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RUSH: We got all these minimum wage stories out there. The minimum wage is going to go up. It\u2019s a done deal. It\u2019s going to happen. It\u2019s as done a deal as anything can be done without having been done yet, but there are these constant assaults on capitalism and the unfairness of it all with these statistics that 1% score 16% of all wealth in America. Of course, they never tell you what percentage of the taxes that 1% are paying. We do at RushLimbaugh.com, but the liberals would tell you, “If we could get that down to 1% and 10%, that would be fair, any kind of reduction.” Well, the 1% gets 16% of all is an incorrect calculation because the wrong total income is used. Social Security is income for a lot of people, and it costs a lot.It\u2019s billions and trillions, and it\u2019s not counted. Other transfer payments — you name it, AFDC, food stamps, all those benefits — they are not calculated for this purpose, and it\u2019s on purpose, as income, tax-free income. “Tax-free income? I never heard of that. How do I get in on this?” Municipal bonds. There are people that are clipping the coupons out there left and right, they bought these tax-free Munies. They have income every year. It\u2019s not counted. They use what\u2019s called earned income here — and, of course, there\u2019s income that is income fudging income, the cash economy. There are people cheating. There are people not reporting all the income they make. Then there\u2019s the underground economy, which is also cash.<\/p>\n

Now, according to The Wall Street Journal, all of this uncalculated income increases total income by almost 35%, and what does that do? Well, think of dividing one by six and then one by ten. One into six is 16%, one into ten is 10%. That 35% additional income not being calculated destroys this whole notion that 1% are scoring 16% of all wealth. So why do we hear the dishonest 1% score 16% of all wealth? For the same reason that we hear that poverty hasn\u2019t been solved. Remember that one? Poverty has not been reduced in a land of plenty. There are those with nothing, and we\u2019ve got all these stories today talking about how they\u2019re just one paycheck away from utter financial ruin. But as your truth detector, I and too few others point out that today\u2019s poor have a standard of living that equals that of the middle class in the 1960s.<\/p>\n

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Data covers the calendar year 2003, not the fiscal year 2003 – and includes all income, not just wages, excluding Social Security<\/p>\n

That\u2019s in David Brooks\u2019 column in the New York Times today. Now, stop and think of that. Today\u2019s poverty level, people below the poverty level are living the same lives that the middle class in the 1960s lived, and yet how many of you think things are going to hell in a handbasket? How many of you think the economy\u2019s in the dregs, some people are doing well but you\u2019re not and so forth. It\u2019s absurd, but I don\u2019t blame you because you\u2019re bombarded every day of your life countless times with nothing but crisis-oriented drive-by news reports designed to make you feel panicked and insecure, and this is why you need to develop some boundaries and let that stuff bounce off of you. The problem is you cannot deal with real problems with fake statistics or fake politicians. So just as this whole 1% score 16% of all wealth business is a ruse, so is the whole minimum wage thing in terms of what its purpose is. Here\u2019s Rich in Waterloo, Iowa. Hi, Rich. I\u2019m glad you called.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, thanks for taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yes, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — a bundle of contradictions, so just take a puff on your cigar before you knock me out of the park. Just give me a chance here.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, hang on here. Wait, wait, wait just a second. I gotta light the cigar. Hold your thought here just a second. Hang on just a sec. That\u2019s the sound of the blazer torch lighting up the Double Ligero Chisel from La Fleur Dominicana. All right, go.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay, I am a conservative probably on almost every issue. One of them I\u2019m not, though, is the minimum wage thing. And you cited two arguments, you know, before your break, using all this complicated economic stuff that only an economist could refute you on, you know, just me, average guy sitting out here, I can\u2019t refute you on what you\u2019re saying, maybe it\u2019s right, maybe it\u2019s not. So I\u2019ll take two simple points. You said that raising the minimum wage is going to cost jobs, and you said it\u2019s basically a negotiating tool for the unions. The first thing on the jobs thing. We almost have full employment in this country and supposedly the only jobs we got left over are jobs for illegal immigrants. So if we lose a few jobs, we\u2019re only —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, what do they earn?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Huh?<\/p>\n

RUSH: What do they earn?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Who?<\/p>\n

RUSH: The illegal immigrants.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I don\u2019t know, but I would imagine it\u2019s minimum wage or less if they\u2019re just working in the fields.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You be wrong.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay, well, I\u2019ll —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Some of them making 20, 25 bucks an hour.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay, I\u2019ll take your word at that. But if we lose jobs, it\u2019s probably going to be jobs like their jobs that are going to be lost. So, you know, that\u2019s not that big of a deal.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, here\u2019s the point. The minimum wage. I want you to try to understand it. I mean, you can disagree because this is America and you have your right to be wrong, but the minimum wage exists in, at best, as entry-level pay. The minimum wage goes to inexperienced young people, some who do not have much education, and it is not designed to support a family of four or what have you. Now, the reason that we say it costs jobs is that most companies do not have a stash of unused money laying around, especially small businesses. So they budget their costs, and most companies\u2019 #1 expense is labor, and you should look at this no different than how you pay your utility bill.<\/p>\n

You don\u2019t associate any compassion with your utility bill, but you do associate compassion with an employer paying an employee something. So these people have their number one expense as labor, and they budget every year according to it. Now, all of a sudden next year or whenever, they\u2019re going to be told that every one of their employees has to make X more. As the restaurant guy in Cincinnati points out, it\u2019s going to cost him 130 to $150,000 a year to handle the minimum wage increases. That money is just not sitting somewhere unspent and unused. He\u2019s either going to reduce his payroll and fire some people or he\u2019s going to raise his prices on his menu or he\u2019s going to do both, a combination of the both.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, what about cutting costs? You left that one out, and that seems to be —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, the #1 cost is labor.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — other costs, too, that they can deal with.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Companies do not exist to create jobs for people. That is not the purpose of a company. A guy does not invest a million dollars starting a business to have jobs in his community. That\u2019s not the purpose.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay. Well, that\u2019s fine. You\u2019re still neglecting the fact that, you know, businesses have more ways to cut costs than the two you mentioned.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Have you ever run a business?<\/p>\n

CALLER: No.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You don\u2019t know what you\u2019re talking about then. I say that not insultingly, but if you haven\u2019t run one, you can\u2019t sit around and say they have infinite numbers of ways. You have been poisoned with class envy, even as a conservative —<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, no —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Everybody hates the boss. Everybody hates business.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Everybody thinks business is cheating everybody.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Bite the cigar for a second. Okay, now, I work for a Fortune 500 company, and they have never laid off anyone ever in their history, and they pride themselves on that, and I\u2019ll tell you what, ever since 9\/11 they\u2019ve panicked and they went into this cost-cutting mode and they\u2019re not getting rid of anybody, and yet if I were to tell you who they were and you look at their numbers, they make money every year, they make more money per year.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Look it, is everybody at this Fortune 500 company — and Fortune 500 companies are different than small businesses and 75% of employment in this country is with small business. Is everybody at this Fortune 500 company getting the same raise they always got?<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s hard to say. We get raises, but it\u2019s probably not as much as it used to.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, okay, they\u2019re cutting costs and they\u2019re doing it with labor. They haven\u2019t fired anybody but you\u2019re not getting raises. You\u2019re not getting raises as much as you used to. I bet they don\u2019t have a whole lot of minimum wage people at the Fortune 500 company.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, that\u2019s one thing. It\u2019s all good wages. Everybody makes a decent wage. Well, let me —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I\u2019m happy for you. I\u2019m happy for you, but what\u2019s the other thing about unions you wanted to dispute with me?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, here\u2019s just a different way to look at this. Like I said, I\u2019m just an average guy in Iowa, you know, trying to scrape by making a living, and I make a decent living.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You\u2019re “scraping by” working at a Fortune 500 company? You just got through saying it pays decent wages and now you\u2019re just “scraping by.”<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, so I\u2019m just agreeing with, you know, all the complainers that you so-called cite and say, you know, they can barely make it on what they\u2019re making. I\u2019m just an average guy. I\u2019m barely making it. But here\u2019s my point about unions.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Would you mind telling me — do not misunderstand me as being argumentative or confrontational, many people do that, end up being intimidated, and I\u2019m a harmless, lovable little fuzzball. Would you mind giving me an approximation of what you earn?<\/p>\n<\/section>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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