Burglar. <\/emphasize>He got community service and, I think, a fine. He also lost his security clearance, but guess what? Sandy Burglar gets his security clearance back just in time to rejoin the Hillary Clinton administration in 2009.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: What Sandy Burglar did was a thousand times, a million times more serious than the Scooter Libby thing.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Well, yes, on the surface it is. The one thing that you should take away from this &#8212; I make this comment regardless of the Scooter Libby verdicts here and what he did or didn\u2019t do &#8212; is: if the feds ever come calling on you, if the FBI or anybody ever comes calling on you to ask you questions about something, do one of two things. Call a lawyer, and don\u2019t talk to them until you\u2019ve gotten advice from a lawyer, or number two, do not lie to them. Prosecutors, like anybody else, will take the route of the least resistance in order to get a conviction. It\u2019s what these people are all about. Prosecutors don\u2019t go to court for any other reason, and they don\u2019t pursue people to find them innocent. They pursue people to find them guilty. Don\u2019t lie to them, because the same thing can happen.<\/line><BR\/>It?s what Martha Stewart did. She didn\u2019t get a lawyer. She thought she was scoring points by cooperating. It turned out that they got her on lying, but that\u2019s not what she was convicted of if you listen to the jurors in her trial. Now, my reason for saying this is, because when you start lying &#8212; when the FBI and the feds come calling and they\u2019re conducting an investigation into anything, you start lying &#8212; and here comes that giant umbrella called obstruction of justice, and that basically means if you send them on a wild-goose chase, if you lie to them about things and it causes them to go investigate, they will bring the hammer down on you like you can\u2019t believe. You have true believers here, and some of these prosecutors &#8212; some of these federal prosecutors, some of these US attorneys &#8212; are some of the best lawyers in the country, and they come out of law school gung-ho. <\/line><BR\/>They all believe in the sanctity of federal investigations. You lie to them, and they come get you. Now, I know you\u2019re saying, ?Well, what about Clinton? Clinton lied under oath in grand jury testimony.? Yes, and he was found in contempt by a federal judge, and he lost his law license for a while. But he didn\u2019t get any jail time over it, which was probably because he\u2019s president of the United States. Don\u2019t forget that Ken Starr, the independent counsel there, didn\u2019t really bring any charges of any substance. So, that\u2019s a little piece of advice. That\u2019s what they got Libby on and that\u2019s what they were pursuing him on because they had nothing else in this case. <\/line><BR\/>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n<p><BR\/>RUSH: One of the questions the jury came out and asked this morning was, ?Judge, is it a crime if Libby lied to Matt Cooper?? He\u2019s a journalist, a reporter for TIME Magazine, and the judge said, ?Well, for better or worse, it\u2019s not a crime to lie to a journalist.? Yet that\u2019s one of the guilty counts, that he lied to the FBI about his conversations with Matt Cooper, and he also lied to the FBI about his conversations with Tim Russert. <\/line><BR\/>Now, Libby\u2019s defense attorney, Ted Wells, took to the microphone mere moments ago and said they\u2019re going to do two things. They\u2019re going to make a motion for a new trial on the basis that these verdicts make no sense with what questions the jurors were asking and the testimony. Then when that fails &#8212; and it will. I mean they gotta ask this judge to basically do a new trial, and the judge is not going to say, ?Yeah, I agree with you. This thing is a travesty,? because then the judge is saying, ?I should have stopped it earlier.? So that motion will fail, and they will go to the appeal. The idea they have a new trial and throw it out? That won\u2019t happen. <\/line><BR\/>Of course, in this case, who knows? Obviously you get an appeal on this, the opportunity for an appeal, and the grounds here will be, ?Those jurors had no clue what they were deciding. Based on the questions that they were asking, these jurors were spinning in there, and didn\u2019t even know what this case is about. It has to be retried.? They\u2019ll probably say something about the judge\u2019s jury instructions weren\u2019t good. They\u2019ll probably point out that Libby wanted a lot of documents that the government has entered into evidence, and the government wouldn\u2019t let \u2019em, and the judge sided with the government. There are some grounds here for an appeal, and the Libby lawyer said (as all lawyers who lose do) that he\u2019s totally confident that Libby, in time, will be vindicated. Peter in Rochester, New York. Welcome, sir, to the EIB Network. Hello.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Oh, hi, Rush. Thank God you got your hearing. Listen, I believe that Scooter Libby got what he deserved, and I don\u2019t think that he\u2019s a good guy. If you remember, he was on the defense team who defended Marc Rich going way back, and Marc Rich was really kind of a disgusting person.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute. That\u2019s not how the justice system works! I\u2019m not sure he defended Rich or if he represented Rich in his appeal to Clinton for a pardon, but that\u2019s not how the justice system works. See, you would have made a good juror in this case, because you\u2019re saying, ?Okay, Libby is a scoundrel. He works for Cheney. He works for Bush, and he helped Marc Rich. Guilty.?<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: The other thing &#8212;<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: No, no, no, no. You need to be embarrassed about that. Peter, you really can\u2019t mean what you just said to me.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Why?<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Well, because that\u2019s not how the justice system works. Sadly, I guess it does. But you, you want to convict Libby &#8212;<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Ever hear of karma?<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: No, you want to convict Libby based on zero evidence in the case. You think Libby got what he deserved and you cited things that have nothing to do in this case.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Well, in a sense you\u2019re right. I?m talking in a general sense about karma. In the general term of karma, Scooter Libby defended a skunk, and now he himself got himself in jail &#8212; and wouldn\u2019t it be ironic if just as Rich was pardoned by Clinton, Bush pardoned Libby, who defended Rich?<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: I guess if it would be karmatic, it could be ironic, but you\u2019re getting into things metaphysical here.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: That\u2019s right.<\/line><\/p>\n<p><BR\/>RUSH: And this case is about facts and so forth. Your call is fascinating to me because we could have had ten or 12 people or ten or 11 people just like you on this jury. You sound like a Martha Stewart juror. &#8220;He deserves to get this because karma needs to come in!? There are roots of this. Don\u2019t seek vengeance. Let higher powers take care of that for you. There are all kinds of rationalizations. Reno, Nevada. Hal, you\u2019re next. It\u2019s great to have you with us.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Yes, Rush. During her, I think, \u201998 grand jury testimony, Hillary Clinton answered under oath, &#8220;I don\u2019t remember&#8221; at least 250 times. Where\u2019s the prosecution? Look at the difference here.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Yeah, I know. I absolutely know. But there\u2019s some things about the criminal justice system you have to know, and it\u2019s &#8212;<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: It\u2019s against the law to be a Republican.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: In Washington, it is. With a DC jury and a Bush administration and a Drive-By Media that\u2019s been trying to drive \u2019em out of office for four or five years you\u2019re damn right it\u2019s against the law to be a Republican in the eyes of many people. You know, Hillary had all kinds of protection. Libby didn\u2019t testify. I wonder if they\u2019re rethinking that. Libby did not testify in this case, but it boils down here that the jury was made to believe that there was some giant cover-up here to protect people higher up in the Bush administration, and this is as close as they could get. As I mentioned earlier, if Fitzpatrick wants to, he could take this verdict and look at it as red meat and say, &#8220;Man, I\u2019ve got all kinds of possibilities and potential here,&#8221; if he thinks that there are other things to pursue. Vero Beach, Florida. Hi Jim, welcome to the program.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Hello?<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Yes, sir, Jim, you\u2019re on the EIB Network. Your big show biz break.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Yes. Thanks. Hey, I\u2019ve got a problem with all this. This whole case is costing us millions of dollars. I love the president. I truly do. Why doesn\u2019t anyone stand up and say hey, and just come out and say, like you do, and say the truth, say, Well, you know, this is all about nothing. It\u2019s costing you the taxpayers a fortune for absolutely nothing.&#8221;<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: I\u2019ll tell you why. That\u2019s a great question. You\u2019re asking why the administration didn\u2019t pipe up and say something?<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Yes.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: They\u2019re scared of the prosecutor.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Why?<\/line><\/p>\n<p><BR\/>RUSH: Because he could come after \u2019em. This guy could do anything. These guy have limitless power. Federal prosecutors have more money than the people in this administration combined. If this guy gets his nose out of joint by something that Cheney or Bush might say, or anybody else in the administration, I\u2019ll guarantee you people inside the administration have been itching to go public with a whole bunch of things, but they don\u2019t dare because there is a natural fear of prosecutors, particularly federal prosecutors.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Who hired him?<\/line><BR\/><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/_06_07.Par.0014.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"176\" height=\"195\" class=\"alignright\"\/>RUSH: Bush did &#8212; the justice department did &#8212; but Bush can\u2019t come out and fire the guy. I mean, he could, but there are too many political ramifications, and Bush has other agenda items that he wants to get done.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Well, I understand the agenda items. Rush, I just don\u2019t get it sometimes. I have great respect for the president, but there are so many times it\u2019s like he doesn\u2019t stand up and say, ?This is how it is.? Just tell us. I think people would believe him. And the Democrats say some of the dumbest things &#8212;<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Look, as I\u2019ve said before: the president is not leading a movement. He\u2019s a Republican. He\u2019s not a conservative. He\u2019s conservative on certain things, but he doesn\u2019t view himself as leading a movement, and you consider yourself conservative, correct?<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Yes.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: You consider yourself a movement conservative, and it\u2019s what I said yesterday. One of the reasons so many people are supporting Ann Coulter is because she fights. She stands up and she responds to some of this stuff that the left throws out.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Yes.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: She\u2019s got a lot more defenders than she does detractors, as do I, but the people &#8212; the conservatives in this country &#8212; are hungering for just the kind of fight you\u2019re talking about. But when you\u2019re talking about a legal case and a federal prosecutor, Jim, it ain\u2019t going to happen. There\u2019s morbid fear of these people.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: How does he lose his power eventually, this prosecutor? At what point is he taken off and no longer is a prosecutor? <\/line><BR\/>RUSH: It\u2019s all different, but this is a great argument. The independent counsel law, the Democrats wanted to get rid of it after the Clinton administration, and Bush gets in office, now they love the independent counsel law. In this case, James Comey, who was the acting attorney general when John Ashcroft retired, or resigned, granted unlimited authority and gave Patrick Fitzgerald the unlimited authority of the justice department to pursue anything he thought relevant to this case. When a prosecutor has that much power over and above what he normally has in the federal system, people who want to speak up and say things cower, especially after the indictments have come down &#8212; or come up, depending on your legal preference &#8212; and you\u2019re not part of it, you shut up. You circle the wagons and protect everybody, protect yourselves.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: What can we do about it?<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Nothing.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: What can we as people?<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: The judicial system\u2019s not up to a vote.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: I know.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Just like science isn\u2019t. There\u2019s not a whole lot you can do. You could write justice department letters. It\u2019s not going to matter a hill of beans. In this case, I know that you want to do something about it because you think there\u2019s gross injustices going on. The best thing to do is understand the judicial system. You know, people say it\u2019s about justice. In many cases, it\u2019s not about justice at all. It\u2019s about politics. This is purely a political case. Scooter Libby is as high as Fitzgerald could get. He wanted Cheney. He wanted Rove. This is as high as he could get. This is an indictment against the Bush administration, and this is going to be portrayed as a guilty verdict against the Bush administration for criminalizing policy. Fitzgerald is still talking. I have no clue what he\u2019s saying. I\u2019ve gotta take a break. I\u2019m going to listen in to a little bit of it. Jim, thanks for the call. I appreciate it. <\/line><\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, you can sit there and you can say, &amp;ldquo;Yeah, Sandy Burglar is walking free. There\u2019s injustice going on here,&amp;rdquo; but don\u2019t forget Congressman William Jefferson (Democrat-Louisiana) and his $90,000 in cold cash. All of these rumors of an indictment coming down the pike and he\u2019s sitting there on the homeland security committee! The same justice department that did not pursue Sandy Burglar doesn\u2019t appear to be excited about Congressman William Jefferson (Democrat-Louisiana). Yet they burnt a path to Scooter Libby because Scooter Libby takes them to the Bush administration. Fitzgerald said &#8212; this is the only reason I was interested in what he was saying &#8212; the investigation is &#8216;inactive\u2019 and he has no plans to file any other charges. John in St. Louis. Welcome, sir, to the EIB Network.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Hey, good afternoon, Rush. It\u2019s a pleasure to talk to you. I know one of the things you like to go back to is that&#8230;the Plame leak, she wasn\u2019t covert, that there\u2019s no underlying crime there, and it\u2019s a process crime. I know that\u2019s something you like to get into, but I think I could demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that she was covert. There was a television program on PBS Frontline a couple weeks ago, called, like, News Wars. <\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Just &#8212; <\/p>\n<p>CALLER: During that show, they interviewed an FBI agent that is involved in the &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Just &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: &#8212; investigation of leaks. There\u2019s a division of the FBI that does that, and they had this FBI guy come on and say, &amp;ldquo;We submit a questionnaire to the victim agency, and if they answer in the affirmative these 11 questions, then there was a crime worth investigating.&amp;rdquo; The only person that could convey covert status on someone would be the victim agency. It\u2019s not the media or, you know &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I know, but you\u2019re heading down the wrong path on this because this is one of the flash points of this whole trial is whether or not she was covert.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Nobody knows.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Well, they do. The CIA knows.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Nobody public.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Whoever conferred covert status on her knows, don\u2019t they?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Nobody knows <emphasize>publicly. <\/emphasize>You don\u2019t know. I don\u2019t know. The judge said he doesn\u2019t know when he was talking to the jury. The judge said he doesn\u2019t know whether she was covert or not. But all of this is irrelevant. I read a piece by Clarice Feldman at the AmericanThinker.com, which is far more credible to me than PBS and Frontline. She said this whole thing has been a bait-and-switch by the CIA in order to get back at the Bush administration for George Tenet taking it on the chin for weapons of mass destruction. This whole thing is the CIA trying to cover its rear end for its own mistakes about weapons of mass destruction, blaming Bush and trying to get back at him. It\u2019s internecine Washington politics to the core here.<\/p>\n<p>The fact that they wouldn\u2019t say whether she\u2019s covert is not indicative of anything. They\u2019re trying to keep it quiet. But Armitage was the original leaker. What her status was and whether she was outed, was not what the case was about. Fitzgerald didn\u2019t bring one charge on that basis. He didn\u2019t indict anybody on the basis that a covert agent was outed. But the Drive-By Media continued to portray that that\u2019s what the case was about. They totally took up the defense of poorly old Valerie Plame and poor old Joe Wilson &#8212; who is a proven liar over and over again, who was never brought under oath. These are the things that upset me about this case. Wilson was never questioned. He had a champion in the special prosecutor here, and as did Valerie Plame Wilson herself. Had the status, in fact, been known and had the judge been able to tell the jury whether she was covert or not, and if she wasn\u2019t &#8212; and Victoria Toensing who wrote the law, by the way, that penalizes and punishes people for outing covert agents has said this case doesn\u2019t even approach the intent or even the outer boundaries of the law. It doesn\u2019t even get anywhere near it. She\u2019s not the kind of agent the law was written to protect &#8212; and she wrote the law. <\/p>\n<p>So the idea here that some great CIA operation was compromised by Scooter Libby is absurd. If anybody compromised, it was Armitage, who wasn\u2019t pursued by the independent counsel or anybody else at all. You gotta understand what this case is about. This case is about Washington politics and getting even. You don\u2019t know, folks, the strife when this weapons of mass destruction thing didn\u2019t pan out the way everybody had thought based on what the testimony of other people were at the UN and the Security Council and so forth. George Tenet was out there taking all kinds of heat, and the guys at the CIA rallied around and said, &#8216;We\u2019re not taking the heat for this! We\u2019re not going to let this be dumped on us.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>So here came this request &#8212; pursued by the media, New York Times and others, and the CIA &#8212; to find out what happened here. We\u2019ve had somebody\u2019s status or an employee &#8212; that\u2019s a key word, by the way. When the CIA asked the justice department to look into this, they said a CIA \u2019employee,\u2019 not &#8216;agent.\u2019 A CIA employee\u2019s status has been compromised, blah, blah, blah, and that got this whole ball rolling. So there\u2019s so much more than what this is all about. You come up with a jury here that&#8230; Until I hear from the jurors, it\u2019s going to be difficult to speculate what they thought the case was about. But their notes indicate they were confused. They were totally confused. <\/p>\n<p>&amp;ldquo;Judge, is it a crime to lie to Matt Cooper?&amp;rdquo; <\/p>\n<p>&#8216;No, it\u2019s not, jury.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>&amp;ldquo;Well, what is it actually Scooter Libby is accused of doing?&amp;rdquo; <\/p>\n<p>They asked that question three and a half or four hours before the verdict!<\/p>\n<p>END TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>*Note: Links to content outside RushLimbaugh.com usually become inactive over time.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.microsoft.com\/windows\/windowsmedia\/en\/download\/default.asp\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/_06_07.Par.0005.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"240\" height=\"18\" class=\"alignleft\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: The Scooter Libby verdicts were just announced. He\u2019s guilty on four of the five counts. 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