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RUSH: Richard, Sanibel, Florida, you\u2019re next. Welcome to the program.<\/line>CALLER: Yeah. Mega dittos. How you doing?<\/line>RUSH: Fine, sir. Thanks very much.<\/line>CALLER: Rush, what I called about, and this ties in to what I called about, this “mission accomplished” sign on the carrier, why doesn\u2019t anybody in politics, Bush or Cheney or somebody, ever point out the fact that, first, it wasn\u2019t Bush\u2019s sign, it was the aircraft carrier\u2019s sign. He didn\u2019t put it there, and second, the mission was accomplished. The mission that that aircraft carrier was on was in fact accomplished, and that\u2019s why they were back in port.<\/line>RUSH: Well, I myself have pointed this out. There are two phases to this. The invasion of Iran, the deposing of Saddam was successful, and it took place in less than two weeks.<\/line>CALLER: Yes.<\/line> RUSH: The mission was accomplished. What we\u2019re doing now is building the peace. What we\u2019re doing now is allowing the Iraqis to put themselves back together, and we\u2019re supervising it, and it\u2019s an ongoing mission. But the fact that there are people that want to portray both as failures is part and parcel of what Shelby Steele is talking about here. I don\u2019t care whose sign it was. I don\u2019t know why Bush doesn\u2019t come out and defend himself on this sort of thing. I couldn\u2019t begin to tell you.<\/line>CALLER: Well, what is happening in this country? I talked to you once before. It was shortly before the 2004 election, and my point then is really the same as it is now, and that is, the left carries the day in dialogue and conversation. I get depressed. Well, not really, but down when I go to a cocktail party, almost everybody is a Republican, and they\u2019re all mouthing things that sound like they came out of the New York Times, like we don\u2019t want to be perceived as the “evil empire” ourselves, and “I hope Israel doesn\u2019t fly off the handle,” and —<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s Shelby Steele\u2019s point. Now you\u2019re able to recognize it and see it for what it is, and people will see it in themselves. Look, this is all good. We continue to make progress in understanding certain things and why we\u2019ve drifted in certain directions in this country. Shelby Steele identifies this stuff. It\u2019s not a reason to get depressed. It\u2019s a reason to, you know, be joyful. We have ways of understanding and explaining it to people. What you\u2019ve just described among your Republican buddies is precisely the stigma that Shelby Steele says exists over the sin of white supremacy or superiority — and he doesn\u2019t mean this in a racial sense. He is black but he\u2019s not being critical of it. <\/line>He\u2019s simply saying it\u2019s caused a massive transformation because the white supremacy or superiority was brought about and existed on a flawed moral foundation, and the flawed moral foundation in our case was slavery and racial discrimination. Regardless of the steps we\u2019ve taken to fix it and the progress we\u2019ve made, there are those who don\u2019t ever want to forget it and will continually bring it up. They are forever convinced that we are forever sinned and in this case there ain\u2019t no savior, there ain\u2019t no savior to absolve us. They don\u2019t want our sins absolved, because they are self-loathing themselves. <\/line>They have an animus toward the country over the inequities, the inequalities, the prosperity, our superpower size. So when you hear your Republican buddy say, “I hope Israel reins it in,” the explanation for this is so simple, and it wouldn\u2019t work, none of this stigmatization would work, were it not for one thing, and that is everybody is so obsessed with what everybody else is going to think of them. In the meantime, while you\u2019re worried about what everybody else is going to think about you, they\u2019re worried about what you think about them because everybody is like you. Everybody is like we all are. We\u2019re all worried about what people think. <\/line>Well, I\u2019m not anymore, and professionally, career-wise, I never have been. It\u2019s just a natural human thing, folks. We\u2019re all egocentric to one degree or another, and I\u2019ll tell you a short little story. I don\u2019t want to mention any names. At one point in my life I met this woman, and it was a good friendship and she was available and I was available, and I was not interested, because I was on the cusp of great things, and I had other things on my mind. I didn\u2019t want to cut myself off from half the population in this country in terms of opportunity, female-wise. So nothing ever happened, and it was years later she asked me, “By the way, why? Why didn\u2019t we ever amount to anything?”<\/line>I told her what I just told you. She said, “Thank God. I thought it was because you thought something about me you didn\u2019t like,” and that\u2019s all I mean. Everybody is always assuming that there\u2019s something about them that people are reacting to, when in truth, everybody you\u2019re dealing with is worried about what you think of them. But the point of it all is, is that when you go through life obsessed with what people are going to think of you because of what you say or what you do, you are naturally restricting what you would otherwise normally, naturally want to say or want to do. So in the case of Shelby Steele here, we allow the stigma.<\/line><\/p>\n

Even your Republican buddies, Richard, allow the stigma of what some people are going to think, people you don\u2019t even know in this case. “I hope Israel doesn\u2019t go nuts. What will everybody think of us?” You have to forget that, and you have to focus on what\u2019s best for you. All of us have to do that, and you start letting what people are going to think of it stop you from doing what you think is best or what you want to do or whatever pursuit of happiness you\u2019re engaged in, you\u2019re giving them a whole lot of control over your life that they don\u2019t deserve and they\u2019re probably not even trying to exert anyway. You just think they are. So the stigma is allowed to survive. “I don\u2019t want anybody to think I\u2019m racist. I don\u2019t want anybody to think I\u2019m heartless or I don\u2019t care.” So we don\u2019t fight the Iraq war to really win it. We\u2019re going to win it, but we fight it in a minimalist way so people don\u2019t get mad at us for how we won it, because, “They\u2019re a Third World country and they\u2019re so poor and we gotta give them a chance.” It\u2019s like in the Little League spotting the better team 12 runs before you start just to feel good about it. <\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line>RUSH: Marcus in Portland, Oregon, Marcus, great that you waited. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.<\/line>CALLER: Thanks for taking my call, Rush.<\/line>RUSH: Yes, sir.<\/line> CALLER: I wanted to get back to the point in the Shelby Steele article, but in a different way. I was reading about all of the accounts of the protest yesterday, and I was really just struck by the well-meaning people that really want to help these people that are disadvantaged, but that there\u2019s an unintended consequence of basically not encouraging these people to follow a general path that this country has been on for quite a long time that has created this wealth. I\u2019m really concerned that these people that have great intentions but don\u2019t quite understand that they\u2019re really doing a disservice to a lot of these immigrants that want to come here by not encouraging them to follow the rules, or to not encourage people to —<\/line>RUSH: That\u2019s because these people think the rules are “unfair,” and so the rules have to be modified, changed, gotten rid of, or else slinked around. The rules are unfair. If you have a modicum of guilt… I\u2019ll tell you a story. I\u2019ve told this story before but it\u2019s been a long time, but I\u2019ll tell you this story because it fits to a T today. I\u2019m out in California. I\u2019m playing golf with some friends. We\u2019re going to have dinner Saturday night in my friend\u2019s club, and that\u2019s fine and dandy. When I get out there, a friend picks me up at the airport, says, “By the way, so-and-so is going to join us for dinner. He\u2019s a well-known national TV personality. He\u2019s going to join us because he\u2019s a guest here of another member, and he asked if he could join us for dinner.” I said, “Okay, no problem.” So this guy shows up, national TV star, and we sit down to dinner and the host starts provoking me and trying to get me. You know, all these libs think that I\u2019m going to show up and start biting their heads off and telling them what a bunch of louts they are and so forth, and so they start taunting me in a way to get me to behave as a circus act and behave as they think I am.<\/line><\/p>\n

I just sit there. I\u2019m just here to have dinner and play golf. I don\u2019t really care to sit here and talk politics with a bunch of airheads. When I leave the office, I leave the office. I didn\u2019t go out there to talk politics with a bunch of Nimrods. So I didn\u2019t rise to the bait. At some point they brought up immigration, and my host is loaded for bear on immigration. Once the subject comes up that\u2019s all that\u2019s going to be discussed the rest of the night and he\u2019s going to do 90% of the talking. So in the process of him sharing his opinions and how illegal immigration is destroying California, is not going to be around as we know it much longer and it\u2019s terrible and all that, the nationally known TV host starts popping up with his own opinions and ignoring all of the facts and the sources for the facts that my friend has postulated. <\/line>This frustrates my friend, because he\u2019s not just offering opinion. He\u2019s backing it up with facts from stories in the LA Times about the number of emergency rooms that have shut down because the people going there don\u2019t pay, and about all the advertising on television, how to get around having to pay an emergency room, how to get around, having to pay for an ambulance. “Don\u2019t call an ambulance, call a cab if you need to go to the emergency room,” blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or, “Call an ambulance, don\u2019t call a cab,” whatever, however it works. <\/line>Of course it\u2019s going over the head of the nationally known television star because facts were irrelevant. All that mattered to him was his feelings about this, which continued to frustrate my host. The host, after not too long a period of time, started making pointed comments and questions to the nationally known TV star, and the nationally known TV star\u2019s answers were just breathtakingly vapid. Breathtakingly. Everything he thought he knew came from the New York Times, and that was it. His only source. The host continues to get exacerbated and said, “Well, let me ask you something. If one of these illegals decided to climb the fence, come into your backyard, and date your daughter, would you care?” No. Wouldn\u2019t bother me a bit. And he ended up saying, last thing, this ended the evening because the host couldn\u2019t handle it anymore. The nationally known TV star said, “I just want you to understand where I\u2019m coming from. If there are poor brown and black people in the world who want to come to my country to improve their lives, I am not going to stand in their way,” and the host, exasperated, almost starts spewing sputum, he\u2019s so angry. <\/line>“I can\u2019t relate to this. Do you think that\u2019s all this is? This is not even immigration. We\u2019re not even talking about immigration to you, nationally known TV star.” So we\u2019re driving home, and the host is still upset because this topic is… I mean, it owns him. We\u2019re driving home, and the host still just can\u2019t believe what\u2019s happened here, because he was armed with <\/a>facts that should have persuaded anybody that there\u2019s a problem, and I said, “Host, you have to understand that the nationally known TV star had one objective tonight, and that was to make sure nobody at the table thought he was heartless, cold-hearted, cruel, had no compassion. You\u2019re not going to get him to say that poor people of color from around the world should not be allowed to come here. He can\u2019t. He is so absorbed with what you think and what he thinks of himself,” and the host slammed the steering wheel.<\/line><\/p>\n

“By God, that\u2019s right,” and it is. It is. So, Marcus, you talk about these people that are trying to help and end up not serving their cause because they\u2019re not doing the best thing for these people who are actually coming here illegally, play by the rules, come here and become an American like immigrants in the past have always done. We are a melting pot, but these people are not part of the melting pot; these people are just coming here for work. At one point they\u2019re just three feet away from us. You know, they\u2019re not getting on a ship, sailing from the far corners of the globe. They\u2019re coming here for work, but they don\u2019t care to assimilate and acculturate; they\u2019re demanding to continue to be exempt. <\/line> They want to remain illegals. They don\u2019t want to go through the process. If they can be automatically declared legal they\u2019ll take it, but they don\u2019t want to have to go through the process. So you have these people encouraging them and it\u2019s the same thing as the nationally known TV star. “Well, you know, we have it so lucky and so good and so fortunate we are in this country and these people are so downtrodden and they don\u2019t even have high school educations. We must help them.” This is the stigma that Shelby Steele is talking about. This is the original sin here. We just get so caught up in the stigma and what people are going to think — and what we think of ourselves in a phony way — that we stand in the way of doing the right thing. <\/line>Not just the right thing in terms of law and order, but the right thing morally, the right thing in terms of character. We will allow this stigma to be a huge obstacle that gets in our way to stop us from doing that because somehow we make ourselves feel better in trying to help. “Ah, we have great intentions,” or we\u2019re afraid what somebody else is going to say about us or what have you, and it\u2019s a paralyzing thing, and as such in the immigration debate, it\u2019s reached Washington, and there\u2019s a minimalist way of dealing with this. They\u2019re not about to go about solving the problem because they can\u2019t even say what the real problem is. If the problem-solvers (and I say that laughingly) in Washington cannot even honestly address what the problem is, how in the hell can they solve it? You can\u2019t. If you don\u2019t honestly identify the problem, you can\u2019t. <\/line>So we come up every 20 years with a piece of legislation that acknowledges the legitimacy of what is illegitimate. We tell ourselves we\u2019re good people. We fabricate reasons why we need this to happen and so forth, all the while abandoning the right thing to do because of an overwhelming sense of guilt at our prosperity, or the use and wielding of our power that we have. We\u2019re sort of paralyzed and hamstrung a lot of times in doing the right things <\/a>where minorities are concerned, people of different color or of lower socioeconomic circumstances. It\u2019s why the left has always been more interested in understanding why violent criminals do what they do rather than protecting people from them, and in fact, much of the left wants to blame socioeconomic circumstances for the evil acts of others, and by so doing, absolve them of their actions and transfer the blame because of their collective guilt over the circumstances that exist in the country. Again, the foundation or basis for my comments here is found in Shelby Steele\u2019s piece today at OpinionJournal.com. I cannot recommend this strongly enough.<\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: Let\u2019s look at the other side of this. Let\u2019s take the war in Iraq, as an example. Again, playing off Shelby Steele<\/a> here. He says the guilt, the white guilt that we face and that we deal with in this country causes us to hold back on the full use of our power, the full projection of our power, that we\u2019re fighting a minimalist war because we\u2019re so concerned of what the Europeans are going to think. In fact, he even makes the point that if we lose this war the Europeans will like us better because we will have practiced the proper restraint against an enemy that can\u2019t really compete with us. “It\u2019s just a bunch of insurgent terrorists, after all, and they can\u2019t compete with us. It\u2019s really not fair. It\u2019s a Third World country and these people are just misguided but they\u2019re trying and so we have to back off.” <\/line> The terrorists, on the other hand, I don\u2019t think conscience or guilt exists in them. They can behead; they can blow up mosques. They can murder 3,000 innocent people at one time, or they can murder one or five or 20 at one time. They can do it on videotape for all the world to see. They can kidnap an Italian journalist. We end up being blamed for the way she\u2019s rescued! They on the other hand can slice off an American\u2019s head, and the father of that American will get mad at the United States, not mad at the terrorists. No, they\u2019re given a pass. For some reason they are not held to the same standard. No, of course, not! They\u2019re uncivilized, backwards, fourteenth century people. <\/line>They don\u2019t have any guilt. They\u2019re not dealing with any guilt. They\u2019re not fighting minimalist wars. They\u2019re doing it best they can with what they\u2019ve got, and if they got hold of a nuke, they\u2019d use it, and they wouldn\u2019t think a thing about it. And there are probably people in this country who, “Yeah, we deserve it.” Like the state department after 9\/11 conducted a very public seminar, “Why do they hate us so?” after 9\/11. So the terrorists can run around and they can behead. They can slice; they can dice. They can put people on TV. In fact, do whatever they want, blow up innocent people in cars, and nobody condemns it. <\/line> Not nobody, but I mean the people condemning. Abu Ghraib, Club Gitmo, you think that our prisoners aren\u2019t going through literal hell before they get their heads cut off? But what do Democrats and leftists in this country focus on? They focus on our so-called inhumane treatment. They force on us this stigma, this guilt, that we don\u2019t deserve to win. We\u2019ve got to let these people out of our prisons. This is unfair. We want to grant them constitutional rights! We want to have this get taxpayer funded lawyers so they can try their cases all the way up to the US Supreme Court, in the middle of wartime, and it\u2019s more than just the fact that the left is anti-war and so forth. You\u2019ve got a lot of factors that go into all this, but the enemy is not held to the same standard. We\u2019ve gotta make sure that we grant them official status under the Geneva conventions, when they do not deserve it. <\/line>They don\u2019t qualify. But that doesn\u2019t matter. So the terrorists can do whatever they want. They are not burdened by shame. They are not burdened by guilt. They are not burdened by conscience. Yet we allow ourselves to be restricted and restrained by all of those things, and it\u2019s so bad that a majority of people in this country cannot even bring themselves to condemn the tactics used by our enemy in this case, and in fact have actually made it difficult for us to achieve victory. There is an ongoing effort to sabotage victory over this enemy from the standpoint of not using military tribunals, to trying to shut down this NSA program to identify when the next 9\/11 might happen and blame us for “spying.” This is a very, very, very pernicious thing, and it causes us to say and think the most horrible thoughts about ourselves while excusing behavior and tactics that are pure barbaric and almost animalistic, while we\u2019re in the process of making sure not too many of them die, just enough so that we can claim victory. If they could wipe us all out, they would do it.<\/line><\/p>\n

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