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RUSH: Here\u2019s John in Cleveland, New York. You\u2019re next, sir, on the EIB Network.<\/line>CALLER: Hey, Rush, blood-boiling dittos to you.<\/line>RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/line>CALLER: Hey I got a question about this Libby business. I don\u2019t understand why it\u2019s not a crime for Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson to do what they did, because the way I understand it, they were both CIA employees. She was in a position to send her husband on a fact finding trip to Niger, to investigate whether Hussein was trying to buy yellow cake uranium, right? That makes him an employee, too, because he got paid. So they\u2019re both CIA employees. He came back and he lied about his findings in his New York Times editorial. So what they did was a coup attempt to try to discredit Bush\u2019s foreign policy, US foreign policy. They tried to undermine that. I don\u2019t understand why that\u2019s not a crime, Rush.<\/line>RUSH: Well, I don\u2019t know that it\u2019s a crime, but the —<\/line>CALLER: It is not a crime for a federal employee to undermine US foreign policy? I don\u2019t get that.<\/line>RUSH: Well, look, I don\u2019t know that that is a crime, and to be technical, Plame recommended her husband go, but she didn\u2019t have the power to send him. She had to recommend him to higher-ups. It was higher-ups that signed off on it. Is lying in the New York Times a crime? It\u2019s not. There\u2019s freedom of the press. They can say or do, whatever they want to do. That\u2019s not the question. The question is if you know what you just said to be true. I know it to be true. Patrick Fitzgerald was clueless. I really don\u2019t know that he knew. Some people think that, ?Gosh, Rush, he\u2019s a US attorney, a special prosecutor! The guy has to know.? Maybe not. There\u2019s no indication that anything that Patrick Fitzgerald has said that he has any doubts about what Joe Wilson said in his op-ed is true. To me, it\u2019s almost as though the source authority for Patrick Fitzgerald was left-wing blogs. <\/line>The source authority for Patrick Fitzgerald was Joe Wilson. Joe Wilson was never put under oath. Joe Wilson was never brought in to testify about any of this. It just seems from right off the top that his version of events was accepted without question. Now, somebody, you would think, in the special counsel\u2019s office would have exposed themselves to alternative theories and the Senate intelligence committee\u2019s report on Wilson\u2019s trip and would have found out that there\u2019s conflict here, that Wilson may not have told the truth in that op-ed. Well, he didn\u2019t tell the truth. If somebody in the office of the independent counsel knew this, they had to totally ignore it. I\u2019m not sure they did. This is Washington. You have to understand that people in Washington, liberals, look at conservative media as it\u2019s from Mars. It\u2019s not to be taken seriously. Conservatives, too, are circus acts. Like animals in the zoo, you watch \u2019em. You have fun yukking them up and so forth. Occasionally they get out and attack somebody, and you gotta get serious with them. <\/line><\/p>\n

I don\u2019t know what Fitzgerald\u2019s political orientation is, his party ID. I have no clue. You would assume he\u2019s Republican because he\u2019s a US attorney in Chicago and that the Bush administration puts Republican US attorneys in, but we can\u2019t assume that because it didn\u2019t happen. I don\u2019t know. I don\u2019t know that that matters. But I don\u2019t know how, if anybody in that office knew of the second opinion of Joe Wilson, how it had no effect on them. It\u2019s almost like they didn\u2019t know. As I said, there\u2019s two alternative versions of truth here that just boggle the mind. You\u2019re sitting out there, John, and you know what you know. He may not have exposed himself. He may not know it. In all of his press conferences, Joe Wilson is an angel. Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame were innocent, angelic victims here — and, by the way, get ready: Wilson\u2019s all over TV tonight. He\u2019s going to be on PMSNBC. He?s going to be on CNN twice. He\u2019s going to be on Larry King Alive. He\u2019s going to be on 180 with Anderson Cooper. Kurt, in my adopted hometown of Sacramento, California, hello.<\/line>CALLER: Hey, good morning, Rush. Hey, I\u2019m tired. I\u2019m almost ready to throw that hat it. I just don\u2019t see the alternative media working. We\u2019re not driving any agenda. You know, I hear how nobody can win on negative campaigning, yet they sweep in. You know, here\u2019s Libby, he gets convicted on bull — and you know, William Jefferson (D-LA) is caught with $90,000 cash. You can\u2019t even get an investigation on the guy!<\/line>RUSH: No, no, there\u2019s an investigation. It just doesn\u2019t seem to be going anywhere.<\/line>CALLER: Well, it\u2019s frustrating. I gotta tell you, I mean I\u2019d love to hear some pep talk, but at the same time, I\u2019m just tired of being kicked, you know, and that\u2019s what it feels like as a Republican.<\/line>RUSH: I know. It\u2019s what I said earlier. There are gazillions like you out there today. This is the kind of thing that may do more positive to spur Republicans and conservatives across the country into action than anything else the Democrats could have done. But, don\u2019t be too down. I tried to be honest with you. We\u2019re talking Washington here. Of course the new media doesn\u2019t have any power in Washington, and it never will. Washington is a lib-run town. The media and the social aspects and the bureaucracies there are run by liberal Democrats. It\u2019s just the case. Republicans are interlopers and intruders. Again, I hate to keep bringing up Reagan\u2019s name. It\u2019s what made him so special. He was able to get all around it and contravene it and in fact nullify it and dominate it for two terms. Well, the Iran-Contra thing came up, that was a bit of a problem, but the new media is having profound effect with the American people. <\/line>The new media is having a profound effect in moving agendas forward. You can\u2019t deny that with the Republican victory in the House for the first time in 40 years in 1994, and Bush\u2019s two wins in 2000 and 2004. I\u2019m not trying to give you a phony pep talk here, but you\u2019re making the mistake of thinking that the new media has power in Washington. It doesn\u2019t. ?But, Rush, but, Rush, there is all kinds of conservative media in Washington.? Yeah, I know. And how often do you get frustrated when you read these people that they are caving or they\u2019re moderating their behavior to get along with the left? They\u2019re saying things so liberals will like them and don\u2019t criticize them. Conservatism\u2019s strength is with the people. As I said earlier, look, it\u2019s just the way it is. How many people do you know, conservatives in college, who just thirst for becoming a bureaucrat in the state department — or a bureaucrat at the CIA or a bureaucrat in the Pentagon? Liberals, they aspire to this. They believe government is the beginning and end of life, and they think government determines policy all over and they want to dominate that. <\/line><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve had a story the past couple days, but I haven\u2019t had a chance to get to it. The University of California Irvine has gone out, and I forget the funding for this, how it came about, but I think the number is $100 million. I\u2019m not sure. They\u2019re going to start a law school at the University of California at Irvine. It is totally unnecessary. There are more than enough lawyers for the problems that exist in California. Yet all this funding is being made available to start a law school there. Well, I dug a little further. I think I found this at AmericanThinker.com<\/a>. The purpose of the law school is to train liberal activist lawyers. Lawyers that will work for organizations like the ACLU and the AARP and other liberal organizations like that. Lawyers who will be trained to take on the administration and deny them the right to prosecute the war under the commander-in-chief provisions of the Constitution, as in lawyers who have been trying to undermine military tribunals and the interrogation of prisoners. <\/line>It\u2019s a left-wing law school that\u2019s being constructed. This is what the left does. They aspire to these things. Why don\u2019t conservatives mount their own? They have. But it takes awhile. Liberals have been doing this for decades. But these are things that liberals aspire to. Conservatives aspire to different things. A lot of conservatives do not aspire to be oriented in groups. They\u2019re individuals and so forth, and they have their aspirations. How do we go out and change all that? I don\u2019t know. I don\u2019t have enough time to get into that. I\u2019m just giving you a definition right now of the status quo of things. Conservatives, particularly the new media, connect with millions of Americans on the basis that informed Americans will show up and vote and will triumph in the electoral process and send people to elective office that will ostensibly X, Y and Z, based on their campaign promises and so forth. <\/line>We get sandbagged sometimes because they get there and after awhile they forget why they got there and they start trying to make the liberals like them and the cycle keeps repeating. But you can\u2019t throw your hat in the ring and say to hell with it, because you\u2019re just ceding things. There has been a lot of progress taking place. Mark my words. The libs here are poking the hibernating bear and they\u2019re going to wake the bear. You\u2019re mad. Everybody that\u2019s called me today is fit to be tied over this. This can do more to revive a hibernating conservative movement than anybody else could, plus the liberals and the Democrats own defeat with the US military and so forth. So don\u2019t cash in the chips. It\u2019s way too soon to do that. That\u2019s not even an option. I don\u2019t want to hear about it.<\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: So we\u2019ll move on back to the phones with a very, very limited amount of busy broadcast time here. Victoria in New York City, thank you for waiting. Your turn to launch.<\/line>CALLER: Thank you, Dr. Rush. I\u2019m so, so honored to speak to you.<\/line>RUSH: Thank you very much.<\/line>CALLER: I?ve been listening to you since you were local here, first day.<\/line>RUSH: Ah, that would be July 4th, 1988.<\/line>CALLER: That is, yes, sir. I called to say that one of the jurors had contact with someone from the outside during the trial while they were — I think while they were already — whatever the word is —<\/line>RUSH: Deliberating?<\/line>CALLER: That\u2019s the word, deliberating. A senior moment I have from time to time. Waiting, holding on, I got a little older. Anyhow, and received information that this juror wasn\u2019t supposed to have, and he allegedly shared that information with the other jurors. There should have been an immediate mistrial. However —<\/line>RUSH: Well, now, wait. I didn\u2019t hear that. The juror shared the information with the other jurors? I heard a juror exposed herself or himself (it was a her, right?) and it was a decorator or some kind of thing —<\/line>CALLER: Yes.<\/line>RUSH: — or an art person had seen some media, and the judge said, ?You\u2019re gone,? and the prosecution wanted the alternate on there and the defense said, “No, we\u2019ll go with 11,” and the judge said, “All right, we\u2019ll go with 11.” I didn\u2019t hear that the juror shared whatever she saw in the media with the other jurors.<\/line>CALLER: Well, the report was that she had shared the information, and they had found out that she shared the information but decided only to make that other juror, the juror that shared the information drop out and they weren\u2019t going to replace her, and I think that is an automatic mistrial.<\/line>RUSH: Well, but it wasn\u2019t.<\/line>CALLER: No, it wasn\u2019t.<\/line>RUSH: The trial is over, and I don\u2019t know. The defense is going to appeal this. I don\u2019t know on what grounds. They\u2019re going to ask for two things. They\u2019re going to ask for a retrial. They will not get a retrial. You can probably make book on that. An appeal is not likely at all. The odds of getting an appeal here are very, very, very, very slim, ladies and gentlemen. I\u2019m just speaking statistically. Not related to the specifics of this case, but statistically, getting an appellate court to look at the trial and say, ?Yeah, the judge screwed up here,? this doesn\u2019t happen much. It does, but not enough statistically to make book on it. <\/line><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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