{"id":246322,"date":"2017-09-07T12:45:00","date_gmt":"2017-09-07T16:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/?p=246322"},"modified":"2017-09-11T15:39:17","modified_gmt":"2017-09-11T19:39:17","slug":"theories-on-trumps-deal-with-chuck-and-nancy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2017\/09\/07\/theories-on-trumps-deal-with-chuck-and-nancy\/","title":{"rendered":"Theories on Trump\u2019s Deal with Chuck and Nancy"},"content":{"rendered":"

RUSH: I can\u2019t tell you the number of people who reacted to me. It was about 2:30 yesterday, 30 minutes left in the program. We had the audio sound bites of Donald Trump speaking affectionately of “Chuck and Nancy,” how he enjoyed working with them<\/a>. They came together on a deal to raise the debt limit, and Trump praised raising the debt limit and said it was always gonna happen \u2019cause it\u2019s so important. They did everything. They did a deal for everything except the DACA kids. That was left out of the deal.<\/p>\n

\"\"I can\u2019t tell you the number of people asking, “When did Trump become a Democrat overnight? What just happened here? Trump\u2019s talking a…” I was faced with a monumental task last night of trying to explain this to them. I can\u2019t tell you the number of people not mad at me, but trying to figure out what\u2019s going on. And so I evolved, developed some explanations for this that I think have weight. It\u2019s not just one answer that explains this. There are many, and at the top of the list is something I\u2019ve been trying to tell people about since Trump got into this: He\u2019s not ideological.<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve trying to tell everybody he doesn\u2019t see Chuck Schumer the way his voters do. He just sees Chuck Schumer as another New Yorker who may be dumb, but he doesn\u2019t see him as a liberal. He sees him as an obstacle, he sees him as a guy that he can make a deal with. But he doesn\u2019t see him the way we do because he\u2019s not ideological. At the same time, how many of you…? What really happened? What happened was that Trump kind of stuck it to Ryan and McConnell, didn\u2019t he? And I have to tell you, I mean, there\u2019s a lot of people out there that probably were very happy with that, but not happy with the way he did it.<\/p>\n

“I mean, do you have to make a deal with Pelosi and Schumer in order to stick it to Ryan and McConnell?” Well, if you do, he did it. Now there are two theories on what the reaction is gonna be. One theory holds that this is the smartest thing Trump could have ever done. This is like bringing in, call up a rookie from the minor leagues who knows what to do on day one. It\u2019s taken Trump six months, but he\u2019s finally figured this all out, and he\u2019s had nothing but trouble from his own party.<\/p>\n

\"\"He\u2019s had nothing but obstruction, nothing but disrespect, nothing but a bunch of lying. On Obamacare repeal and replace, on tax reform, on whatever it is, the Republican leadership in the House and Senate has told Trump to go to (Raspberry!), and they haven\u2019t done (Raspberry!) for him. While all that\u2019s been going on, he has been beaten up by the media more than any person in my lifetime. Not just president. Trump (I happen to know this) is a sensitive person. He\u2019s got a tough exterior. But nobody likes this. Nobody likes being beat up.<\/p>\n

He doesn\u2019t like having to go out there and make jokes about the fake media. He doesn\u2019t like this. The alternative is much better. Being liked by him. The Republicans are afflicted by the same thing. But the Republicans, even they have not taken the abuse Trump has. Okay, so he cuts the deal with Pelosi and Schumer and calls them “Nancy and Chuck,” and he does this after Ivanka enters the room, and he does this pretty much in front of Mitch and Ryan. And they\u2019re left to go to a press conference and go ba-da ba-da ba-da ba-da.<\/p>\n

Okay, so the reaction. One theory holds that this is gonna bring the Republican leadership in line, that Trump has brilliantly maneuvered things here by making a deal with these guys. He sent the signal to Ryan and McConnell that if you don\u2019t get on board with me, you guys may be the majority over there, but you\u2019re not gonna run diddly-squat \u2019cause I\u2019m gonna be doing deals with them. And this is gonna bring McConnell and Ryan around and start working with Trump. What do you think of that theory, Mister Snerdley? (interruption) You don\u2019t buy it. Well, wait \u2019til the second theory.<\/p>\n

But as an adjunct to that, I have to tell you, I have to repeat this. If just at any time in the past six months or any time in the next six, if for just three months Ryan and McConnell would work with Trump to advance his agenda, they would own everything for who knows how long. If they would have repealed and replaced Obamacare, if they would have then moved on to tax cuts and country real tax reform, and if they had built the wall, I don\u2019t care what Chuck and Nancy do, and I don\u2019t care what the Republicans do after that.<\/p>\n

If those three things had serious action with an appearance of unity within the Republican Party on those issues, the Democrats wouldn\u2019t stand a prayer for 25 years. That\u2019s what\u2019s so frustrating about this to me. If the Republicans had simply worked with Trump! He won the election on the basis of specific issues. He had a mandate, but it\u2019s not theirs. The establishment mandate is whatever the donors demand — and the big donors run that roost, and that would be the Chamber of Commerce and lobbyists.<\/p>\n

\"\"And that\u2019s who Republicans and Democrats are gonna answer to. But just think, folks. Just after three months, it was all it took! If they could have just bitten the bullet for three months! Or if they would bite the bullet for three months. Now, that brings us to a point about this debt deal. It\u2019s only for three months and they gotta be renewing it at Christmastime so the Democrats are gonna be bringing up the threat of a government shutdown again in December, at Christmastime and the Republicans gonna have to bite the bullet again, continually losing.<\/p>\n

The other theory, though… (interruption) You disagree with the first one? (interruption) Snerdley, this theory might appeal to you. You might think this is… (interruption) You\u2019re not gonna like it, but, I mean, it might appeal to you. The other theory is that privately McConnell and Ryan are not bothered at all about this. That they absolutely love this getting done, no matter it\u2019s a three-month deal or a one-month, they don\u2019t care. They just want… When they\u2019re in the majority, they want the picture that Washington is working.<\/p>\n

Just the image out there that things are getting done and if they don\u2019t have to do it, all the better. They\u2019re in the majority and Washington\u2019s working. Oh, hallelujah, Washington\u2019s working! It doesn\u2019t matter what\u2019s getting done, doesn\u2019t matter who does what or who doesn\u2019t. There isn\u2019t any gridlock. Trump and Congress are working together, and things are getting done. And that is orgasmic. What do you think of that theory? (interruption) I think that theory… That\u2019s too dangerously close to true for my comfort.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

\"\"RUSH: From the Washington Post: “Trump\u2019s Deal with Democrats Bewilders His Biggest Fans: House Conservatives <\/a>— The House\u2019s conservative rabble-rousers…” (laughing) Conservative rabble-rousers! These would be the gentle people like Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan. These are not rabble-rousers. Well, maybe they are. Anyway, this is the Freedom Caucus that they\u2019re talking about here. And they are supposedly “bewildered” by Trump happily making this deal on the debt limit and the continuing resolution and all that with Chuck and Nancy.<\/p>\n

“For months, as Trump delivered daily frustrations to Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, House Republicans had little reason for doubt. But on Wednesday, Trump sent the hard right,” the hard right “a new message: Your enemy\u2019s enemy is not necessarily your friend. The president\u2019s quick embrace of a legislative strategy for a must-pass disaster relief bill proposed by Democrat leaders set the stage for a grand negotiation later this year that will hand the leverage to the minority and frustrate the majority\u2019s governing ambitions.”<\/p>\n

It says here, “If history is any guide, that likely includes any hopes conservatives had for ambitious spending cutbacks and a thorough recalibration of the federal government\u2019s size and scope.” Now, look, folks — and then there\u2019s this. Excuse me. What paper this is from? Also the Washington Post. “Trump Sides with Democrats on Fiscal Issues, Throwing Republican Plans into Chaos.” The Democrats haven\u2019t thrown Republican plans into chaos. The Republicans have done that! What Republican plans? Have any of you asked yourself that?<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve been asking myself: What is the reason we vote Republican? What do we do with these victories? I\u2019m serious. I\u2019ve asked the question before on this program. If this is what you get when you vote Republican, what\u2019s the point? The Republicans won the White House, the Republicans maintained control of the House and built on their margin, and they won the Senate — and they did it all on the backs of Donald Trump campaign. Where is the evidence of it? The Republican Party is in power in Washington, but they\u2019re not.<\/p>\n

And you know why they\u2019re not? Because they do use it. Where is the movement of the agenda? There isn\u2019t any. What is the point? You can\u2019t blame Trump, in a sense. Well, you could make the case that you could blame him. But look. If you look at this from his perspective, his party has been stymieing him. His parties have been roadblocking him. The Democrats have, too, but everybody knew they were gonna do that. The Democrats are the opposition and you expect the opposition to oppose you. But if I were Trump, I have to tell you, just in a human sense, I would be livid with these Republicans!<\/p>\n

\"\"They won the elections based on Trump\u2019s agenda, and they haven\u2019t done anything to implement it. It\u2019s almost as though they\u2019re afraid to. It\u2019s like they\u2019re afraid to use their power. With every succeeding election — the 2010 midterms and then everything but the presidency in 2012 and the 2014 midterms and then the election last year — the Republicans are winning and winning and the Democrats are losing and losing, and yet you don\u2019t see any evidence of it. You don\u2019t see Republican ideas being implemented.<\/p>\n

And you may not even see Democrat ideas being stymied. But the point is, the Republicans, if they have an agenda, are not advancing it. They\u2019re not trying to implement it. They\u2019re not trying to use the power that these elections have given them — that they have sought, by the way. It\u2019s an entirely different story with the Democrats. The Democrats are trying to advance their agenda whether they win or lose. Am I right or am I wrong when I tell you that it always it seems like the Democrats are on offense and the Republicans are on defense no matter who wins elections?<\/p>\n

Okay, so you\u2019re Trump. You maybe didn\u2019t expect to win the presidency. Maybe you believed all that big data, too, that Hillary was gonna win. Maybe you\u2019re as shocked as anybody else that you won. But you did, and what a feeling that must have been. What must it feel like to win an election for the presidency? That\u2019s got to be… I don\u2019t care what else you\u2019ve done in your life. I\u2019m not talking about from the public popularity standpoint of it, just winning an election. What it means. I mean, that\u2019s really rarefied air.<\/p>\n

And it cares with it awesome responsibilities and awesome perks. And it\u2019s got potential for the best in life. It\u2019s got potential for disaster. But it has got a to be a huge, huge deal. And then after you win the election you see your buddies in the Republican Party thanking you and praising you and giving you credit for all of this and promising to get with you, that there aren\u2019t any more excuses now. Reince Priebus said that on this program five days after the election: There aren\u2019t any more excuses for not moving the agenda forward.<\/p>\n

And then as you start moving the agenda, first thing you try the travel ban, you see what happens there. You don\u2019t get much support from your own party, and then you get moving on Obamacare repeal and replace. Maybe you should have done something else first, get move on it, but you don\u2019t see any support. You see your own party\u2019s got a bunch of different factions in the house that are opposing you, supporting you and maybe, you know…<\/p>\n

You, as Trump, you haven\u2019t yet fully informed yourself on the nuts and bolts of the bill and you\u2019re using power of the office and whatever, Art of the Deal, persuasion, tactics of the deal you\u2019ve got to get it done, but still you\u2019ve got opposition. But after that nothing getting done, no money for the wall, no eagerness for the wall, just a bunch of talk. And while all this is going on, the press is trying to destroy you, your administration, get you thrown out of office, if not thrown in jail.<\/p>\n

And this goes on for eight months. At some point if you\u2019re Trump and you\u2019re a doer, you want to start getting things done. Remember, he\u2019s not ideological. So, “Trump\u2019s Deal with Democrats Bewilders His Biggest Fans: House Conservatives”? Maybe. “Trump Pulls off Stone-Cold Stunner<\/a>.” This is a fascinating take here in TheHill.com. By Niall Stanage. You know, maybe he pronounces it “Neal.” You never know about Brits, how they spell that name. It could be “Nee-all,” could be “Nile.”<\/p>\n

\"\"“President Trump for once united Washington on Wednesday — in shock. Republicans and Democrats alike were left scratching their heads after the president did a deal with [Schumer and Pelosi] over the express wishes of the most senior members of his own party. Trump signed up to terms proposed by the Democrats on government funding, which would soon have run out, and the nation\u2019s debt ceiling, which would soon have been hit.<\/p>\n

“Crucially, another funding measure and another hike in the debt ceiling will be required before the end of the year. That\u2019s a big problem for [Ryan and McConnell] who wanted a longer-term deal, kicking the” can all the way to “November 2018,” which is true. They did. They wanted a debt ceiling bill and a hurricane funding bill in the continuing resolution to go all the way through November of next year. That would cover every aspect of the reelection, the campaign efforts of next year.<\/p>\n

hey just wanted to kick the can down the road and get it all done. Fine and dandy strategically. That wouldn\u2019t have accomplished anything. That wouldn\u2019t have moved anybody\u2019s agenda forward. Just another raising of the debt limit. I mean, the Republicans were gonna do this, too. But everybody thinks Republicans now have been dealt a dastardly blow by Trump because he now has given the Democrats all the leverage because we\u2019ve gotta go through this again right before Christmas!<\/p>\n

Right before Christmas, the media will once again be talking about the threat of a government shutdown if the debt limit isn\u2019t raised — and once again, Trump\u2019s gonna have to make a deal with the Democrats (who are not in power in Washington). This is the analysis. Now, this piece at The Hill basically says that Trump did this because he doesn\u2019t know what he\u2019s doing, that Trump is in over his head.<\/p>\n

“Why did Trump do it?” writes Mr. Niall Stanage or Stanage, heck, I don\u2019t know how to pronounce this. “Why did Trump do it? People in his orbit say that the president was demonstrating to GOP leaders that they do not have the whip hand — and that, if they repeatedly fail to move his agenda, the commander in chief is willing to look elsewhere.” Yeah. I mentioned that as a possibility yesterday. And Trump\u2019s anger at the Republican leadership is certainly understandable, but if Trump thinks that he\u2019s gonna get anything but poison pills from the Democrats, he is once again sadly mistaken.<\/p>\n

\"\"So this guy is saying if Trump thinks he\u2019s made some new friends here with Chuck and Nancy, ha-ha-ha, he\u2019s got another thing coming, \u2019cause they hate Trump and they think Trump\u2019s a buffoon and they don\u2019t think Trump even knows what he\u2019s doing. So even though Trump united Washington, even though Trump made it appear that Washington is working, he still doesn\u2019t get any credit. This is something that Trump had better take note of.<\/p>\n

Even if he makes deals with the Democrats, and even if those deals advance the Democrat agenda, Trump is not gonna get the love of the media. They\u2019re not gonna turn around on a dime and report that Trump is growing. They are way too invested in Trump is a boob, Trump is a pig, Trump is unqualified, Trump is unfit. They cannot come off of that.<\/p>\n

No matter what Trump does, anything that results in the Democrat agenda being advanced because the Democrats work with Trump is going to be laid at the feet of Schumer and Pelosi. They are going to get the credit. And I\u2019m gonna cringe reading it, but I can tell you what it\u2019s gonna be: Donald Trump, neophyte, outsider, unskilled and unknowing of the ways of Washington, is repeatedly being schooled and used by the Democrat seasoned veterans of the Beltway who understand exactly how it works.<\/p>\n

No matter what, Trump isn\u2019t gonna get any credit. He\u2019s not gonna get any love. That\u2019s not how it\u2019s gonna work. Ask the Republicans. They\u2019ve been looking for the love for 30 years. They\u2019ve been joining Democrats on such things as amnesty. Any number of things. John McCain turned the media into his base. They\u2019ve been looking for love in all the wrong places for 30 years. They\u2019re never gonna get the love of the Drive-Bys either. And so this has happened, and I can understand Trump\u2019s frustration with the Republicans. I can understand Trump, man of action, wants to get things done, at least get something moving.<\/p>\n

I can also understand that Trump wants to throw the fear and the wrath into the Republicans and say, “Look, if you guys don\u2019t shape up and join me, this is gonna keep happening, \u2019cause I\u2019m not gonna sit here and be stymied every time we come up with something by you people. I\u2019m just not gonna let it happen.” And they better listen to that, because when — and it\u2019s true, hate to keep repeating myself — Trump\u2019s not ideological. He doesn\u2019t see himself doing deals with the left.<\/p>\n

The great thing about Trump is — I should put it, the one thing about Trump is, if we just back off and let him go, his natural tendencies happen to take him to areas the left doesn\u2019t like. Everybody thinks he\u2019s a New York Democrat, and he may have been, but he\u2019s not a New York liberal. A New York liberal wouldn\u2019t have done any of the things Trump has done so far, other than this deal yesterday.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: El Rushbo, a man, a legend, a way of life. Jason in Dayton, Ohio. We start with you first. I\u2019m glad you called, sir. How are you doing, and what\u2019s up?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Good. How are you doing, Rush?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Pretty good, sir. Pretty good. Thank you.<\/p>\n