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RUSH: New York Times today is reporting: No Final Report Seen in Inquiry on C.I.A. Leak. Now, listen to this. “The special counsel in the C.I.A. leak case has told associates he has no plans to issue a final report about the results of the investigation, heightening the expectation that he intends to bring indictments, lawyers in the case and law enforcement officials said yesterday. The prosecutor, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, is not expected to take any action in the case this week…” Really? Let\u2019s see, now. Last week, 22 indictments were coming. Then yesterday, indictments were coming today. Chris Matthews has Dick Cheney resigned and in jail. Chris Matthews has this whole thing being about the lies that took us into the Iraq war. He\u2019s lost control of it. We\u2019ve got the audio sound bites. They\u2019re coming up here. The dirty little secret is that the special prosecutor cannot illegally issue a report unless he goes back to the court and gets permission to do so. It\u2019s not SOP. It\u2019s not standard operating procedure. The idea that, “Hey, he\u2019s not going to issue a report! Why, that may mean indictments!” It doesn\u2019t mean anything of the sort. All of this… I mean, folks, have you… Pardon my French here, but the Democrats on the left have gone from orgasms to premature ejaculation is what\u2019s happened here. I mean, there\u2019s no other way to describe this, and the woman is going to be very unhappy when this is all over. Premature ejaculation is not good, and they\u2019re engaging in it and they just cannot help themselves. It\u2019s breathtaking to watch this. <\/line>“A final report had long been considered an option for Mr. Fitzgerald if he decided not to accuse anyone of wrongdoing, although Justice Department officials have been dubious about his legal authority to issue such a report.” There\u2019s no dubiousness about it. He can\u2019t, without special permission. What a sentence: “A final report had long been considered an option,” blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, “although justice department officials have been dubious about his legal authority to issue such a report.” Well, why write the sentence? It can\u2019t be an option without special permission. “By signaling that he had no plans to issue the grand jury\u2019s findings in such detail,” because he can\u2019t, “Mr. Fitzgerald appeared to narrow his options, either to indictments or closing his investigation with no public discourse of findings of choice that would set off a political firestorm.” Why would it set off a political firestorm, and with whom would it set off a political firestorm? It would not set off a political firestorm with the American people at large. It would set off a political firestorm with the mainstream press, predominantly Chris Matthews. It would set off a firestorm with these left-wing extremists on the Internet on the Democrat side, because they\u2019ve raised expectations. They\u2019ve already got this case solved. Rove indicted. Rove in jail. Cheney indicted. Cheney resigned. Bush is brainless running the White House. Bush is probably resigning because he\u2019ll have to admit to the country he has no brain and therefore his two brains are gone, and so he\u2019s going to give up running the country rather than run it into the ground any further. This is the dream that they\u2019re having out there. You want to hear some sound bites? Let\u2019s go to the sound bites. Let\u2019s go to MSNBC Live. The host, Amy Roback, was talking to him and said, “What\u2019s your feeling on how high these indictments might actually reach?”<\/line>MATTHEWS: If there are indictments they\u2019re going to be probably in the vice president\u2019s office, they\u2019re probably going to come next week, and they are going to blow this White House apart. It\u2019s going to be unbelievable. I think the people watching right now who are voters better start paying attention to this issue. It\u2019s not just about whether somebody\u2019s name was leaked. It\u2019s about whether we went to war under false pretenses or not, whether the people knew about that or not and what they did when they were charged with that kind of offense against the United States. I mean, it\u2019s serious business.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: Where in the world is he getting this? This is nothing but wishful thinking. I mean, Fitzgerald is investigating the legality of the war? He goes from there? You know, here\u2019s a legal question for you. This grand jury was impaneled to investigate this so-called leak of the identity of a so-called covert, so-called CIA, so-called agent. Can this grand jury then sit on a fishing expedition that\u2019s going to entail all of these other things that nobody even knows is happening, such as the legality of the war? So Roback then responded, “Does this affect President Bush\u2019s effectiveness if these indictments do come down, the vice president\u2019s office is implicated, criminally implicated?”<\/line>MATTHEWS: It\u2019s not just about a leak case. There\u2019s lots of leaks in this town. It\u2019s not even about a set of felonies. It\u2019s about the relationship between the president of the United States and the vice president of the United States which has been probably the strongest political relationship we\u2019ve ever seen in this town. They are so connected at the hip, and if this dislodges that connection, that\u2019s going to be big news because now Bill — George W. Bush will be running this country completely on his own the next couple months. It\u2019s going to be very interesting.<\/line>RUSH: (Laughing.) What is there to say? What is there? Well, I mean it\u2019s not just about a leak case, lots of leaks in this town, not even about a set of felonies? It\u2019s about the relationship between the president of the United States and the vice president? How does he know this? Nobody else knows this — and they\u2019re “connected at the hip”? If this dislodges that connection it\u2019s going to be big news because now George Bush will be running the country completely on his own the next couple of months? Every clich? that the left believes about George W. Bush is here. He\u2019s not his own man, doesn\u2019t have his own brain, he\u2019s not running the country, Cheney and Rove are. Here from last Sunday on This Week with George Stephanopoulos Joseph DeGeneva and Richard Ben-Veniste. Steffie says, “If Fitzgerald decides not to bring indictments, should he issue a report?”<\/line>VENISTE: I don\u2019t think so.<\/line>DEGENEVA: He\u2019s not legally entitled to do so. He cannot issue a public report.<\/line>VENISTE: Well, if the court says he can —<\/line>STEFFIE: Well, he\u2019ll have to get a very special court order which is really granted.<\/line>VENISTE: I agree, it\u2019s not appropriate.<\/line>RUSH: Okay. So last Sunday here are these two legal whizzes, Ben-Veniste and DeGeneva– This New York Times story here is no different than the story they ran the week before the election a year ago claiming all these bombs had been lost in Iraq, which was old news. Now they\u2019re trying to make hay out of absolutely nothing, with Chris Matthews having the vice president indicted thrown in jail or resigned or whatever and Bush having to run the country on his own for two months. (Sigh) You can\u2019t write this stuff.<\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line>RUSH: Let me try to explain to those of you who may be for some reason questioning me or doubting me why it is that such a report by the independent counsel is so unlikely. A report would require the release of grand jury information to some extent, and this entire investigation has been conducted through the grand jury. What happens in there is of course off the record, it\u2019s private. So that\u2019s why you gotta go back to the court and get a special court order — and it\u2019s very rarely granted for that reason — is to protect the integrity of what goes on in the grand jury. A grand jury does not allow for due process. That is, it doesn\u2019t allow for legal representation of those who testify. So if you\u2019re ever called before a grand jury, you\u2019re in there on your own, you\u2019ve got all the prosecutors in there, you\u2019ve got the grand jurors, and you. Your lawyer is not allowed in there, no question can be objected to, it\u2019s not due process. It doesn\u2019t allow for the usual rules of evidence. It does not allow for a potential subject to defend himself, that is to put on a defense, including cross-examination or calling witnesses. You\u2019re just a sitting duck in there, and so the reason these reports don\u2019t go out is because it\u2019s not a legal proceeding in the sense that there\u2019s due process that\u2019s taken place. So what happens in there has to be kept private and off the record. Now, as for Matthews, most of the writing in the news media today and in past weeks, they\u2019re trading in rumor and innuendo and hopes and dreams, and nothing more. <\/line>I want to assure you I don\u2019t know anything coming out of there, but they don\u2019t, either. They haven\u2019t the slightest idea what\u2019s going on. They think they do, because they think — just like everybody else does — that when a prosecutor calls you in, you are guilty. When a prosecutor calls you in four times, you are guilty. When a prosecutor calls you in and makes you sit there for four hours, you are guilty. It\u2019s just the natural bias that exists in our system. Well, why would prosecutors care about going after people that are not guilty? So it\u2019s just the natural bias that everybody assumes, not just in this case, but any case. Any time you hear that somebody\u2019s been charged with something, slam-dunk, over with, and even though it\u2019s up to the prosecution to prove their case, everybody still gets it in their head that it\u2019s up to whoever\u2019s been charged to defend themselves. They\u2019ve got to prove they didn\u2019t do it. That\u2019s just the human nature of our system. Now, you combine that with the hopes and dreams and wishful thinking of these people in the press who have been salivating at every opportunity to try to nail Bush, nail Rove, nail Cheney, because these people have beaten them at the ballot box, and they can\u2019t figure out how to beat them at the ballot box and the only way to beat them is to get rid of them and to use the legal system, and this is the left\u2019s modus operandi. Use the legal system to establish their political cases, to establish their political policies, and to get rid of their political enemies, and that\u2019s how they use it. Hello, Mr. Ronnie Earle. <\/line><\/p>\n

I could give you a list of other prosecutors who are motivated the same way, and have been. It\u2019s laughable, but it\u2019s also getting to the point now where it\u2019s starting to really make me mad. This is going way beyond — and I know all these shows on cable are opinion shows and so forth, but it\u2019s not even responsible. There\u2019s no attempt here to even be responsible about this. For example, they\u2019re asking, “How can a prosecutor investigate something like this and not indict anybody?” You see, that proves the point about what I believe to be the ongoing human nature bias we have about this. A grand jury investigation is just that, it\u2019s an investigation. Just because there\u2019s an investigation doesn\u2019t mean there are going to be charges. It\u2019s not automatic that there\u2019s going to be an indictment. Just because there\u2019s an investigation does not mean that there has even been a crime committed, but you cannot convince people on the left of this. It\u2019s the exact opposite, because there\u2019s a grand jury, there has been a crime committed, and we know what the crime is: Bush lied! Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction, and Cheney lied and we\u2019re going to get \u2019em and that\u2019s what Fitzgerald is in there to do, and I\u2019m telling you my hope — and we all have them. My hope is that whatever comes out of this is so unexpected to these people that they cannot find a way to flimflam their way out of it, and explain it. I mean, I hope that whatever comes out of this, that night on the cable TV shows, the sum total of communication from all these people sounds like this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I hope they\u2019re tongue-tied. I know what\u2019s going to happen if that happens. They\u2019re going to say that there\u2019s been undue influence. <\/line>The White House got hold of the justice department and threatened Fitzgerald. We know how this White House works, they\u2019re going to say. In fact, the case is being laid for that with this line in the New York Times, “Closing his investigation with no public disclosure of his findings, a choice that would set opposite a political firestorm.” BS. Wouldn\u2019t set off any sort of political firestorm. Let me tell you what would happen. Who wrote this? David Johnston and Richard Stevenson. Let me tell you people, Mr. Johnston and Mr. Stevenson, what\u2019s going to happen if there\u2019s no report and there\u2019s no indictments. Most of the people in this country are going to stand up and cheer. Most of the people are going to stand up and say nah-nah-nah-nah-nah and they\u2019re going to watch cable TV that night and say nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah. They\u2019re just going to be jumping for joy here, because any time the press is wrong and any time the press is disappointed, and any time the press is let down is a cause for celebration in this country among the majority of people. Political firestorm! I know what they\u2019re going to try to say. That\u2019s code words for, “If he doesn\u2019t issue a report, and if he doesn\u2019t indict anybody, and if it isn\u2019t Rove and if it isn\u2019t Cheney, we\u2019re going to raise hell about what compromised the integrity of this investigation.” That\u2019s what they\u2019re telling us. They\u2019re either going to get what they want, the press is going to get what they want out of this or they are going to raise hell and make somebody pay for it, Fitzgerald, somebody at the justice department, who knows where. But the purpose of this investigation is to determine what happened, not necessarily indict somebody. It\u2019s that plain and simple. Here\u2019s a Matt in Lubbock, Texas. Matt, welcome to the Rush Limbaugh program. It\u2019s great to have you with us.<\/line>CALLER: Thank you, sir. Mega west Texas dittos to you.<\/line>RUSH: Thank you.<\/line>CALLER: I don\u2019t know if you noticed or not in that final Chris Matthews bite you played, he\u2019s going on about indicting Cheney and Cheney is going to have to resign, and the slip of the tongue he mentioned the name “Bill.” I mean, President Bush is going to be running this town all by himself — and, you know, you have to assume that the name he had in mind was Bill Clinton.<\/line>RUSH: I heard it. I didn\u2019t know who he meant, but you actually think that Matthews is so far gone that he thinks if Cheney and Rove are indicted and in jail, maybe get the death penalty, that Bill Clinton will be running the country? Do you think that\u2019s what he thinks?<\/line>CALLER: I think it\u2019s just another prime example of him living in the past along with the rest of his —<\/line>RUSH: Well, let\u2019s listen to it again. As far off as my buddy Chris has gotten on this, I mean it could well be that they\u2019re thinking that this would put Clinton back in the White House. Here\u2019s the bite again. We can all figure it out ourselves.<\/line>MATTHEWS: It\u2019s not just about a leak case. There\u2019s lots of leaks in this town. It\u2019s not even about a set of felonies. It\u2019s about the relationship between the president of the United States and the vice president of the United States which has been probably the strongest political relationship we\u2019ve ever seen in this town. They are so connected at the hip, and if this dislodges that connection, that\u2019s going to be big news because now Bill — George W. Bush will be running this country completely on his own the next couple months. It\u2019s going to be very interesting.<\/line>RUSH: All right, did you hear him say Bill Clinton, or just Bill? Because now Bill will be running? What other Bill is there in somebody\u2019s mind like Matthews? Well, you are talking indictments. That could be one link to Clinton but he obviously couldn\u2019t be talking about Bill Cosby. What other Bill is there that he could possibly be thinking of? The guy is right, has to be Bill Clinton. Here\u2019s Mike in Albany. Mike, you\u2019re next. Take us into the next commercial break. Welcome, sir, how are you?<\/line>CALLER: Very good. Your premature ejaculation metaphor was fantastic. I can tell you my New York Times is ruined, but what\u2019s worse than premature ejaculation is —<\/line>RUSH: Hey, Mike, do me a favor: slow down just a little bit. I\u2019m having trouble hearing you. I heard premature ejaculation but not much else and I want to make sure you\u2019re on topic here. Slow down a little bit so I can understand what you\u2019re saying.<\/line>CALLER: I\u2019m telling you, I\u2019m a liberal, so my New York Times is ruined from that. But what\u2019s worse than premature ejaculation —<\/line>RUSH: Oh, oh. Wait a minute. So I was right, your Times is in the way, you were reading it and you had your premature ejaculation; that\u2019s why the Times has been ruined. Okay, I get it now.<\/line>CALLER: I am giddy at the press coverage of this. Now, what\u2019s worse than premature ejaculation, though, is contraception that fails — and I think you\u2019re about to find that out when all these indictments are handed up. I want to bet you, I\u2019ll buy you, I\u2019ll go up to Canada and I\u2019ll get your favorite Cuban cigar, whatever it is, and I\u2019ll buy it for you. If I\u2019m right and there are indictments — if I\u2019m wrong, I mean, and there are none. If I\u2019m right, I want you to run my fantasy football team for me.<\/line>RUSH: Okay, if I\u2019m right I want you to run my fantasy football team for me? I don\u2019t smoke Cuban cigars. You\u2019ll have to get some from the Dominican Republic: &lt;a target=new href=”http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;safe=off&amp;c2coff=1&amp;rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-26%2CGGLG%3Aen&amp;q=La+Flor+Dominicana+Chisel+%2F+Double+Ligero&amp;btnG=Search”>La Flor Dominicana Chisel \/ Double Ligero&lt;\/a>, my favorite cigar. It\u2019s an absolutely fabulous cigar, rolled especially for me in this size. You people can\u2019t get them in the size I have them.<\/line>CALLER: I\u2019m sorry we can\u2019t make that work, but I\u2019m telling you, this is exciting because we\u2019ve all said this is a criminal gang running the White House for so long. Now we\u2019re going to see it — it\u2019s John Ashcroft that appointed this prosecutor. It\u2019s a Republican prosecutor, and it\u2019s time that they reap what they\u2019ve sown.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: All right, I understand where you\u2019re coming from. This is a criminal bunch in the White House. They\u2019ve been running a criminal operation here since day one and you\u2019ve been trying to nail them all this time and now you finally got them with an Ashcroft-appointed prosecutor. What\u2019s the bet?<\/line>CALLER: Whatever you want. <\/line>RUSH: No, you tell me.<\/line>CALLER: I could have afforded a cigar for you, but —<\/line>RUSH: No, I\u2019m not talking about the stakes, what\u2019s the bet? What are you telling me is going to happen?<\/line>CALLER: Oh, that there will be indictments.<\/line>RUSH: Who?<\/line>CALLER: –there will be at least five indictments from this.<\/line>RUSH: Okay, who?<\/line>CALLER: I\u2019ll go with the easy ones first, Scooter Libby, Karl Rove. Let\u2019s see, Mary Matalin. I\u2019m going to go out on a limb and say John Bolton, and–<\/line>RUSH: (Laughing.) Matalin and John Bolton are going to be indicted along with Scooter Libby, Karl Rove, and Dick Cheney?<\/line>CALLER: The White House Iraq group.<\/line>RUSH: The White House Iraq group. So you agree with Matthews. This investigation is all about the lies that led us into Iraq?<\/line>CALLER: No, I think Matthews is a complete moron. I think he\u2019s a complete idiot and I don\u2019t think he\u2019s very honest, either, because —<\/line>RUSH: Be very careful here because you sound just like him.<\/line>CALLER: I\u2019m sorry?<\/line>RUSH: You\u2019ve got to be very careful here, Mike, because you sound just like him.<\/line>CALLER: Well, I\u2019m sorry, but he\u2019s a participant in this. He got a call from the White House, and he sits there hosting his show like he was never a part of this. He got a call from the White House. He\u2019s involved. He\u2019s as involved as Judith Miller was, and he pretends he doesn\u2019t know anything that\u2019s going on. You know what? He\u2019s got a whole lot more information than he\u2019s sharing with his viewers and to me that\u2019s just a breach of all sorts of journalism ethics.<\/line>RUSH: I\u2019ll tell you what: If he\u2019s holding back, I\u2019d like to know what he\u2019s holding back. What about Condoleezza Rice? Do you think Condoleezza Rice is going to be indicted? What are the odds of her being indicted and Karen Hughes, maybe, and, look, Colin Powell. He delivered the lies at the UN — and of course Bush made Colin Powell lie, and then you\u2019ve got Rumsfeld who is a criminal. I mean, where do these indictments stop?<\/line>CALLER: Well, you heard what Colin Powell said about that. He said that was the low point of his career and —<\/line>RUSH: Doesn\u2019t matter. You go rob the bank and say I hate doing it, it doesn\u2019t get you off the hook.<\/line>CALLER: I don\u2019t think Colin Powell lied–<\/line>RUSH: — he lied about weapons of mass destruction, he lied not just to America, he lied to the UN. You don\u2019t lie to the UN.<\/line>CALLER: But he didn\u2019t lie to the grand jury.<\/line>RUSH: You don\u2019t lie to the UN, and he lied to the French. How dare you lie to the French! So he\u2019s not off the hook just because he apologized for it and said it was a bad thing.<\/line>CALLER: He did not lie to the grand jury. He was never under oath when he made all those — I\u2019m going to give him the benefit of the doubt, because I really love Colin Powell.<\/line>RUSH: What does that have to do with anything? You don\u2019t have to go to the grand jury. I mean, if we\u2019re going to criminalize the Iraq war, and that\u2019s what this is all about, where do you draw the line? Anyway, I tell you, I\u2019ll just keep your call in mind. I\u2019m not going to engage the bet, because having listening to you speak, your fantasy football team may not be worth activating much less running, if you use as much judgment picking your players as you\u2019re doing in predicting these indictments. I\u2019m glad you called. It\u2019s great to hear from you, as always, love hearing from our friends on the left out there. <\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line>RUSH: Ladies and gentlemen, do we all remember when Hillary Clinton testified before a grand jury, the famous “Can\u2019t recall. I don\u2019t remember. My brain is Jell-O.” How many stories were there then about Hillary Clinton under investigation, what she would do if she were indicted? Anybody remember Matthews losing his cookies over what might happen if Hillary Clinton were indicted, what it might mean to Bill Clinton? How about stories when Bill Clinton was under investigation? I don\u2019t recall all these rumors about indictments and what these two would do. Instead, I recall story after story about how they shouldn\u2019t be indicted, about how this was a witch hunt investigation, about how Ken Starr was a pervert, a sex voyeur, remember that? All the attention was turned on the prosecutor, they were destroying the prosecutor, trying to destroy Ken Starr. No rumors about the pitfalls awaiting the Clintons. No suggestions that simply because they were simply appearing before a grand jury that they were guilty of anything, but look it, Rove, Libby, Cheney, Mary Matalin, thrown into the indictment list? But let me follow the media\u2019s lead here. Let me ask this question. There\u2019s a suit in California, the allegations, a lawsuit, the allegations include Hillary Clinton\u2019s alleged knowledge of illegal campaign contributions to her Senate campaign. <\/line> Now, I\u2019ve not talked about this case because we don\u2019t know what the end result is going to be. We have no way of knowing what is or is not accurate, what the outcome of this case is going to be. We\u2019re not dealing with innuendo. I could easily sit here and do what these guys are doing and say, “You know, she had to know, she had to know, she\u2019s as guilty as anybody. She probably directed the whole thing, she directed those funds be embezzled and redirected. Hillary Clinton knew, it was her campaign, she needed the money!” I could do a Chris Matthews here every day and we could outfit her for those orange jumpsuits today, and we could do just what they\u2019re doing, and, you know what the stories would be? “Limbaugh irresponsibly again today put Hillary Clinton in jail when he can\u2019t possibly know what\u2019s happening to the outcome of her trial.” What should Hillary Clinton do in this case if the evidence shows that she had knowledge about this? Should she resign, should she not run for president, what if it comes out that Hillary Clinton knows exactly what she did and that she\u2019s guilty, hmm? You know, the bias, the double-edged sword, the clear agenda of these people in the partisan media is just unavoidable now. I could illustrate by being absurd, as I just did with this whole Hillary Clinton example, how over the top they\u2019ve all gotten.<\/line>END TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n

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RUSH: New York Times today is reporting: No Final Report Seen in Inquiry on C.I.A. Leak. 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